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Rhezuss

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Big decision but i'm gonna delete and reroll my Templar tonight. I'm in no hurry to level to 50 and do endgame content and i'm still learning and tremendously enjoying the game so far. Let's say this character was the learning one and since I settled to the Templar (very fun to play, better than the DK for me) i'll just reroll a new one and do it right.

And having your bank account bound is so much cool, love this idea.
 

Clemenza

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Im terrible in these games when it comes to altidis. Now this game with 4 classes but like a million ways to build each class has me going in all directions :D

We should form a support group. All last night as I was leveling my NB I kept thinking about leveling a DK. I'm like that dog from "Up." "Man this class is fun, I really like it." Then I see someone do something shiny and cool and I'm, "oh man that looks cool. I want to do that! Squirrel!"
 

HumblePie

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Big decision but i'm gonna delete and reroll my Templar tonight. I'm in no hurry to level to 50 and do endgame content and i'm still learning and tremendously enjoying the game so far. Let's say this character was the learning one and since I settled to the Templar (very fun to play, better than the DK for me) i'll just reroll a new one and do it right.

And having your bank account bound is so much cool, love this idea.

Just make sure that you clean out the inventory of the character you are going to delete. Preferably make the new character first, then transfer all the gear from the character you are deleting to the new one.

Another cool thing about this game is that bound items are account bound, not character bound. So if your main out levels an item, you can toss it in the bank and an alt can use it when it reaches the appropriate level.
 

Rhezuss

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Just make sure that you clean out the inventory of the character you are going to delete. Preferably make the new character first, then transfer all the gear from the character you are deleting to the new one.

Another cool thing about this game is that bound items are account bound, not character bound. So if your main out levels an item, you can toss it in the bank and an alt can use it when it reaches the appropriate level.

Yeah that is a clever idea and I approve this :p
Thanks for the advice, i'll make sure to clean the toon before sending him to oblivion...
 

dougp

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I'm enjoying my Templar, but I went bow/wood elf ... wondering if I should switch it to melee Templar for DPS.
 

Tequila

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I'm enjoying my Templar, but I went bow/wood elf ... wondering if I should switch it to melee Templar for DPS.

You can mix the use the templar skills from Aedric Spear and Dawn's Wrath with your weapon. In fact during solo dps with my 2h I only use one 2h skill now which is stampede. I do this rotation on 3-4 mobs: reflective light -> stampede -> solar barrage -> biting jabs -> radial sweep -> repeat solar barrage -> biting jabs on harder mobs. Then when the mobs are dead I hit repentence which uses the corpses to heal and regen my stamina then I move on to the next batch while I'm doing my quests. Hit 27 with only very casual play.

My 2nd bar is resto staff with all the heals I need for tougher fights and grouping.

This is an approximation of my current build http://esohead.com/calculator/skill...x0l8zo7zzvbho8zu7zMHfYE6MHfZd8zL7McK4EX6zK4PZ
 
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JamesV

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this^

Plus that site is the owner of the only add-on I use called FTC. It adds what IMHO the game should have in the first place which is floating damage numbers. It also shows what hots you have and how long till they expire and same for any debuffs from an enemy.

When I'm in a group healing it's really nice to have.

You should check out 'LootDrop' addon also. If you have autoloot on like I do, it shows what you looted in the bottom right corner of the screen. Another thing that should have been in the game.
 

dougp

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You can mix the use the templar skills from Aedric Spear and Dawn's Wrath with your weapon. In fact during solo dps with my 2h I only use one 2h skill now which is stampede. I do this rotation on 3-4 mobs: reflective light -> stampede -> solar barrage -> biting jabs -> radial sweep -> repeat solar barrage -> biting jabs on harder mobs. Then when the mobs are dead I hit repentence which uses the corpses to heal and regen my stamina then I move on to the next batch while I'm doing my quests. Hit 27 with only very casual play.

My 2nd bar is resto staff with all the heals I need for tougher fights and grouping.

