Edmunds: Bugatti Veyron vs. McLaren F1

[GTaudiophile]

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[StageLeft]

That McClaren was more revolutionary than the Bugatti (and three seats!!!). Nice to see it can still compete. I'd personally get the Veyron, but then I drive a minivan. I imagine I'd prefer its electronics. I don't know for sure but would guess it's a ton more reliable, too, that being a relative statement in cars of this caliber. I just picture the Veyron being an absolute little bitch on maintenance and constantly needing trips to the dealer to fix this and that.

 

[AMCRambler]

Comparing the Veyron to the F1 is like comparing the Space Shuttle to a Cessna. Considering the tech available at the time though, the McLaren was still a fete of engineering. I think they sum up the differences nicely though. The Mclaren is a road legal race car. Bare necessity and simplicity. The Bugatti on the other hand is technologically complex and highly intelligent in it's design. They really are two different animals that compete on the same terms.

That said, I'd rather have the Bugatti. The fact that their driver describes the rumble of the engine as "terrifying" is particularly awesome.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Been compared many times. The best comparison to the F1 is the F40. The Veyron's best comparison is the XJ220.

 

[fbrdphreak]

I'm honestly surprised about the McLaren. How are they cooking the brakes so easily? It's a 2700 lb race car!! Something wrong with their test car?

 

[StageLeft]

I'm honestly surprised about the McLaren. How are they cooking the brakes so easily? It's a 2700 lb race car!! Something wrong with their test car?

I noticed that, too. My assumption had (still is) that you could track the F1 for a long time and still have strong braking.

 

[AMCRambler]

Could be the F1 they were testing didn't have slotted/drilled rotors. Not sure if that was stock or not but it would make a difference with steel rotors. Or it could be that he's noticing a small amount of fade whereas the Bugatti has none and that makes it more glaring and obvious.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Yeah, I really think that article was complete BS. I understand they might not have been able to properly drive the cars on a dry track, but I can't help but feel the F1 would have killer on a short road course. Sure the Veyron has the power in the straights, but a 2+ ton luxury machine will never be as nimble as a 1.7 ton street-legal race car.

[/benchmark racing]

 

[SN4p]

I'd much rather have the McLaren. It's definitely going to be the more fun of the two I think. Also, center seat is win.

Put the McLaren on a dry track with a good driver and it can still lap with a Bugatti.

 

[fbrdphreak]

I figured out the problem: it was MR. BEAN driving!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowan_Atkinson

 

[RedRooster]

I think the F1 will go down in history as one of the best and most memorable cars ever built, everything they did to it was with a purpose and well thought out. The Veyron just seems like a luxury car with a honkin motor. I'd love to drive either, but I'd rather own the F1 I think.

 

[satyajitmenon]

I think the F1 will go down in history as one of the best and most memorable cars ever built, everything they did to it was with a purpose and well thought out. The Veyron just seems like a luxury car with a honkin motor. I'd love to drive either, but I'd rather own the F1 I think.

This.

 

[MJinZ]

F1. Driver focused. Dead on center.

We need affordable cars like this.

 

[fbrdphreak]

F1. Driver focused. Dead on center.

We need affordable cars like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Atom

 

[overst33r]

Could be the F1 they were testing didn't have slotted/drilled rotors. Not sure if that was stock or not but it would make a difference with steel rotors. Or it could be that he's noticing a small amount of fade whereas the Bugatti has none and that makes it more glaring and obvious.

I thought drilled rotors are detrimental to braking performance on iron rotors because they have less material to absorb heat and are prone to cracking?

I believe MB and Porsche have been quoted as saying that it they use drilled rotors based purely on aesthetics.

 

[RichUK]

F1 for me.

 

[thescreensavers]

Hands down I would have a F1 then a Veyron.

 

[dud]

Top Gear just did a side-by-side comparison of both cars a few months back. I believe the "race" was conducted in Dubai or the UAE. TG is falling out of favor with me personally but the race was exciting and the ____ won (if you didn't see it).

 

[thegimp03]

Top Gear just did a side-by-side comparison of both cars a few months back. I believe the "race" was conducted in Dubai or the UAE. TG is falling out of favor with me personally but the race was exciting and the ____ won (if you didn't see it).

Yeah, that was a pretty awesome race.

I'd take the F1 over the Veyron any day, just not in that color. It is easily my favorite car ever. I've never seen one in person but I have seen a Veyron and a couple of Carrera GT's which are pretty rare as well but not to the extent of the F1.

 

[theeedude]

F1 because you can pick up 2 chicks

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Yeah, I really think that article was complete BS. I understand they might not have been able to properly drive the cars on a dry track, but I can't help but feel the F1 would have killer on a short road course. Sure the Veyron has the power in the straights, but a 2+ ton luxury machine will never be as nimble as a 1.7 ton street-legal race car.

[/benchmark racing]

Wikipedia puts the McLarens curb weight at 1,140 kg (2,513 lb).

 

[GTaudiophile]

F1 > Veyron.

Did we conclude that the TG race in Dubai was bogus because of the altitude/heat affecting the Veyron turbos?

 

[ulukay]

i'd take the F1
if a want a fat and luxurious car i'd get a RR. but not a VW with 4 turbos :lol:

 

[Arkaign]

If I could only have one, I'd get the Veyron. It's supposed to be incredibly comfortable, has good A/C and a quality stereo and satnav. I guess I'm just old. I'd probably never even push it.

Edit : At least that was Jeremy Clarkson's take in Top Gear, the reviewer here had a totally different reaction. I still remember Captain Slow taking the thing over 250mph and not having to shout to be heard.

 

[thescreensavers]

F1 > Veyron.

Did we conclude that the TG race in Dubai was bogus because of the altitude/heat affecting the Veyron turbos?

It doesn't really matter, the one who should of won, won so w/e yea the Veyron should of been ahead of the F1 early on but its TV mang