EDIT: Those nations that protest vociferously against a war in Iraq are, in actuality, ensuring that there will be a war

[Random Variable]

EDIT: The Iraqi regime will not comply with any U.N. demands unless they feel that their existence is threatened. A unified threat of war (even if not 100% genuine) is the best way to force compliance without having to drop a single bomb.

 

[Fausto]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. It's the protester's fault. How did I not see that before. Thank you so much for opening my eyes.

 

[Novgrod]

I somehow doubt that anybody in iraq is busily checking the BBC for their news, so it wouldn't collapse from outside.

I also doubt that, regardless of the prospect, any government would willingly give up power, since you can count the people who do that on one hand. There would be a war, and though I think many of them silly, i won't tell the protesters that they shouldn't.

 

[pyonir]

I think it is all Fausto's fault for using that devil avatar. I heard Saddam doesn't like that, and that is why he is refusing to cooperate.

Thanks a lot Fausto!

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: pyonir
I think it is all Fausto's fault for using that devil avatar. I heard Saddam doesn't like that, and that is why he is refusing to cooperate.

Thanks a lot Fausto!

MWAAAAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!! I WILL CONSUME YOUR SOUL FOR THAT BIT OF INSOLENCE, FOOLISH MORTAL!!! :|:|

 

[Miramonti]

True. The protesters caused the Vietnam war too.

 

[vi edit]

MWAAAAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!! I WILL CONSUME YOUR SOUL FOR THAT BIT OF INSOLENCE, FOOLISH MORTAL!!!

Do you have any Trident Gum?

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

MWAAAAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!! I WILL CONSUME YOUR SOUL FOR THAT BIT OF INSOLENCE, FOOLISH MORTAL!!!

Do you have any Trident Gum?

Gonna take more than Trident to get the taste of Pyonir's soul out of my mouth. Stuff gives me wicked gas too.

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: vi_edit

MWAAAAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!! I WILL CONSUME YOUR SOUL FOR THAT BIT OF INSOLENCE, FOOLISH MORTAL!!!

Do you have any Trident Gum?

Gonna take more than Trident to get the taste of Pyonir's soul out of my mouth. Stuff gives me wicked gas too.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! little do you know i have no soul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sucker.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: vi_edit

MWAAAAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!! I WILL CONSUME YOUR SOUL FOR THAT BIT OF INSOLENCE, FOOLISH MORTAL!!!

Do you have any Trident Gum?

Gonna take more than Trident to get the taste of Pyonir's soul out of my mouth. Stuff gives me wicked gas too.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! little do you know i have no soul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sucker.

pffft. F*cking replicants.

 

[TheShiz]

this is amazing. You are blaming the fact that the rest of the world doesn't want this war on the people brave enough to speak out for what they believe. This is the damn 21st century, more people don't simply eat up all the BS that the government throws at them anymore, rightly so. If enough people speak out maybe we can have a peaceful settlement, and less people will die. No one can say really, but what has been pretty much agreed on is that if we do have this war many many innocent people will die.

Tim

 

[vi edit]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! little do you know i have no soul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sucker.
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pffft. F*cking replicants.

I thought he sold it for $99.95 to make his peepee bigger.

 

[rockyct]

Somehow I don't think anyone cares about the protesters, let alone Iraq base its compliance with UN guildlines on them. If you are going to blame a war on them, you also have as much fault because you are magnifying what they say and making them seem more important then they are.

 

[flavio]

So if everybody demands war then there won't be one?

 

[yowolabi]

So if we were all for war, there wouldn't be one? I see.

You'd be right if Bush was a robot who was forced to press buttons in response to certain stimuli. Saddam in power - push attack button. Your little scenario leaves out the fact that it's a choice of whether to attack Iraq or not.

 

[Random Variable]

"So if we were all for war, there wouldn't be one? I see."

This has nothing to do with being "pro-war." It has everything to do with understandfing why Saddam hasn't complied in the past, and understanding how to make him comply now without having to drop a single bomb. BTW, I've already stated on ATOT that I have a lot of reservations about an all-out war. So you can all bite me.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: Vespasian
"So if we were all for war, there wouldn't be one? I see."

This has nothing to do with being "pro-war." It has everything to do with understandfing why Saddam hasn't complied in the past, and understanding how to make him comply now without having to drop a single bomb. BTW, I've already stated on ATOT that I have a lot of reservations about an all-out war. So you can all bite me.

