EFI-X to ship Apple-ready Computers

Kaido

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Update 3: Wow, that was fast - EFI-X did an interview with Tom's Hardware to clear things up already. Read it here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/ne...-efi-leopard,6690.html

Update 2: Hahaha - EFI-X USA statement: "**NOTE: Millennium project is definitely abandoned, & EFIX USA LLC fights the clones and the clonemakers**"

http://www.efixusa.com/

Update: EFI-X is owned by ASEM (Art Studios Entertaminment Media), which holds the license and trademarks for EFI-X and also produces the chips. EFI-X USA is a reseller of the chips and made this announcement. EFI-X (ASEM) has no affiliation with them.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...l-start-shipping-os-x/

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From AppleInsider:

Unlike the offerings from besieged clone maker Psystar, the EFi-X Millennium 4 will be targeted directly at the performance crowd. It's expected to boast a Core 2 Quad processor overclocked to at least 3.8GHz, 4GB of memory, a GeForce 8800 GTS video card and a high-speed disk combination that includes a 150GB, 10,000RPM boot drive and a 1TB, 7,200RPM secondary drive that holds the bulk of the computer's storage. Two DVD rewriters will also be included.

The system will reportedly sell for $1,899 (plus the additional cost of a $199 EFi-X dongle) and deliver "85-90%" of the performance of a top-end Mac Pro for less than half the price, according to a company spokesman. Buyers can also potentially custom-order systems themselves.

Even faster models based on Xeon hardware, nicknamed the Millennium 8, 16 and 24 for their uses of two, four, and six quad-core processors, are due in as little as 60 days. The Millennium 24 is known to have six 2.13GHz Xeon L7455 chips that trade their raw clock speed for multi-processor support.

The emphasis on performance also switches the target market. While Psystar and others have mostly tried to recruit Windows veterans looking for a familiar system, EFi-X is actively seeking existing Mac users, especially those who would otherwise be faced with buying a Mac Pro to get the performance they want. The company is expanding beyond making the adapters alone because it sees existing desktop Mac users as wanting speed and simplicity at the same time.

"Of those [desktop buyers], I think there are a fair amount of them that would like something faster," the EFi-X spokesman said. "Most people that are new to the Mac buy an iMac or a laptop. [But] Mac people want easy."

This extends to the EFi-X adapter itself, which is the essential ingredient and mimics the EFI (Extensible Firmware Interface) hardware that Apple uses to control the pre-boot environment on all Intel-based Macs. The solutions provider is confident its approach won't cause the technical problems that have plagued Psystar and other first-wave clone builders.

The EFi-X card's firmware allows the Millennium 4 to emulate a true Mac as far as Apple's software is concerned, and therefore the solution won't force owners to turn to the command line or to skip important updates when a hack isn't available. Apple's Software Update and other downloads purportedly work as they do on an official Mac.

Accordingly, the Millennium's mainboard and other components have been chosen for their similarity to hardware supported by Mac OS X, which should recognize the parts as though they were Apple's own.

More importantly, the systems will potentially avoid the legal pitfalls that have spurred an exchange of lawsuits and countersuits between Apple and Psystar. EFi-X USA will mention Mac OS X as one of the operating systems supported by the system, but won't install the software itself. "We want to be clear about that," the spokesman says. The company also won't sell the EFi-X dongle pre-installed in the Millennium; it must be purchased as a separate product.

Whether or not this will stand Apple's scrutiny is yet to be determined. Although it's true the brunt of Apple's case against Psystar has focused on violating the end-user license agreement by running Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware, the current version of the Mac maker's lawsuit accuses the Florida-based defendant of contributing to infringement by letting users run a system that violates the license. Still, EFi-X believes it can at least prevent customers' systems from being knocked out by Apple software updates or revisions that might lock out competing clones.

"According to [our] engineers, there is no way Apple can disable the EFi-X card without disabling their own Intel Macs," the spokesman further points out. "There is no way that Apple can disable the EFi-X card because it utilizes the same open firmware that [its] own boards use and thus would render all of [Apple's] own desktops useless as a result."

The EFi-X website is expected to be updated with purchase details on the Millennium 4 this coming Monday.
 

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the EFi-X Millennium 4 will be targeted directly at the performance crowd. It's expected to boast a Core 2 Quad processor overclocked to at least 3.8GHz, 4GB of memory, a GeForce 8800 GTS video card and a high-speed disk combination that includes a 150GB, 10,000RPM boot drive and a 1TB, 7,200RPM secondary drive that holds the bulk of the computer's storage. Two DVD rewriters will also be included.

The system will reportedly sell for $1,899 (plus the additional cost of a $199 EFi-X dongle) and deliver "85-90%" of the performance of a top-end Mac Pro for less than half the price, according to a company spokesman. Buyers can also potentially custom-order systems themselves.
Hmm... those specs don't exactly scream $2,000 worth of machine to me. One could easily build that (and even with the raptor and extra $24 DVD burner) and add an EFI-X dongle, for half that price.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: Zaap
the EFi-X Millennium 4 will be targeted directly at the performance crowd. It's expected to boast a Core 2 Quad processor overclocked to at least 3.8GHz, 4GB of memory, a GeForce 8800 GTS video card and a high-speed disk combination that includes a 150GB, 10,000RPM boot drive and a 1TB, 7,200RPM secondary drive that holds the bulk of the computer's storage. Two DVD rewriters will also be included.

The system will reportedly sell for $1,899 (plus the additional cost of a $199 EFi-X dongle) and deliver "85-90%" of the performance of a top-end Mac Pro for less than half the price, according to a company spokesman. Buyers can also potentially custom-order systems themselves.
Hmm... those specs don't exactly scream $2,000 worth of machine to me. One could easily build that (and even with the raptor and extra $24 DVD burner) and add an EFI-X dongle, for half that price.

