Ego one-upmanship, Draconian measures, and reconstruction causing a rift between Blair and Bush.

Zebo

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Guess Blair never learned you can't negotiate with a bully. You're either his lacky or enemy.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Zebo
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Guess Blair never learned you can't negotiate with a bully. You're either his lacky or enemy.

Learning now. If anything, he's finding out how much a lacky he is considered by Bush.
 

LunarRay

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Britain is part of Europe and has responsibilities to that relationship that transcend the US desires to control everything Iraq. Blair also needs building his Labor base again before he calls for election there. Bush, it seems, is interested in his own reelection efforts at the expense of who ever else might have claim to the stage.
 

Jhhnn

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Apparently, the Bushies consider Blair to be a "Useful Idiot".

It's a dangerous game, however. Blair needs to distance himself somewhat from the Iraqi blunder. Admitting he was duped and pulling out British troops would put the US admin in a world of hurt... send his popularity skyward...

Don't mess with Tony Blair, he's a real SOB when the occasion demands it...
 

Dari

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My God, this is what happens when people read crap; they start to believe it.

The US-UK relationship transcends any other on Earth. In fact, that relationship is part of the "internal alliance" among the major English-speaking nations (US, UK, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand). It is very, very strong.

Bush, Blair, and their respective staff understand this very well. Don't believe this crap about a personal fall-out.


Presidential advisers in Washington wanted Mr Bush to be the sole leader to make a Christmas visit to troops in Baghdad and urged Downing Street to postpone any visit.

So I guess the visit by the Polish President was an exception, right?

Or how about Spanish Prime Minister Aznar, was he another exception to Blair?


BTW, Bush's visit was during Thanksgiving, not Christmas.

The American President declared that countries which didn't support the war will not be awarded any of the rebuilding contracts. Mr Blair has complained that the move severely weakened Britain's strength in the European Union and contributed to the failure of last week's crucial EU summit.

WTF did Bush/Blair relations have to do with Germany and France bickering with Spain and Poland over voting rights at the European constitutional summit? If anything, Blair was the moderator and his interests were not a sticking point.

Anyone that believes this crap of a story is an asinine fool. This article and the people that believe every drop of it is so out of wack that I'm actually ashamed in having to correct its errors, let alone show the Bush critics its many holes.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Dari
My God, this is what happens when people read crap; they start to believe it.

The US-UK relationship transcends any other on Earth. In fact, that relationship is part of the "internal alliance" among the major English-speaking nations (US, UK, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand). It is very, very strong.

Bush, Blair, and their respective staff understand this very well. Don't believe this crap about a personal fall-out.


Presidential advisers in Washington wanted Mr Bush to be the sole leader to make a Christmas visit to troops in Baghdad and urged Downing Street to postpone any visit.

So I guess the visit by the Polish President was an exception, right?

Or how about Spanish Prime Minister Aznar, was he another exception to Blair?


BTW, Bush's visit was during Thanksgiving, not Christmas.

The American President declared that countries which didn't support the war will not be awarded any of the rebuilding contracts. Mr Blair has complained that the move severely weakened Britain's strength in the European Union and contributed to the failure of last week's crucial EU summit.

WTF did Bush/Blair relations have to do with Germany and France bickering with Spain and Poland over voting rights at the European constitutional summit? If anything, Blair was the moderator and his interests were not a sticking point.

Anyone that believes this crap of a story is an asinine fool. This article and the people that believe every drop of it is so out of wack that I'm actually ashamed in having to correct its errors, let alone show the Bush critics its many holes.
Is this what your Suggar Daddy/ Mentor told you?
 

Dari

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Is this what your Suggar Daddy/ Mentor told you?

ad hominem, anyone? I guess you don't disagree with the aforementioned statement, right?

BTW, the only person here with a sugar daddy is you. Everyday, you come in and out of the closet...with your Sugar Daddy. What does he call you, Sweet? But you are what you eat. Having a Merry F#@&ing Christmas, Testicle-lips.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Dari
Is this what your Suggar Daddy/ Mentor told you?

ad hominem, anyone? I guess you don't disagree with the aforementioned statement, right?

BTW, the only person here with a sugar daddy is you. Everyday, you come in and out of the closet...with your Sugar Daddy. What does he call you, Sweet? But you are what you eat. Having a Merry F#@&ing Christmas, Testicle-lips.
LOL, I must have hit close to home:)

 

BaliBabyDoc

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The US-UK relationship transcends any other on Earth.
Here I was thinking all of that polling in the UK saying Bush was a threat to world peace meant something.

In fact, that relationship is part of the "internal alliance" among the major English-speaking nations (US, UK, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand). It is very, very strong.
Curiously, there's broad opposition to the war and occupation in every country you mentioned. Howard may be the deputy sheriff in the South Pacific but Chretien got nothing but the cold shoulder from Bush. I'm glad the Kiwis got our back.
rolleye.gif


I'm sure there's nothing to the notion that Bush wanted to announce the capture of Saddam.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
Is this what your Suggar Daddy/ Mentor told you?

ad hominem, anyone? I guess you don't disagree with the aforementioned statement, right?

BTW, the only person here with a sugar daddy is you. Everyday, you come in and out of the closet...with your Sugar Daddy. What does he call you, Sweet? But you are what you eat. Having a Merry F#@&ing Christmas, Testicle-lips.
LOL, I must have hit close to home:)

The only thing you hit is your Daddy's tonsil.