It's your faulty logic that is in question here.

 

[BatmanNate]

I don't see what you're hoping to accomplish by persuading anyone that the right to protest is negatively affecting our state of foreign affairs. The freedom to assemble and speak out against the governement seperates us from nations like Iraq and makes this country a better place to live.

 

[Random Variable]

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: Vespasian
"So if we were all for war, there wouldn't be one? I see."

This has nothing to do with being "pro-war." It has everything to do with understandfing why Saddam hasn't complied in the past, and understanding how to make him comply now without having to drop a single bomb. BTW, I've already stated on ATOT that I have a lot of reservations about an all-out war. So you can all bite me.

It's your faulty logic that is in question here.

It's too bad you haven't listened to Saddam explain over the past 12 years why he doesn't feel the need to comply with the U.N.

I'm looking for a way to make Saddam comply with having to go to war (because war sucks). You're just looking for a way not to go to war.

 

[Dufman]

the fact is. every country in the world could be saying that we shouldnt to go to war against iraq, but that is not what the people in iraq hear. they only hear what their government wants them to hear. they have no free press over in iraq. so if the world is at peace, the gov over there could, and probaby still does make it sound like the us wants to attack

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: Vespasian

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: Vespasian
"So if we were all for war, there wouldn't be one? I see."

This has nothing to do with being "pro-war." It has everything to do with understandfing why Saddam hasn't complied in the past, and understanding how to make him comply now without having to drop a single bomb. BTW, I've already stated on ATOT that I have a lot of reservations about an all-out war. So you can all bite me.

It's your faulty logic that is in question here.

It's too bad you haven't listened to Saddam explain over the past 12 years why he doesn't feel the need to comply with the U.N.

I'm looking for a way to make Saddam comply with having to go to war. You're just looking for a way not to go to war.

You don't seem to understand yet for some reason:

Protesting does not encourage war. Not protesting does not encourage peace.

Your logic sucks.

 

[Moonbeam]

Let me give you a little tip, Vespasian. There's gonna ber a war. The protesters aren't going to stop it. Saddam crumbling isn't going to stop it. We want Iraq and can't state that reason publically. All the protest and accession to the terms we state as our reason for going to war have nothing to do with our real reasons. If Saddam offered to ge the 51st state, maybe, but WMD or leaving office short of US control of Iraq will not stop the war. We are on a roll. Also, Bush cannot will reelection without this war and the one we will be gearing up for come next election.

 

[Random Variable]

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: Vespasian

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: Vespasian
"So if we were all for war, there wouldn't be one? I see."

This has nothing to do with being "pro-war." It has everything to do with understandfing why Saddam hasn't complied in the past, and understanding how to make him comply now without having to drop a single bomb. BTW, I've already stated on ATOT that I have a lot of reservations about an all-out war. So you can all bite me.

It's your faulty logic that is in question here.

It's too bad you haven't listened to Saddam explain over the past 12 years why he doesn't feel the need to comply with the U.N.

I'm looking for a way to make Saddam comply with having to go to war. You're just looking for a way not to go to war.

You don't seem to understand yet for some reason:

Protesting does not encourage war. Not protesting does not encourage peace.

Your logic sucks.

First of all, my thread is about the nations of the U.N., not the individual protester.

"The regime would crumble if the nations of the U.N. threatened them with all-out war."

Your logic sucks because you don't understand why Iraq hasn't complied with much of anything since they signed the cease-fire agreement in 1991. If you don't threaten the regime's existence, they will not comply. Iraq can be defeated by a war of words, which is much preferable to a war of guns.

 

[flavio]

Your logic sucks.[/quote] First of all, my thread is about the nations of the U.N., not the individual protester.

"The regime would crumble if the nations of the U.N. threatened them with all-out war."

Your logic sucks because you don't understand why Iraq hasn't complied with much of anything since they signed the cease-fire agreement in 1991. If you don't threaten the regime's existence, they will not comply. Iraq can be defeated by a war of words, which is much preferable to a war of guns.[/quote]

So if the nations of the UN decide to go to war, there will be no war. If the ntions of the UN decide not to go to war, there will be war.

Is that what you're trying to say?

 

[Moonbeam]

We don't want to defeat Iraq, we want Iraq.