Effective cancer cure is found, except you can't have it because of the FDA fraud

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No Lifer
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The FDA, like most federal agencies, was started with good intention. Once the genie is out of the bottle, however, it is too late.

The FDA today bows down to big Agra. They allow Big Pharma to peddle drugs directly to consumers via constant TV ads.

They allow congress and the DEA to keep helpful medicine out of the hands of people who need it, because it grows naturally, so there isnt a shit ton for Pfizer to make.

Hell, it took them forever to do something about "Downer Cows" going into the food chain...

They need to be disbanded and completely restructured.

black helicopters are coming for you.

if this worked even the chinese would fund this guy. you can't stop anything now.
 

Gooberlx2

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It is an official document from an FDA...
It means that there are at least some objectionably identifiable reasons for the trail. So it is some progress.

Maybe...maybe we'll what the results bear if they're able to meet enrollment requirements.

Regardless, statements like "Effective cancer cure is found..." are pure exaggeration because:
a) "cure" and "treatment" are not the same thing
b) It is unproven.

If he's been having issues with the FDA, then maybe he should have been working with them or the NIH and other cancer research institutions; instead of trying to commercially advertise the treatment before it was FDA approved, or make reimbursement claims on health insurers for administering an unapproved treatment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislaw_Burzynski#Legal_Issues

Regarding the patents, I'm failing to see at all how the US-DOH was trying to "steal" anything; just because he apparently wasn't playing ball with the FDA.
 
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crashtestdummy

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The FDA, like most federal agencies, was started with good intention. Once the genie is out of the bottle, however, it is too late.

The FDA today bows down to big Agra. They allow Big Pharma to peddle drugs directly to consumers via constant TV ads.

They allow congress and the DEA to keep helpful medicine out of the hands of people who need it, because it grows naturally, so there isnt a shit ton for Pfizer to make.

Hell, it took them forever to do something about "Downer Cows" going into the food chain...

They need to be disbanded and completely restructured.

These have nothing to do with the effectiveness of the FDA, and everything to do with limitations placed on them by congress. If you want to fix these issues, elect people who will change these policies.
 

adlep

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The US Govt filed 11 patents based on Dr. Burzynski work...
This is one of the patents:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=sO...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false or
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=5605930&OS=5605930&RS=5605930 -> Patent # 5,605,930


Another one where Burzynski is quoted as filed by the US Govt who was trying to put Mr. Burzynski to jail:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=2x...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent # 5,877,213

Another US Govt Patent referring to Burzynski
http://www.google.com/patents?id=0j...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent # 6,037,376

The invention described herein may be manufactured used and licensed by or for the Government for governmental purposes without the payment to us of any royalties thereon

I will find all of them in few minutes and have some of you line up to suck up on my balls and STFU.

Another one:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=5P...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent #5,635,532

http://www.google.com/patents?id=UZ...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent # 5,852,056

http://www.google.com/patents?id=5f...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent # 5,635,533

http://www.google.com/patents?id=-k...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent # 5,710,178

http://www.google.com/patents?id=-0...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent # 5,661,179

http://www.google.com/patents?id=cn...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent # 5,654,333

http://www.google.com/patents?id=GA...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent # 5,843,994

http://www.google.com/patents?id=HL...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false -> Patent # 5,883,124

If US Gov spends 60 millions of $ trying to discredit Mr. Burzynski's work (FDA), the US gov can not held patents that are based off Mr. Burzynski's work

As far as I am concerned, all of these belong to Dr. Burzynski. The competition was not fair as Doc was busy fending off gov's and big pharma's conspiracy -> which just like Gestapo was trying to destroy Dr. Burzynski's reputation.

Shame!

Bear in mind that it is not often that the US Gov is an agent that is involved in the patent application. This by itself proves that these fields of invention were and are of a great importance to the government.

Now, line up to suck on my balls:
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If the antineoplastons are not effective as a treatment option, why spend millions trying to get Dr. Burzynski and then file patents that go over antineoplastons?

Edit:
Some more research...
The "QuackWatch"
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/burzynski1.html
Refers to a document "Limits Placed on Burzynski's Cancer Treatment"
http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/News/burzynski.html
These limits were ordered by Texas attorney general Dan Morales...
Now, Mr. Dan Morales served time in jail for trying to secure a bribe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Morales
 
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TecHNooB

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if adlep ends up finding good evidence, this thread should get nominated for you know what :)
 

OlafSicky

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Dr. Burzynski has been at this for a while. In my opinion this is not a valid cure its just a scam like most such things. If it works the FDA would have approved it.
 

DaveSimmons

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Oh and btw,
The United States of America wanted to steal Dr. Burzysnki's patents...
Quite a move to steal a snake oil that doesnt work...

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=5605930&OS=5605930&RS=5605930

Edit:
Look at the application for the patent...
One gov agency (FDA) wastes 60 million dollars trying to discredit the work of Mr. Burzynski
while another (The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health) is applying for a fucken patent quoting Mr. Burzynski in it...
(Under References Cited)...
So, all of you shit heads screaming "snake oil" explain that...

