Egypt and Hamas...an article written 2 years ago...

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JEDIYoda

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written 2 years ago....Please address just this article and nothing concerning what is happenning now between Israel and Hamas and the Palestinians!! -- Thank You!!

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Egypt fears Muslim Brotherhood may follow Hamas example

CAIRO ? The government has been concerned over how the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip would affect the Islamic opposition in Egypt.
Officials and government-sponsored analysts have expressed concern that the Hamas victory would encourage the Islamic opposition to develop military capabilities in an effort to overthrow the regime of President Hosni Mubarak. They said the Interior Ministry has already been examining options against the Muslim Brotherhood, the sponsor of Hamas and the largest opposition group in Egypt.

"The Hamas military victory in Gaza is not what Egypt wanted," a senior official said. "It makes everything more dangerous."


The officials said Mubarak has assessed that the Hamas takeover would halt the prospect of a diplomatic breakthrough between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. They said Cairo regarded the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip as a victory for Iran and Syria.
"In Egypt, there are those seeking to reproduce what Hamas did in the Gaza Strip," Tariq Hassan, a columnist for the Egyptian state-owned daily Al Ahram said. "For anyone who has the slightest doubt about this and wants proof, it is enough to consider statements by Brotherhood representatives in parliament."

Hassan said the Hamas victory marked a setback for any Arab country that sought peaceful relations with Israel. The Egyptian analyst said the opposition has compared Cairo to the Palestinian Authority and the Brotherhood to Hamas.

"The Brotherhood holds the same positions and uses the same ideas and statements with which Hamas conducted a coup against the [legitimate] government, and through which it declared the Gaza Strip a rebel region under its rule," Hassan said.

In April, the Brotherhood began training young men for what officials asserted was a militia. Egyptian authorities arrested more than 30 people after Islamic students held a military-style parade at Al Azhar University that featured the green flag of Hamas.

"For the first time, the Egyptians felt fear when they saw the Al Azhar University students conducting combat displays with the same methods as Hamas, and in the same clothes, with the same slogans and means," Karam Gabar, chairman of the Egyptian government weekly Ruz Al Yusef, wrote. "The public felt the danger growing under its skin, flowing in its blood, and touching its nerves ? a real danger flowing from the depths, and not something imported from abroad."

Mohammed Al Ibrahim, editor of the state-owned daily Al Gomhouriya, said Hamas comprised the Palestinian branch of the Brotherhood. Al Ibrahim said the Brotherhood was guiding Islamic insurgency groups throughout the world.

"It is possible that Hamas will receive orders from Iran and fulfill them, and then it will drag the region into a destructive total war," Al Ibrahim said. "It is also possible that Teheran will convince Hamas leaders to repeat Hizbullah's experience."


In regards to this article I would say Egypt does have something to be very afraid of......as does Saudi Arabia which is NOT mentioned in this article yet a Saudi Spokesman expressed the same concerns concerning Hamas or The brotherhood!!
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
written 2 years ago....Please address just this article and nothing concerning what is happenning now between Israel and Hamas and the Palestinians!! -- Thank You!!

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Egypt fears Muslim Brotherhood may follow Hamas example
--snip--


Good luck with that.
;)

Yes, it is true, Egypt has its hands full with the Muslim Brotherhood, although I don't think the present administration (Mubarek has a virtual dictatorship, the nation has been in a "state of emergency" since the assassination of Sadat) will succeed in the long run. It simply arrests anyone from any opposition group, hence it just makes more enemies for itself everyday.

:(

 

Aimster

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There are 80 Million People in Egypt
Any group or individuals inside Egypt that are a threat will disappear. Car accident, shooting, etc.

Egypt is run by a dictatorship that is followed by a strong military power. They will crush anything inside Egypt that is a threat to them.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Aimster
There are 80 Million People in Egypt
Any group or individuals inside Egypt that are a threat will disappear. Car accident, shooting, etc.

Egypt is run by a dictatorship that is followed by a strong military power. They will crush anything inside Egypt that is a threat to them.

From Wiki: (sorry)

In the 2005 parliamentary elections, the Brotherhood's candidates, who must run as independents due to their illegality as a political party, won 88 seats (20% of the total) to form the largest opposition bloc.


Cairo Daily Herald: "20% of Parliament was killed in a car accident today"


I don't think so..............;)
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: Aimster
There are 80 Million People in Egypt
Any group or individuals inside Egypt that are a threat will disappear. Car accident, shooting, etc.

Egypt is run by a dictatorship that is followed by a strong military power. They will crush anything inside Egypt that is a threat to them.

From Wiki: (sorry)

In the 2005 parliamentary elections, the Brotherhood's candidates, who must run as independents due to their illegality as a political party, won 88 seats (20% of the total) to form the largest opposition bloc.


Cairo Daily Herald: "20% of Parliament was killed in a car accident today"


I don't think so..............;)

Those people are nobody.
They do not control the country.

One man in Egypt controls the government and that man and his people run all the shots.

Any kind of protest to say otherwise and their leaders will be jailed and nobody will have access to them.

Just like in Turkey. The people can elect whoever they want, but that country will never fall victim to Islamic ways. The Muslim party won and the Muslim party was struck down by the powerful minority.

Just do a Google search for news. Every month you will find an article that goes something like this "Egypt arrest banned Muslim Brotherhood members".