This is an approximation of my current build http://esohead.com/calculator/skill...x0l8zo7zzvbho8zu7zMHfYE6MHfZd8zL7McK4EX6zK4PZ

What skills heal you on the resto staff?
 

Tequila

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Oct 24, 1999
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What skills heal you on the resto staff?

Mutagen and Healing Springs are from resto staff. Very important and magicka efficient hots. And the very crucial 10% magicka you get back from the last tick of a heavy attack with the resto staff.
 
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dougp

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Mutagen and Healing Springs are from resto staff. Very important and magicka efficient hots. And the very crucial 10% magicka you get back from the last tick of a heavy attack with the resto staff.

But for healing spells, if you don't have anyone selected, does it target you?
 

HumblePie

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Oct 30, 2000
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Yeah how doea healing work in this game? Does the healer have to keep you in his cursor?

Most of the healing is AOE areas or auto target lowest health secondary targets while healing the target under the cursor.

The problem with the AOE healing is that it makes a big red area on teh ground with gold glitter effect. It sort of looks like some giant enemy spell and quite often team mates run out of the effect.
 

Blintok

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I have a question about this game, how do you control your character?
Is it similar to games like, Wow-EQ1-EQ2-Lotro ..in that you can play and control
your character one handed? (i use a trackball) That will be a big deciding factor for me playing or not.
 

Legios

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There is some keyboard interaction needed, e, r, alt and shift keys will get a good workout default.
 

JamesV

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Big decision but i'm gonna delete and reroll my Templar tonight. I'm in no hurry to level to 50 and do endgame content and i'm still learning and tremendously enjoying the game so far. Let's say this character was the learning one and since I settled to the Templar (very fun to play, better than the DK for me) i'll just reroll a new one and do it right.

And having your bank account bound is so much cool, love this idea.

I wouldn't delete your character, if they are high enough level to get the 'hirelings' skills in crafting. Just log onto old characters, nab all the free mats (and possibly great mats), then play another character.

In the process of creating 7 crafting mules for the sole purpose of receiving free mats each day... but going slow since I mainly play my main.
 

American Gunner

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Quick question, I bought the discs since my internet isn't the fastest. Once I install, can I just give my discs to a friend so he can use them to install and then just buy a code online to activate it?

Edit: Also, if me and a few friends wanted to run together, do we all have to be the same race?
 
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Cuular

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Quick question, I bought the discs since my internet isn't the fastest. Once I install, can I just give my discs to a friend so he can use them to install and then just buy a code online to activate it?

Edit: Also, if me and a few friends wanted to run together, do we all have to be the same race?

Not if you bought one of the deluxe versions that let you play any race on any faction. You just all choose the same faction and you will start out at the same place.
 

American Gunner

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How many updates are there already for this game? I installed all the discs and it's pulled what seems like 5-6 gbs of patches and updates.
 

KentState

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How many updates are there already for this game? I installed all the discs and it's pulled what seems like 5-6 gbs of patches and updates.

This seems to be typical of modern on-line games and it's only going to get larger. You would think that textures and sound files make up the majority of the install, but somehow we have these large patches.
 

Anteaus

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How many updates are there already for this game? I installed all the discs and it's pulled what seems like 5-6 gbs of patches and updates.

It's an MMO. Its common for the discs to be based on a earlier version of the game and require big patches at release.
 

KMFJD

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How many updates are there already for this game? I installed all the discs and it's pulled what seems like 5-6 gbs of patches and updates.

Your best bet is to install it, download all the updates and then copy the eso folder for your friend
 

Tequila

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Oct 24, 1999
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Most of the healing is AOE areas or auto target lowest health secondary targets while healing the target under the cursor.

The problem with the AOE healing is that it makes a big red area on teh ground with gold glitter effect. It sort of looks like some giant enemy spell and quite often team mates run out of the effect.
Honestly I don't have time to hover over any group mate anyway since I'm constantly using my resto staff to heavy attack the mobs to get magicka back.

From my experience I agree with what people say in this thread http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/can-anyone-explain-how-healing-works-in-regards-to-self-targeting/ which is that the target under cursor doesn't matter.

