Egypt floods Gaza tunnels to cut Palestinian lifeline

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JEDIYoda

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http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-floods-...N0A2NvbnRyb2xfaXB0Y19zaG9ydF9yZWxhdGVk;_ylv=3

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In my opinion this is a very serious for the Palestinians!

If Israel had flooded the tunnels all the anti-Israeli people on these forums would have been up in arms.

So tell me where is the outcry against the Egytians???

Inquiring minds want to know......


GAZA (Reuters) - Egyptian forces have flooded smuggling tunnels under the border with the Palestinian-ruled Gaza Strip in a campaign to shut them down, Egyptian and Palestinian officials said.

The network of tunnels is a vital lifeline for Gaza, bringing in an estimated 30 percent of all goods that reach the enclave and circumventing a blockade imposed by Israel for more than seven years.

Reuters reporters saw one tunnel being used to bring in cement and gravel suddenly fill with water on Sunday, sending workers rushing for safety. Locals said two other tunnels were likewise flooded, with Egyptians deliberately pumping in water.

"The Egyptians have opened the water to drown the tunnels," said Abu Ghassan, who supervises the work of 30 men at one tunnel some 200 meters (yards) from the border fence.

An Egyptian security official in the Sinai told Reuters the campaign started five days ago.

"We are using water to close the tunnels by raising water from one of the wells," he said, declining to be named.

Dozens of tunnels had been destroyed since last August following the killing of 16 Egyptian soldiers in a militant attack near the Gaza fence.

Cairo said some of the gunmen had crossed into Egypt via the tunnels - a charge denied by Palestinians - and ordered an immediate crackdown.

The move surprised and angered Gaza's rulers, the Islamist group Hamas, which had hoped for much better ties with Cairo following the election last year of Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi, an Islamist who is ideologically close to Hamas.

A Hamas official confirmed Egypt was again targeting the tunnels. He gave no further details and declined to speculate on the timing of the move, which started while Palestinian faction leaders met in Cairo to try to overcome deep divisions.

CRITICISING CAIRO

Hamas said on Monday the Egyptian-brokered talks, aimed at forging a unity government and healing the schism between politicians in Gaza and the occupied West Bank, had gone badly but had not collapsed.

While Gaza's rulers have been reluctant to criticize Mursi in public, ordinary Gazans are slightly more vocal.

"Egyptian measures against tunnels have worsened since the election of Mursi. Our Hamas brothers thought he would open up Gaza. I guess they were wrong," said a tunnel owner, who identified himself only as Ayed, fearing reprisal.

"Perhaps 150 or 200 tunnels have been shut since the Sinai attack. This is the Mursi era," he added.

The tunnellers fear the water being pumped underground might collapse the passage ways, with possible disastrous consequences.

"Water can cause cracks in the wall and may cause the collapse of the tunnel. It may kill people," said Ahmed Al-Shaer, a tunnel worker whose cousin died a year ago when a tunnel caved in on him.

Six Palestinians died in January in tunnel implosions, raising the death toll amongst workers to 233 since 2007, according to Gazan human rights groups, including an estimated 20 who died in various Israeli air attacks on the border lands.

Israel imposed its blockade for what it called security reasons in 2007. The United Nations has appealed for it to be lifted.

At one stage an estimated 2,500-3,000 tunnels snaked their way under the desert fence but the network has shrunk markedly since 2010, when Israel eased some of the limits they imposed on imports into the coastal enclave.

All goods still have to be screened before entering Gaza and Israel says some restrictions must remain on items that could be used to make or to store weapons.

This ensures the tunnels are still active, particularly to bring in building materials. Hamas also prefers using the tunnels to smuggle in fuel, thereby avoiding custom dues that are payable on oil crossing via Israel.
 
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Charles Kozierok

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I'm not sure this is really anything new. I believe the Egyptians have been trying to block those tunnels on an ongoing basis for years.
 

Jaskalas

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I'm not sure this is really anything new. I believe the Egyptians have been trying to block those tunnels on an ongoing basis for years.

I question why the Egyptians want those tunnels blocked. Surely the Muslim Brotherhood could care less about appeasing Israel.. right? :confused:

If anything they should be opening their border and assisting their fellow man. Is a humanitarian mission beyond them?
 

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I question why the Egyptians want those tunnels blocked.
because they violate international law, they aren't getting customs duties paid, smuggling generates crime and insecurity in a country that already has enough problems.

I don't believe that all the people who are in the decision and action chain are dead set on a international mission to support Hamas, I think most of them just want to do their job or their interests and that's why the tunnels were flooded. The smuggling violates international and egyptian law, regardless of the reason. There's stuff other than ideology in the whole complex machine that makes up the state. After all, with the revolution they changed president but I don't think they fired all public workers, so the old systems are still there. And most people just don't care. That's my take, this action was not political.
 

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I question why the Egyptians want those tunnels blocked. Surely the Muslim Brotherhood could care less about appeasing Israel.. right? :confused:

If anything they should be opening their border and assisting their fellow man. Is a humanitarian mission beyond them?

Why not just open the border gates themselves then.

The tunnel flooding was in retaliation for the attacks previously on Egyptian security forces.

A lesson that the Palestinians had to know who was in charge of the border.
 

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It just seems like there's an onus on Israel to resolve the situation when I see an opportunity for other Palestinian neighbors to chip in and help. I think it goes back to the blockade and flotillas attempting to breach it. All that nonsense when there's a border with Egypt that could be opened.

One should not cite international law as reason for a people to suffer.

If the argument is that this is in response to Palestinian violence, well then that is interesting for I'm certain Israel would cite the same reason. Then there is condemnation against Israel for creating the situation - when in retrospect there is more than one neighbor with Gaza and BOTH would appear to be in agreement.

Moreover, with Egypt being a Muslim nation, wouldn't there be greater pressure for them to assist? Their differences with the Palestinians are surely less difficult to overcome. Yet so many would call for Israel to relent when Hamas would push them "to the sea".

If someone wants to help the Palestinians, they should look towards Egypt.
 

JEDIYoda

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It just seems like there's an onus on Israel to resolve the situation when I see an opportunity for other Palestinian neighbors to chip in and help. I think it goes back to the blockade and flotillas attempting to breach it. All that nonsense when there's a border with Egypt that could be opened.

One should not cite international law as reason for a people to suffer.

If the argument is that this is in response to Palestinian violence, well then that is interesting for I'm certain Israel would cite the same reason. Then there is condemnation against Israel for creating the situation - when in retrospect there is more than one neighbor with Gaza and BOTH would appear to be in agreement.

Moreover, with Egypt being a Muslim nation, wouldn't there be greater pressure for them to assist? Their differences with the Palestinians are surely less difficult to overcome. Yet so many would call for Israel to relent when Hamas would push them "to the sea".

If someone wants to help the Palestinians, they should look towards Egypt.

One point that is lost IMO on the whole world yet has been stated many times on these forums is that nobody truthfully and honestly care about the people who call themselves Palestinians.

The people who call themselves Palestinians have been outcast in the middle east for a very long time.

I find it interesting and incredible that other Arab nations in reality want nothing to do with the people who call themselves Palestinian...
 
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