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lupi

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
private service, then can offer it to whomever they wish

conventional economics suggests they are the ones losing out by restricting their client base, but thats their problem

why do people make a big deal out of this

DING DING DING

Nit necessarily. From what I remember about their ads they talk about some developed system to get compatible people together for lifelong bonds and such.

Whom says they are have an entire program just sitting in a drawer somewhere on how to get the right pair of swords to cross.

You can start from when you're born till you die and not put a dent on the amount of material to read about X Y relationships. Can you say the same about the others. R&D ain't so cheap, particularly when you are offering guarenties.
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: ricochet
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
How do you know they're wrong? Because it goes against what you BELIEVE? There is no scientific proof that homosexuality is biological. If it were wouldn't the Homogenus be bred out since gays can't reproduce with other gays?

Wanting to stick your dick in someones poop hole is a choice. By saying that gay is genetic, then why isn't pedophilia genetic? And if it's genetic then pederasses should go to jail for screwing little kids, hey it's genetic, they can't help it.

Do you even need a scientific proof to believe homosexuality is biological? Where do you think this "coming out of the closet" phenomenom come from? The social climate has been anti-gay in the vast majority of this country. You got to ask yourself why would anyone actually "choose" to be gay when it could negatively affect their jobs, relationships, and sometimes their life (ie hate crime)? Why do some gays come from predominantly heterosexual Christian family? Why would they "come out of the closet" when they have been raised all their life to believe that homosexuality is wrong and immoral?

It's true that gays can't reproduce with other gays, but can you accept that heterosexuals are the ones carrying the genes? What scientists have found out is that in any large population or society there will be a subset population of gays. This is true in humans as well as other mammals. You can choose to ignore statistics all you want, but that is reality.

Wanting to stick your dick in a poop hole or a vagina is NOT a choice. The desire to do so is NOT a choice. The act of sticking your dick in a poop hole or vagina, however, IS a choice. Learn to distinguish the two.

Don't compare homosexuals to pedophiles. Sexual relationship between consenting adults is different than the sexual dynamics between an adult and a child. The law specifically spelled out the age of consent to prevent abuse. There is a good argument that pedophilia is genetic as well. Irregardless, choosing to do something illegal should result them going to jail.

I can see it being somewhat genetic... It is said that pedophiles who are attracted to little boys are attracted by the same characteristics that distinguish a female from a male that cause a normal male to be attracted to a woman: slender build, fragile, smooth complexion, softer higher voice, etc. It would make sense that something like a CRC error in the genetic code or something could throw that off just enough to mark the difference.

Just a thought, 'people' problems aren't my area, I prefer to stay with concrete sciences.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
I'm sorry to tell you, but comparing homosexuals to blacks, Asians and people with disabilities is just plain stupid. Gays ARE NOT a different nationality, a minority or a different race.

All this 'protection' for the gay community...give me a ****** break. You make a choice to be a rug muncher or a noodle nuzzler and all of a sudden you want minority status. No one offers minority status for white guys who decide to be with a black woman or an asian woman who decides to be with a black guy or a European guy who decides to be with a latino woman. The race, gender, creed, et al of the person you decide to engage is sexual activity SHOULD NOT entitle you to 'minority' or 'protected' status.

Well, just like being a minority, sexual orientation cannot be a reason for not getting a job... well, I believe unless the orientation conflicts with something about the job and not someone's opinion :p.

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Where is my lawn chair and my robe......

No idea, but here's your wizard hat!

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
mmorpgs

Hey, you would too if you saw them Night Elves dance :eek:.
 

Ricochet

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The lawsuit is erroneous. Private businesses should be allowed to discriminate and have done so to attract their target demographic. If they don't want your business, why would you actively seek to give them business?

I fully expect Hooters to hire big breasted young women instead of old hags. Is that discrimination? Of course it is, but that is what's needed to attract a certain clientelle.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: lupi

Oh, so sorry. Votre tentative est incorrecte. The correct answer for final Jeopardy was natural instinct.


I'm placing my money on a gestational anomaly. Homosexuality does not run in families, does not follow cultures, and has remained a fairly constant percentage since recorded history. I know gays don't like being thought of as a "birth defect," but it's the only logical answer.

And what if you found the same sex attractive, and the opposite sex repulsive? Wouldn't that be natural for YOU? Of course it would.

A person cannot choose who they are attracted to.

I'm not saying you're wrong, afterall we do see children born with both sets or organs that did not properly develop into a particular set. And what set you have generally controls what chemicals your body produces and how you react to the chemicals of other bodies.
All of that is the "usual course" and as e idence shows not 100% an accurate occurence.

But that still doesn't create some new class of people that need a separate rule book.



Besides, dating a lesbian can be fun. Even if she doesn't put out that much, the stories alone are almost worth the price of admission.
 

GoPackGo

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Can I sue a vegetarian restaurant for not serving meat?

