EDIT: winXP lagging with nforce 2 board???

[PlaystAzn]

I got a barton 2500+ with 512 pc 3200 kingston hyperx ram. THey are running in sync 100%.

In windows XP...when i click around sometimes it seems to lag..like i'd right click on an item and it may take a while to show up...or even the start menu may lag...and desktop icons refresh slowly after a window minimizes.

what could be the cause of that? My temps are normal and its running at 190x11 @ 1.725 vcore. Ran though 8 hours of prime95 no errors.

 

[Jeff7181]

What kinda hard drive you got? Sounds like your hard drive is what's slowing it down.

 

[PlaystAzn]

i got a maxtor 7200 ata 133 40 gig as my main drive with my OS and programs. For other things like music and movies i got a seagate 7200 80 gig. How would those be slowing things down? are there any tweaks or ways to fix it?

 

[andyfasthands]

c: format

 

[Jeff7181]

That Maxtor drive is slow, so is the Seagate... problem #1

Problem #2 - windows slows down as you use it... it's a problem that's existed with every version of windows and is worsened by installing and uninstalling programs frequently

Problem #3 - your hard drive could be fragmented... you should defragment at least once a month... more often never hurts

 

[PlaystAzn]

it was a fresh install of winXP on a brand new harddrive less than 2 months ago. Also i defragmented last week. weird

 

[PlaystAzn]

whats a fast harddrive?

 

[andyfasthands]

Those drives are fast. shouldnt be lagging. Check your IDE cables. I'm sure you have the HD's set up master-slave, separate from the IDE cables for the optical drive(s). Other than that, i'm almost positive it would be a software issue.

 

[pspada]

Check for virii, parasites, worms and trojans. In particular, there may be one that has reset your search IPs, or even worse, your dns servers. I've seen these exact problems on a system so infected.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: andyfasthands
Those drives are fast. shouldnt be lagging. Check your IDE cables. I'm sure you have the HD's set up master-slave, separate from the IDE cables for the optical drive(s). Other than that, i'm almost positive it would be a software issue.

Contrary to the ATA133 specification that most people go by... there's not a single Maxtor 40 GB that is "fast" What people don't understand is that hard drives are the largest bottleneck in a computer... you can upgrade from a 1.5 to a 2.5 Ghz processor and not notice much difference except in games. Upgrade from a cheap 7200 RPM hard drive to a quality 7200 RPM hard drive with an 8 MB cache and you WILL notice a difference.

BTW... the fastest hard drives come with an 8 MB cache... Western Digital makes some of the fastest ones... thier Caviar SE series is fast... Maxtor has some 8 MB cache models that are pretty fast... and the Seagate Barracuca V's are pretty fast too.

 

[PlaystAzn]

well my friend told me that the same lag problem happens for him in winXP too...

man..i forgot one thing though...the administrative services in winXP!! Gotta turn some of those useless ones off...is there a list somewhere online that tells you what can be turned off safely and what should be left on?

 

[Jeff7181]

well, I'm also using Windows XP and I get none of the effects you're talking about

you might check to see if all those stupid transition type effects are turned on... for windows to fade in and our, and lists to scroll up on to the screen... turn em off

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Since noone's asked already, what board are you using?

 

[PlaystAzn]

I'm using Asus A7N8X deluxe 2.0

I just decided to test my system too...here are my scores:

CPU-6479, Mem-5965, HDD-1080

 

[marks70]

What video card are you using? Also, try booting into XP in Safe Mode and see if you notice the same problem.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: PlaystAzn
I'm using Asus A7N8X deluxe 2.0

I just decided to test my system too...here are my scores:

CPU-6479, Mem-5965, HDD-1080

If you're running XP with SP1 read
this also which unified drivers are you using and did you say no to the SW IDE drivers during install? BTW, Go ahead and post in the Asus forum there if the patch doesn't fix you up

 

[Duvie]

I run ata100 40gb drives in winxp and I have no lag what so ever.....Also winxp is a major improvement over win98 in things like memory leaks and managament, something that tended to lag the system after a period of use....


I am not familiar with the board, but does that board have a agp/pci lock???? maybe if the pci speed is out of spec it is contributing to problem...To test this place this back at default 166fsb instead of 190 and see if the responsiveness is better...yo may be running stock speed but the fsb is out of spec...

 

[DAPUNISHER]

AGP/PCI are locked on his board Duvie. NF2 chipset has the high CPU utilization issue I linked and the patch resolves it. The other potential but less likely culprit is the SW IDE drivers which cause people headaches as well. His symptoms are exactly what the HCU's are so the patch is the best place to start IMO. EDIT:if he's using SP1

 

[PlaystAzn]

thanks for the help guys!!

Yes, I am running winXP SP1.

I will try the patch that dapunisher suggested.

but there's also this:

Windows HotFix Not So Hot

also..can you tell me more about the SW IDE drivers?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

That's a different patch than the one I'm suggesting, did you install the one you linked? If so time for it to go and still install the one I linked The SW IDE issue doesn't manifest that way as far as I've seen, it causes problems with CD burning, device I.D.ing, stuff like that but who knows?

 

[PlaystAzn]

dammit punisher...you DA MAN.

NOW i have a fully running barton 2500+...i dont know wtf i had before...but it sure did go slow...i thought it was just me...or that i was asking for too much speed...

that patch really cleaned things up...man that was ugly...

cpu utilization in HD tach went from 57.4% to 6.2%

I feel much better about spending all that money on this new comp now...sucks too cuz i kept overclocking and it kept going slow...i very disappointed until now...

thanks all. especially dapunisher

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
That Maxtor drive is slow, so is the Seagate... problem #1

No they're not. They're not SCSI drives, but they are not soooo slow that they are causing his system to lag the way he described.

This:

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
If you're running XP with SP1 read
this also which unified drivers are you using and did you say no to the SW IDE drivers during install? BTW, Go ahead and post in the Asus forum there if the patch doesn't fix you up

is quality advice, though. Also, have you installed Windows XP SP2 Hotfix # 811493? The initial release of this patch causes major slowdowns in WinXP systems. Uninstall the old hotfix using Add/Remove Programs and then use Windows Update to reapply it with a newly released version that doesn't affect system performance.

So, load SP2 Hotfix 815411, uninstall the old SP2 Hotfix 811493, and reinstall the new SP2 Hotfix 811493. That should take care of you. Good luck.