Yeah it seems like a pointless offering. Hire a high school kid to build it for $50 if you're not technically-inclined.
 

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Yet another update...EFi-X shut down EFi-X USA's attempt at selling the full PC's. LOL.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Yet another update...EFi-X shut down EFi-X USA's attempt at selling the full PC's. LOL.

Bet it's fun dealing with distributors when you have to walk the line as tight as you have to do with a product like this :D
 

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I wish I could go the EFI-X route. Unfortunately, neither my mobo nor my video card are compatible.
 

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: Zaap
the EFi-X Millennium 4 will be targeted directly at the performance crowd. It's expected to boast a Core 2 Quad processor overclocked to at least 3.8GHz, 4GB of memory, a GeForce 8800 GTS video card and a high-speed disk combination that includes a 150GB, 10,000RPM boot drive and a 1TB, 7,200RPM secondary drive that holds the bulk of the computer's storage. Two DVD rewriters will also be included.

The system will reportedly sell for $1,899 (plus the additional cost of a $199 EFi-X dongle) and deliver "85-90%" of the performance of a top-end Mac Pro for less than half the price, according to a company spokesman. Buyers can also potentially custom-order systems themselves.
Hmm... those specs don't exactly scream $2,000 worth of machine to me. One could easily build that (and even with the raptor and extra $24 DVD burner) and add an EFI-X dongle, for half that price.

Yeah it seems like a pointless offering. Hire a high school kid to build it for $50 if you're not technically-inclined.

A high-school warranty is not what many people want.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Well so much for EFI-X NOT shipping computers. Macintouch reviewed a complete "PC kit" furnished by EFI-X USA. These guys have no clue what they're doing (and that goes both for EFI-X and Macintouch).

1. I don't see anything about EFI-X shipping a pre-built PC - it looks like they simply sent them a hardware box to test their chip on. Although due to the recent media blitz it seems like EFI-X USA isn't keeping within the EFI-X company's guidelines.

2. What do you mean they have no clue what they're doing? Macintouch did a nice review using standard Mac benchmarking tools, I see nothing wrong with that. EFI-X USA simply sent them a test box to benchmark and review.

3. The article states that "EFI-X USA says they're working to get a two-socket/eight-core motherboard certified by EFI-X's engineers, but so far the EFI-X module supports only a single CPU socket." I don't see how this is possible, other than EFI-X USA bugging EFI-X...EFI-X USA is simply a US distributor of the EFI-X chip and has nothing to do with the EFI-X company. That's like saying Best Buy is trying to get Apple to release a Cube 2.0...
 

ViRGE

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United States distributor EFI-X USA has put together a very, very fast do-it-yourself PC kit, based on the hardware compatibility list from EFI-X.

For a fee, EFI-X USA will assemble and tune the kit for maximum speed, including overclocking the Core 2 Quad CPU and optimizing memory timing settings. They ship it to you ready to go.

EFI-X USA (a separate company from EFI-X) sent us a pre-assembled PC kit to evaluate. The PC we evaluated differs from the final kit in a few ways ? ours had a slower video card than you would get today, and one DVD-RW optical drive instead of two. The kit also will include a keyboard and mouse.
If that doesn't convince you that they're going to sell this, other than a written letter from the EFI-X CEO, I'm not sure what would.

As for the other points, Macintouch's review was lame fodder that tried to be a docile as possible (if this was AT, they'd rip in to them for shipping an unstable machine) and EFI-X doesn't know what they're doing because they're trying to sell a Hackintosh. We all know how well that works, see: Pystar.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
United States distributor EFI-X USA has put together a very, very fast do-it-yourself PC kit, based on the hardware compatibility list from EFI-X.

For a fee, EFI-X USA will assemble and tune the kit for maximum speed, including overclocking the Core 2 Quad CPU and optimizing memory timing settings. They ship it to you ready to go.

EFI-X USA (a separate company from EFI-X) sent us a pre-assembled PC kit to evaluate. The PC we evaluated differs from the final kit in a few ways ? ours had a slower video card than you would get today, and one DVD-RW optical drive instead of two. The kit also will include a keyboard and mouse.
If that doesn't convince you that they're going to sell this, other than a written letter from the EFI-X CEO, I'm not sure what would.

As for the other points, Macintouch's review was lame fodder that tried to be a docile as possible (if this was AT, they'd rip in to them for shipping an unstable machine) and EFI-X doesn't know what they're doing because they're trying to sell a Hackintosh. We all know how well that works, see: Pystar.

Wow, I totally missed that line. What happened to all that legal talk about how they're NOT going to ship Mac-capable PCs? :p

I think even sketchier than selling an unstable machine is selling a machine against the EULA. On a personal level, I don't think it's a big deal - you've purchased the software, you can do whatever you want with it. You're not profiting from it. In Psystar's case, they are taking an existing product and repackaging it against that product's terms of use to make a profit from it. That's hurting another company's bottom line, despite however small of an impact it would be. Most people who do Hackintosh wouldn't buy a Mac Pro anyway, so it's not like Apple is losing business for OSx86 for personal use - in fact, the more sales of the Leopard disc they make, the more money they get (there will always be a segment who downloads the software for free, but there honest people as well). I know very few people who are using Hackintoshes in a commercial application. But for a company to go out and publicly defy them, I don't agree with that.
 

ViRGE

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I agree that it's probably not a big deal for Apple's profits, but that's not what's at stake. What is at stake is that Apple's going to latch on like a bulldog and not let go until EFI-X is dead. The EFI-X device itself is already in a grey area, but trying to sell whole PCs is going to give Apple all they need to shut the company down.