Electricity question. 550-600V's?

[jsbush]

I'm buying a few tools for a wood working shop I'm setting up, and a lot of the tools such as air compressors are advertised as 550v's or 600v's.

Is it possible to get a high voltage like that in a residential area? Or does it require changing your panel and your current entrance?

 

[iamwiz82]

Example?

I've never seen a home compressor over 230V, but I am sure there are some 480s out there for industrial use.

 

[orakle]

I don't know if it's possible to get that kind of potential difference at your house. We've got a 550V milling machine in the shop at school - it runs on three phase power and we're still waiting for the electricians to run a proper line for it from the panel / electrical room. The thing doesn't even have a plug, you gotta hard-wire it in.

 

[olds]

Post a link to one of the products. I think you are misreading something.

 

[Eli]

Uhhh...

Either you are looking at some very large and very expensive equipment, or something is amiss.

Edit: And no, you aren't going to be able to get 600V, 3 phase power in a residential area...

 

[jupiter57]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Post a link to one of the products. I think you are misreading something.

Yeah, seems you may be seeing the cord "ratings". Even common household Romex is rated at 600 Volts, as are most wires for commercial use also.
There really are no such 550-600 volt circuits (That I am aware of).

 

[Evadman]

3 phase is not coming to your house. Unless you live behind a comercial area, and then you may be able to do soemthing. In the iddle of suberbia it ain't happening. Like oldsmoboat said, you are miss-reading smething. Or you are crazy. What do you need a 100 hp electroic compressor for? Trying to levitate your house?

 

[Fineghal]

There are a couple different websites one being
http://www.rotaryphaseconverters.com

You looking at an expensive investment. Are you sure your equipt can't run on 2 phase? And any idea how many Watts you're going to need?

http://www.phaseconverter.com/

And according to that a 100hp converter is going to run you aprox. 4500.

 

[engineereeyore]

Originally posted by: Eli
Uhhh...

Either you are looking at some very large and very expensive equipment, or something is amiss.

Edit: And no, you aren't going to be able to get 600V, 3 phase power in a residential area...

I believe he's correct. I don't think you can get more than 240V in a residential location.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Evadman
3 phase is not coming to your house. Unless you live behind a comercial area, and then you may be able to do soemthing. In the iddle of suberbia it ain't happening. Like oldsmoboat said, you are miss-reading smething. Or you are crazy. What do you need a 100 hp electroic compressor for? Trying to levitate your house?

:laugh::laugh:

:thumbsup:

Seriously. We're talking about the kind've power that a steel melting induction furnace would use.

What the hell kind've products are you looking at, mang? I wanna drool too.

But I think you need to reenter the Earth's atmosphere and look at some normal 240V tools. If you want commercial quality, you can get it.

 

[Fineghal]

Although if you have a death wish you can run your two-phase power through a Scott connection and then another transformer to step up the voltage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott-T_transformer

Or if you're feeling up to it you can tap in before your junction box and then do a step down + Scott. Just realize you can (along with killing yourself) blow the neighborhood transformer. And that's not very nice.

 

[mrrman]

220/230V is the most you will get from a residential area

 

[Rubycon]

We have a 450/550V (60Hz) system.

Most housing in the US is 240/120 1F power AFAIK.

You won't be able to run much more than a 7hp (true hp) induction motor on this power.

If you need more power you will need a generator or engine driven compressor.

Originally posted by: Eli

Seriously. We're talking about the kind've power that a steel melting induction furnace would use.

Most of those places use direct 13.8kV feed. Some of the shipyards have their own 345kV substation. :Q

 

[BrownTown]

Yes, I would question your need for 600V 3 phase power for a wood working shop. That is a common industrial voltage, but unless you are looking at an industry scale shop you are probably not gonna want to be that high. I mean, you *could* by a step up transformer and motor control equipment (power electronics AC->DC->pulsed AC) to get the correct voltages and waveforms, but thats gonna be thousands of dollars at least, and I don't even know if the lines you your house are even rated at the type of current a motor that large would draw.

 

[olds]

Tesla, is that you?

 

[DrPizza]

If it's a hot deal from some company going out of business, I'd pass on it (if it really is 550/600V equipment.)

 

[olds]

What happened to the OP, he get electrocuted?

 

[natto fire]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
What happened to the OP, he get electrocuted?

LOL, I wondered the same thing.

Maybe he figured out he was reading an incorrect spec and does not want to admit it?

OP: The only people that will attack you for making an honest mistake is the elitist 'tards that many(some, at this point?) here don't take seriously in the first place.

 

[FoBoT]

600V spiders?

 

[jsbush]

Thats what I thought. I'll get a 240v one. To bad, I found a nice 600V 80gallon 6hp compressor for 800$. sigh..

 

[jsbush]

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
What happened to the OP, he get electrocuted?

LOL, I wondered the same thing.

Maybe he figured out he was reading an incorrect spec and does not want to admit it?

OP: The only people that will attack you for making an honest mistake is the elitist 'tards that many(some, at this point?) here don't take seriously in the first place.

Not one bit. lol. Some of you answered my question, and the others did nothing but waste bandwidth.

 

[natto fire]

Originally posted by: jsbush

Originally posted by: Captain Howdy

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
What happened to the OP, he get electrocuted?

LOL, I wondered the same thing.

Maybe he figured out he was reading an incorrect spec and does not want to admit it?

OP: The only people that will attack you for making an honest mistake is the elitist 'tards that many(some, at this point?) here don't take seriously in the first place.

Not one bit. lol. Some of you answered my question, and the others did nothing but waste bandwidth.

Heh. I know that feeling all too well. Some of the car threads have me wanting to grate my eyeballs. Makes me wonder how someone can be so sure of themselves with little to no experience.
Sucks about finding great deals on equipment not suitable for residential power. Did you check with your utility company, BTW? I know my friend was able to get 3-phase 220 to his house, but he lived fairly close to an industrial park.

Good luck, either way.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: jsbush
Thats what I thought. I'll get a 240v one. To bad, I found a nice 600V 80gallon 6hp compressor for 800$. sigh..

Yea you can get some great tools for cheap if you can get a 3phase power system. Most 3phase tools go for little at a auction as most can't get 3phase power. So all the 120/240volts tools go high even though they are not as strong or big.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Evadman
3 phase is not coming to your house. Unless you live behind a comercial area, and then you may be able to do soemthing. In the iddle of suberbia it ain't happening. Like oldsmoboat said, you are miss-reading smething. Or you are crazy. What do you need a 100 hp electroic compressor for? Trying to levitate your house?

not true. if you ask your power company and give a good reason as well as pay more, they usually will bring another leg to your panel. but, youd have to have your service panel upgraded to a 480v rated distro, as well as breakers added in to support whatever device you were trying to put in there. 480v 600A devices arent very fun to play with, they dont shock... they explode. i have a friend that bought a house in scottsdale, his house still has 3 phase coming in, a rarity for most neighborhoods, and a leftover from before the power co. ripped out the neighbors third leg years before.

as for the OP, he probably wants a 220V compressor, canrt see ever needing more than that. heck, a good 110v compressor can maintain 120psi for a very long time with a good sized tank.