Listing other, possibly-related patent applications on your own application is not "stealing" those patents. This application list 10 other patent applications, only 2 of them by this doctor.

Evidence of stealing not found.

Evidence of ongoing phase III trials not yet found either, though as I said earlier their website does claim one, very narrowly focused trial of an "orphan drug" might happen this year. Is the bar lower for those kinds of drugs?
 
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adlep

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Listing other, possibly-related patent applications on your own application is not "stealing" those patents. This application list 10 other patent applications, only 2 of them by this doctor.

Evidence of stealing not found.

Evidence of ongoing phase III trials not yet found either, though as I said earlier their website does claim one, very narrowly focused trial of an "orphan drug" might happen this year. Is the bar lower for those kinds of drugs?

See the movie -> stop contributing further to this discussion without seeing the movie first...
:)
Otherwise, you will also have to suck my balls...
:)
Dvorit Samid was a researcher originally hired by Dr. Burzynski as a consultant. Unfortunately big pharma and govt has corrupted her...See the movie, it is all explained there. Furthermore, these patent applications directly infringe on Dr. Burzynski patents and work...
Why the US Govt would infringe on patents owned by a quack? His methodology does not work apparently...Yet they spend 60 millions prosecuting him ->FDA and also they are quoting him as well - when it is convenient - in the patent app.
 
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adlep

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Listing other, possibly-related patent applications on your own application is not "stealing" those patents. This application list 10 other patent applications, only 2 of them by this doctor.

Evidence of stealing not found.

Evidence of ongoing phase III trials not yet found either, though as I said earlier their website does claim one, very narrowly focused trial of an "orphan drug" might happen this year. Is the bar lower for those kinds of drugs?

If you reference a researcher on your patent app, how come you are also trying to discredit him and put him to jail?
It does not make any sense...
Do you know how does the patent application work?
If you are quoting someone in your patent app, you base your patent claims partially on the quoted person's work...
Right?
Again, stop and see the movie :)
THX
 

Ruptga

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I was reading the OP with an open mind, then he used "Dr. Oz" as a reference.
 

adlep

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The same thing happen with Nicola Tesla's work...
After his death, the government just grabbed all of his patents and work and locked them in a secret vault...
Now a similar thing happens to Dr. Burzynski...
Shame that more two decades was lost trying to discredit his work, rather than cooporate with him fully, give him grants, and cooperate with his clinic...
:(
Big pharma and gov suck...
 

adlep

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Dr. Burzynski has been at this for a while. In my opinion this is not a valid cure its just a scam like most such things. If it works the FDA would have approved it.

The FDA kind of approved it by patenting his work...
:)
 

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Lifer
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We will see about that....
Meanwhile, I'll save your statement as a quote.

And we'll save yours. Unfortunately for us, you won't come back and make an all caps, bolded "I WAS WRONG THIS GUY IS A QUACK QUACK QUACK" when you quietly realize that you fell for it.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
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And we'll save yours. Unfortunately for us, you won't come back and make an all caps, bolded "I WAS WRONG THIS GUY IS A QUACK QUACK QUACK" when you quietly realize that you fell for it.

yea pretty much...

some people have their "how likely is it" circuitry all wired wrong.
 

Ichinisan

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Haven't caught-up in the thread yet, but...


Why does the website look so shady? Cool silver double-helix shapes just to make it look neat-o. Why do they have a bunch of "success stories" ?? If you want people to participate in a test without skewing the results, you tell them: "We're trying to find out if it works." You DON'T tell them "it definitely works and you need to try it!"

It's like those TV / radio ads for bogus supplements that try to tell you they're conducting a test of a promising new ____, and then goes on to say all the AMAZING things the product does. Then they say you have to "act NOW! Only a limited number of openings available. Get your first ___ treatments absolutely FREE."
 

DaveSimmons

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^ that's because you aren't seeking cancer "treatment" in one of his "clinical trials", that's where you pay for his "cures" .
 

videogames101

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NO name calling, also, his clinic does not make any money...
He is showing losses. Quite weird thing for a fraudster to actually NOT making any money...

Not really, people are just crazy sometimes. See homeopathy, etc.
 

DaveSimmons

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See the movie -> stop contributing further to this discussion without seeing the movie first...
:)
Otherwise, you will also have to suck my balls...
:)
Dvorit Samid was a researcher originally hired by Dr. Burzynski as a consultant. Unfortunately big pharma and govt has corrupted her...See the movie, it is all explained there. Furthermore, these patent applications directly infringe on Dr. Burzynski patents and work...
Why the US Govt would infringe on patents owned by a quack? His methodology does not work apparently...Yet they spend 60 millions prosecuting him ->FDA and also they are quoting him as well - when it is convenient - in the patent app.

You still don't understand that any patent application will (or should) include citations of any earlier work that might be related.

This can be used to narrow a patent or to deny it based on prior art, but citations appearing do not mean the new patent is "stealing" or "infringing" anything from the existing patents.

An application for mousetrap 20 might list citations for mousetraps 1-19 from 19 other inventors, then (to be granted) the new application must explain why it is new and different -- but then only the new and different parts will be protected by the patent.

Patents 1-19 keep all of their existing strength.