Isn't the "Senior Citizen" discount discrimination?
 

exdeath

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When is the last time a straight person threatened to sue a gay bar for discrimination?

Gay bars are not tailored to straight people and straight people don't go to gay bars. Nobody has a problem with that, but damn it all if we have a straight bar that doesn't bend over backwards to provide services to gays. And would gays even go to such a straight bar, or would they just 'feel good' for winning a false sense of victory fighting the fight for absolutely no reason other than to be politically correct?
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Hey, you would too if you saw them Night Elves dance :eek:.

OMFG night elf chicks are downright pornographic when they dance! And the night elf guys dancing know how to get down with their bad self; by comparison the human male dance is akin to a white southerner trying to rap.

Night elves are definitely the smoothest dancers by far.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: ricochet
The lawsuit is erroneous. Private businesses should be allowed to discriminate and have done so to attract their target demographic. If they don't want your business, why would you actively seek to give them business?

I fully expect Hooters to hire big breasted young women instead of old hags. Is that discrimination? Of course it is, but that is what's needed to attract a certain clientelle.

As I recall some schmuck did sue Hooters a couple years ago for not hiring him as a waiter. That one got flushed out of the system pretty quick as I imagine this one will.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: exdeath
When is the last time a straight person threatened to sue a gay bar for discrimination?

Gay bars are not tailored to straight people and straight people don't go to gay bars. Nobody has a problem with that, but damn it all if we have a straight bar that doesn't bend over backwards to provide services to gays. And would gays even go to such a straight bar, or would they just 'feel good' for winning a false sense of victory fighting the fight for absolutely no reason other than to be politically correct?

There's nothing stopping straight people from going to a gay bar. Straight women go to them to avoid being hit on.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Hey, you would too if you saw them Night Elves dance :eek:.

OMFG night elf chicks are downright pornographic when they dance! And the night elf guys dancing know how to get down with their bad self; by comparison the human male dance is akin to a white southerner trying to rap.

Bah! All we need now is someone to link that stupid "got caught" video.
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: exdeath
When is the last time a straight person threatened to sue a gay bar for discrimination?

Gay bars are not tailored to straight people and straight people don't go to gay bars. Nobody has a problem with that, but damn it all if we have a straight bar that doesn't bend over backwards to provide services to gays. And would gays even go to such a straight bar, or would they just 'feel good' for winning a false sense of victory fighting the fight for absolutely no reason other than to be politically correct?

There's nothing stopping straight people from going to a gay bar. Straight women go to them to avoid being hit on.

There is nothing to stop a gay person from registering on a straight web sites. Just don't expect any more matches than the straight person should expect going to a gay bar.

The difference is, the straight person knows this, and doesn't go to gay bars.

This 'catering' ****** needs to stop.
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Hey, you would too if you saw them Night Elves dance :eek:.

OMFG night elf chicks are downright pornographic when they dance! And the night elf guys dancing know how to get down with their bad self; by comparison the human male dance is akin to a white southerner trying to rap.

Bah! All we need now is someone to link that stupid "got caught" video.

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Cutterhead

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Originally posted by: sourceninja
To finish my rant, the biggest question to ask is this. How does this hurt the gay community? The answer, it doesn't. In fact, it looks like the perfect buisness opportunity. Instead of suing, the guy should of gotten off his ass and made a website.

gayHarmony?

Seriously though, your comments are right on, Sourceninja.
 

Platypus

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Actually this does hurt the gay community, it sets us back years when dbags like this make a complete ****** mockery of the legal system in the name of gay rights; something that doesn't even apply here.
 

Chadder007

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Not justified. Its a private company, they can sell service to whomever they want. Thats like a guy going into a womens clothes store and getting mad and suing them for not having a manly flannel shirt.
 

Cutterhead

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Originally posted by: Platypus
Actually this does hurt the gay community, it sets us back years when dbags like this make a complete ****** mockery of the legal system in the name of gay rights; something that doesn't even apply here.

Good point, the lawsuit could be harmful to the gay community, but eHarmony certainly isn't. Similar to the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, in the name of black rights, doing more IMO to hold back their communities than advance them... but that's a whole different story.
 

Platypus

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Originally posted by: Cutterhead
Originally posted by: Platypus
Actually this does hurt the gay community, it sets us back years when dbags like this make a complete ****** mockery of the legal system in the name of gay rights; something that doesn't even apply here.

Good point, the lawsuit could be harmful to the gay community, but eHarmony certainly isn't. Similar to the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, in the name of black rights, doing more IMO to hold back their communities than advance them... but that's a whole different story.

Yep
 

bluestrobe

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Originally posted by: Cutterhead
Originally posted by: Platypus
Actually this does hurt the gay community, it sets us back years when dbags like this make a complete ****** mockery of the legal system in the name of gay rights; something that doesn't even apply here.