The heals that say "heals nearby for X, heals additional for Y" where X is the larger armount like Breath of Life heal the lowest hp member that is closest to you for X. This means if you are too far back from the tank and closer to the dps and the tank is low hp and one of the dps is even lower hp then the dps gets healed with X then the smaller Y portion goes to the tank. This is why I try to keep close to the tank when he's getting whacked hard.

The other heals like Healing Springs and Cleansing Ritutal heal all allies in the AOE circle. CLeansing Ritual is awesome because it glows yellow in a big radius and is very obvious not a red circle, so allies won't avoid it. Healing Springs is a little harder to notice and has a smaller area but has a nice side benefit of returning magicka for each person healed in its area but it is a short lived hot so you have to keep it up a lot.

Since all group dungeon fights have lots of enemy AOE effects going on the challenge for a healer is to position yourself so the big heals go to the right person while avoiding the AOE from the enemy. It makes for a hell of a good time.

Just did the 3rd dungeon Arx Corinium tonight with my guildies and we stomped that place pretty easy. Only had a whipe on the last boss. That place is absolutely gorgeous, it almost had a raid feeling to it.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
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Honestly I don't have time to hover over any group mate anyway since I'm constantly using my resto staff to heavy attack the mobs to get magicka back.

From my experience I agree with what people say in this thread http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/can-anyone-explain-how-healing-works-in-regards-to-self-targeting/ which is that the target under cursor doesn't matter.

The heals that say "heals nearby for X, heals additional for Y" where X is the larger armount like Breath of Life heal the lowest hp member that is closest to you for X. This means if you are too far back from the tank and closer to the dps and the tank is low hp and one of the dps is even lower hp then the dps gets healed with X then the smaller Y portion goes to the tank. This is why I try to keep close to the tank when he's getting whacked hard.

The other heals like Healing Springs and Cleansing Ritutal heal all allies in the AOE circle. CLeansing Ritual is awesome because it glows yellow in a big radius and is very obvious not a red circle, so allies won't avoid it. Healing Springs is a little harder to notice and has a smaller area but has a nice side benefit of returning magicka for each person healed in its area but it is a short lived hot so you have to keep it up a lot.

Since all group dungeon fights have lots of enemy AOE effects going on the challenge for a healer is to position yourself so the big heals go to the right person while avoiding the AOE from the enemy. It makes for a hell of a good time.

Just did the 3rd dungeon Arx Corinium tonight with my guildies and we stomped that place pretty easy. Only had a whipe on the last boss. That place is absolutely gorgeous, it almost had a raid feeling to it.

Yah, doing the level 20-23 dungeons is frankly mission impossible. The second optional boss is brutal for Elden Root. She herself isn't too difficult to damage, but she, like all the bosses there, has a big giant aoe attack that can do massive damage and 1 shot a squishie. On top of that she makes a "quicksand" pit constantly where 8 almost elite skeletons pop out of it. And she doesn't wait on summoning another pit until the previous 8 have all died. She summons them on a timer. So if your group can't kill those 8 skeletons in 60 seconds, she summons another 8. It gets brutal.

On top of that, if you are at the spot where the pit is summoned, you "sink" into the quick sand and are stunned during the duration of the summoning. Which is like 2.5 seconds. You also can't hit the skeletons during that time frame while the skeletons are coming out of the ground. The spot she summons is random. On top of that she is using spell ranged attacks that can pack a whallop too. So as the tank I'm stuck trying to keep her agro, stay out of her big aoe attack, stay out of the randomly placed instant stunning summoning pits, and try to help kill skeletons as fast as possible. All while making sure my healer is close enough to heal me when I start going down due to all the focus from my taunting and damage. As I said, absolutely brutal. We were all level 23-24 and in good gear too. Had the group with me as a sorc tank, 2 healer sorcs (that swapped to destruction staff for dps if needed or resto staff for healing), and a ranged nightblade pure dps setup. The bosses leading up to her were tough, but she was crazy. Completely overtuned for that dungeon and groups that would normally go into there.