Equating my mentor with a boyfriend/sugar daddy is sick and disgusting. I'll ask you to stop here. Continuing this nonsense would be ill-advised.
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
Is this what your Suggar Daddy/ Mentor told you?

ad hominem, anyone? I guess you don't disagree with the aforementioned statement, right?

BTW, the only person here with a sugar daddy is you. Everyday, you come in and out of the closet...with your Sugar Daddy. What does he call you, Sweet? But you are what you eat. Having a Merry F#@&ing Christmas, Testicle-lips.
LOL, I must have hit close to home:)

The only thing you hit is your Daddy's tonsil.

Equating my mentor with a boyfriend/sugar daddy is sick and disgusting. I'll ask you to stop here. Continuing this nonsense would be ill-advised.


better watch your back his sugar daddy is going to come after you.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
Is this what your Suggar Daddy/ Mentor told you?

ad hominem, anyone? I guess you don't disagree with the aforementioned statement, right?

BTW, the only person here with a sugar daddy is you. Everyday, you come in and out of the closet...with your Sugar Daddy. What does he call you, Sweet? But you are what you eat. Having a Merry F#@&ing Christmas, Testicle-lips.
LOL, I must have hit close to home:)

The only thing you hit is your Daddy's tonsil.

Equating my mentor with a boyfriend/sugar daddy is sick and disgusting. I'll ask you to stop here. Continuing this nonsense would be ill-advised.

Methinks you should voluntarily leave P&N for awhile, you're starting to sound creepy.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
Is this what your Suggar Daddy/ Mentor told you?

ad hominem, anyone? I guess you don't disagree with the aforementioned statement, right?

BTW, the only person here with a sugar daddy is you. Everyday, you come in and out of the closet...with your Sugar Daddy. What does he call you, Sweet? But you are what you eat. Having a Merry F#@&ing Christmas, Testicle-lips.
LOL, I must have hit close to home:)

The only thing you hit is your Daddy's tonsil.

Equating my mentor with a boyfriend/sugar daddy is sick and disgusting. I'll ask you to stop here. Continuing this nonsense would be ill-advised.
I thought equating your boyfriend/sugar daddy to a mentor was sad and amusing, but whatever trips your trigger.


;)Lighten up, Francis. Sure hope Santa Daddy gets you a sense of humor for Christmas.

 

JackStorm

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Dari really does look like he needs to take a little break from this board. He's getting a bit touchy in regards to the whole mentor thing (although you guys really should lighten up on that whole mentor thing aswell). And his constant french bashing is starting to remind me of BOBDN's Bush bashing (meaning it's gone to far, such as calling the french "animals"). So yeah, dari should take a break, doesn't look like being on this board is doing his mental health any good :p
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
Is this what your Suggar Daddy/ Mentor told you?

ad hominem, anyone? I guess you don't disagree with the aforementioned statement, right?

BTW, the only person here with a sugar daddy is you. Everyday, you come in and out of the closet...with your Sugar Daddy. What does he call you, Sweet? But you are what you eat. Having a Merry F#@&ing Christmas, Testicle-lips.
LOL, I must have hit close to home:)

The only thing you hit is your Daddy's tonsil.

Equating my mentor with a boyfriend/sugar daddy is sick and disgusting. I'll ask you to stop here. Continuing this nonsense would be ill-advised.

Methinks you should voluntarily leave P&N for awhile, you're starting to sound creepy.
Starting too? He's sounded creepy with his Mentor BS from day one. People who need others to think for them is sad!

BTW Dari, your empty threats are not very intimidating.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
Is this what your Suggar Daddy/ Mentor told you?

ad hominem, anyone? I guess you don't disagree with the aforementioned statement, right?

BTW, the only person here with a sugar daddy is you. Everyday, you come in and out of the closet...with your Sugar Daddy. What does he call you, Sweet? But you are what you eat. Having a Merry F#@&ing Christmas, Testicle-lips.
LOL, I must have hit close to home:)

The only thing you hit is your Daddy's tonsil.

Equating my mentor with a boyfriend/sugar daddy is sick and disgusting. I'll ask you to stop here. Continuing this nonsense would be ill-advised.

Methinks you should voluntarily leave P&N for awhile, you're starting to sound creepy.
Starting too? He's sounded creepy with his Mentor BS from day one. People who need others to think for them is sad!

BTW Dari, your empty threats are not very intimidating.


Here's a definition of a mentor. It's less of a brain-transfer endeavour than brain-picking. My mentor is a professor of political-economy, most likely the best in his field.

I think it's very childish to focus your energy on such a scenerio rather than dealing with the topic at hand.

We can have a logical conversation like adults. Or we can bring this to a lower level. I didn't threaten you, I warned you. And it's definitely not empty.

Again, I'd recommend you move away from your salacious assessments.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Dari


We can have a logical conversation like adults. Or we can bring this to a lower level. I didn't threaten you, I warned you. And it's definitely not empty.

Again, I'd recommend you move away from your salacious assessments.
Sure, I won't mention your Suggar Daddy if you don't

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
We can have a logical conversation like adults. Or we can bring this to a lower level. I didn't threaten you, I warned you. And it's definitely not empty.

Again, I'd recommend you move away from your salacious assessments.
Sure, I won't mention your Suggar Daddy if you don't
Leave Dari alone. I want to see him "have a logical conversation like adults."

;)