Good point, the lawsuit could be harmful to the gay community, but eHarmony certainly isn't. Similar to the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, in the name of black rights, doing more IMO to hold back their communities than advance them... but that's a whole different story.



+1
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Discrimination is discrimination. It's exactly the same as refusing service to blacks, Asians, or people with disabilities.

What about the gay-only hotel? Is that considered discrimination??


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070528/ts_afp/lifestyleaustraliagayentry to heterosexuals and lesbians[/b], officials and the owner said Monday.
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The Peel Hotel in Melbourne won an exemption from the Equal Opportunity Act to prevent insults and abuse directed toward gays in its bars and nightclubs, owner Tom McFeely told AFP.

"The hotel predominantly markets itself towards homosexual males, towards gay men and we want to protect the integrity of the venue as well as continue to make the men feel comfortable," McFeely said.

"When large numbers of heterosexuals or even lesbians are in the hotel that changes the atmosphere and many gay men can feel uncomfortable."

The landmark decision by a civil tribunal gives the establishment -- which does not offer accommodation -- the right to refuse entry to people considered a threat to the safety and comfort of its patrons.

Helen Szoke, the chief executive of the Victoria state government's Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission, said the Peel Hotel's gay clientele had experienced harassment, hostility and violence.

"(They) also have felt as though they've been like a zoo exhibit with big groups of women on hens' parties coming to the club," she said.

McFeely said his aim was not to ban all straight patrons and lesbians but to limit their numbers so gay men could freely express their sexuality.

He said he expected a backlash from other patrons, but added: "I'm not worried about it because to be frank I don't really care what heterosexuals or lesbians think.

"My main motivation is to protect my gay male customers and I realise heterosexuals and lesbians may be upset. but I don't care about that.


"We are open at 8.00pm and we go all the way through till the morning. We have two dancefloors -- it is a nightclub environment."

McFeely said it would be easy to sort out desirable gays from undesirable straights and lesbians.

"It is particularly easy to implement with the females 'cause that is pretty obvious.

"With the heterosexual males, if they identify themselves as that at the door, or indeed we question their behaviour in the venue and if they come across as being heterosexual, then we will simply ask them to leave if the behaviour is unappropriate."

Human rights group Liberty Victoria supported the decision, vice-president Michael Pearce said.

"There are numerous places where heterosexual people can go," he said.

"I think what (the tribunal) has said is that there aren't that many places where gay people can go and meet without the risk of being harassed or vilified, and that they are entitled to have their own spaces to do that in.



Eh?

This was probably done just to drum up publicity.
Nobody I know actually supports this.


Regardless, they have a LEGAL binding. Meaning it's against the law for a heterosexual male or lesbian to enter the hotel.


Do you think the same allowance would be set for a white supremacist restaruant owner??


Bizarre.

 

spamsk8r

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
It's not about what you do, it's about why. Sex is always a choice.
Why do you have sex with females?

Because they're curvy, smooth to touch, smell good, and have soft squishy parts in all the right places. :p

- M4H

In other words, because you find females attractive. It's no more complicated and just as simple as that.

Do you think you should receive minority status because of the type of people you are attracted to?

No, we would just like the rights already accorded to the majority.

You already have the same rights that the rest of us have. You can marry a woman, I can marry a woman. You can't marry a man, neither can I.

You just disagree with the choices presented. There's a big difference there. If an ice cream parlor only offers vanilla or chocolate, but I want strawberry, should I start a fuss that they are denying me my rights to have strawberry ice cream?
 

wetcat007

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: purbeast0
OMG THE CLUB I WENT TO LAST WEEKEND CHARGED ME $5 TO GET IN BECAUSE I HAVE A PENIS AND ONLY $2 FOR MY GIRL TO GET IN BECAUSE SHE'S A GIRL!!

I THINK IM GOING TO SUUUUEEEEEE!!!!!!!111!!!!!

Think it hasn't happened?

lol, I think most guys realize even though they end up paying more, it's for their own good, more girls in the club is a good thing...
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Discrimination is discrimination. It's exactly the same as refusing service to blacks, Asians, or people with disabilities.

I'm sorry to tell you, but comparing homosexuals to blacks, Asians and people with disabilities is just plain stupid. Gays ARE NOT a different nationality, a minority or a different race.

All this 'protection' for the gay community...give me a ****** break. You make a choice to be a rug muncher or a noodle nuzzler and all of a sudden you want minority status. No one offers minority status for white guys who decide to be with a black woman or an asian woman who decides to be with a black guy or a European guy who decides to be with a latino woman. The race, gender, creed, et al of the person you decide to engage is sexual activity SHOULD NOT entitle you to 'minority' or 'protected' status.

Realizing, of course, that gays are persecuted much in the same manner as minority races, sexes, etc. I don't know where you get the idea that gays made some choice in being a "noodle nuzzler" or a "rug muncher." Can you make that same decision? If I asked you to be a "noodle nuzzler" tomorrow, could you?