 

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
written 2 years ago....Please address just this article and nothing concerning what is happenning now between Israel and Hamas and the Palestinians!! -- Thank You!!

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Egypt fears Muslim Brotherhood may follow Hamas example

CAIRO ? The government has been concerned over how the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip would affect the Islamic opposition in Egypt.
Officials and government-sponsored analysts have expressed concern that the Hamas victory would encourage the Islamic opposition to develop military capabilities in an effort to overthrow the regime of President Hosni Mubarak. They said the Interior Ministry has already been examining options against the Muslim Brotherhood, the sponsor of Hamas and the largest opposition group in Egypt.

"The Hamas military victory in Gaza is not what Egypt wanted," a senior official said. "It makes everything more dangerous."


The officials said Mubarak has assessed that the Hamas takeover would halt the prospect of a diplomatic breakthrough between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. They said Cairo regarded the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip as a victory for Iran and Syria.
"In Egypt, there are those seeking to reproduce what Hamas did in the Gaza Strip," Tariq Hassan, a columnist for the Egyptian state-owned daily Al Ahram said. "For anyone who has the slightest doubt about this and wants proof, it is enough to consider statements by Brotherhood representatives in parliament."

Hassan said the Hamas victory marked a setback for any Arab country that sought peaceful relations with Israel. The Egyptian analyst said the opposition has compared Cairo to the Palestinian Authority and the Brotherhood to Hamas.

"The Brotherhood holds the same positions and uses the same ideas and statements with which Hamas conducted a coup against the [legitimate] government, and through which it declared the Gaza Strip a rebel region under its rule," Hassan said.

In April, the Brotherhood began training young men for what officials asserted was a militia. Egyptian authorities arrested more than 30 people after Islamic students held a military-style parade at Al Azhar University that featured the green flag of Hamas.

"For the first time, the Egyptians felt fear when they saw the Al Azhar University students conducting combat displays with the same methods as Hamas, and in the same clothes, with the same slogans and means," Karam Gabar, chairman of the Egyptian government weekly Ruz Al Yusef, wrote. "The public felt the danger growing under its skin, flowing in its blood, and touching its nerves ? a real danger flowing from the depths, and not something imported from abroad."

Mohammed Al Ibrahim, editor of the state-owned daily Al Gomhouriya, said Hamas comprised the Palestinian branch of the Brotherhood. Al Ibrahim said the Brotherhood was guiding Islamic insurgency groups throughout the world.

"It is possible that Hamas will receive orders from Iran and fulfill them, and then it will drag the region into a destructive total war," Al Ibrahim said. "It is also possible that Teheran will convince Hamas leaders to repeat Hizbullah's experience."


In regards to this article I would say Egypt does have something to be very afraid of......as does Saudi Arabia which is NOT mentioned in this article yet a Saudi Spokesman expressed the same concerns concerning Hamas or The brotherhood!!

So, if Saudi Arabia decided the threat were strong enough, they could flood the world oil supplies, depressing prices, and put a serious damper on the funding that Iran provides for these militant groups. Correct?

Then some other third party could destroy the infrastructure of the militants without fear of rapid rebuilding due to lack of funds.

Finally, the militants could revert to the only thing they have left, which is suicide bombing missions. Obviously not self sustaining.

The only thing these dumbass militant people have is their religion and it's fundamentalism.


It's like a damn turkey shoot....
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
So, if Saudi Arabia decided the threat were strong enough, they could flood the world oil supplies, depressing prices, and put a serious damper on the funding that Iran provides for these militant groups. Correct?

Saudi Arabia? They funds Hamas too:

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At least 50 percent of Hamas's current operating budget of about $10 million a year comes from people in Saudi Arabia, according to estimates by American law enforcement officials, American diplomats in the Middle East and Israeli officials. After the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, the Saudi portion of Hamas financing grew larger as donations from the United States, Europe and other Persian Gulf countries dried up, American officials and analysts said.
...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f...F934A2575AC0A9659C8B63

Granted, you don't hear much about that because Iran is on the agenda for overthrow, not Saudi Arabia.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
So, if Saudi Arabia decided the threat were strong enough, they could flood the world oil supplies, depressing prices, and put a serious damper on the funding that Iran provides for these militant groups. Correct?

Saudi Arabia? They funds Hamas too:

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At least 50 percent of Hamas's current operating budget of about $10 million a year comes from people in Saudi Arabia, according to estimates by American law enforcement officials, American diplomats in the Middle East and Israeli officials. After the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, the Saudi portion of Hamas financing grew larger as donations from the United States, Europe and other Persian Gulf countries dried up, American officials and analysts said.
...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f...F934A2575AC0A9659C8B63

Granted, you don't hear much about that because Iran is on the agenda for overthrow, not Saudi Arabia.
Does the Saudi goverment fund them?

 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
No officially, but they pass more money to Hamas than Iran regardless.

How would one verify your conclusion?

Iran officially and publically supports Hamas and releases press statements to that end. Would you like a link?
 

kylebisme

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See the quote from the NYT article I posed above.

And more info on Hamas's ties with Saudi Arabia:

http://www.washingtoninstitute...mplateC05.php?CID=2378
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4795574.stm

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Iran officially and publically supports Hamas and releases press statements to that end. Would you like a link?

No need for a link. I am aware of that. I don't think it would be any better if they just kept it under the table like Saudi Arabia does, do you?
 
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