EDIT: Reasons for the handling of the Best Buy Issue

[bastion]

I was viewing one of the recent posts pertaining to the Best Buy GeForce 4 debacle, I came across this posted in one of the locked threads.



<< You are not going to discuss this crap here.
Go somewhere else to moan and complain.

AnandTech Moderator >>



Let me see, if I remember correctly, this is what the Off Topic thread is supposed to be for. Oh yea, here we are:



<< A public meeting place, a Pub, if you will... A place for computer junkies to boldly post Off Topic... Things you might want to tell everyone... Or things you wouldn't say to anyone else. >>



Hmmm. . . seems to me that voicing a legitimate complaint about how a major company is screwing over thousands of customers fits in this category. This leads me to wonder . . . why exactly is Anandtech getting their panties in a bunch every time someone chooses to voice their opinion on this subject. From what I have seen, every single thread about this has been deleted or locked, and I imagine that the same will happen to this post as well. This makes me question where Anandtech's loyalties lie. Obviously not with it's readers who benefit from the information given in their website and posted by those readers in the forums. It appears that they are more interested in protecting their assets, by not allowing this negative opinion of Best Buy to remain on the forum long enough for the company to get upset and yank their support. It may not be true, but that is definitely how it looks.

However, after looking around some more, I noticed that Anandtech was allowing OTHER anti-Best Buy sentiment to stay posted in the forum, such as the "Best Buy is Suck" thread, in which there are negative statements about Best Buy made pertaining to a double charge made on someone's credit for a phone. Now, why is this thread allowed to stay open, but any negative comments, or even just a simple discussion of the current situation of the GeForce 4 deal gets automatically shutdown? Not to worry though, because there are many other places at which to get information about this deal, and other places where anyone can talk and post freely about it without fear of having the thread be locked down because someone might get upset. I just don't understand why Anandtech is choosing to deal with the situation by simply ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist.

 

[wyvrn]

Basically, moderators are human. Fairness is an often sought trait but not an often administered one. Also, this is not a democracy and they can pick and choose what gets discussed here without your consent, and I am sure they have their reasons for doing it.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

OH SHUT UP!

Lock lock, ban!

 

[isildur]

<snort>

like questioning the mods is going to fly here...

<chuckle>

 

[skace]

I see you have 1 post, I hope you get a chance to see 2

 

[bastion]

<< OH SHUT UP!

Lock lock, ban! >>



Yet another example of what I spoke of. I guess the way things work now, if you don't like it, you ban it? Seems like with a medium such as this forum, if you didn't like what was posted, you didn't have to read it. It's your choice, just as it's my choice to voice my opinion. Just cause I say something doesn't mean you have to agree with it, nor does it mean you even have to listen to what I have to say. But I don't believe it gives you the right to ban me for it.

 

[iamwiz82]

we all know this is someone who does not have the balls to post under their own name. If you have such beliefs, why not share them openly, instead of hiding?

 

[MajesticMoose]

Get over it, and stop hiding behind some BS alias.

 

[pyonir]

the reason is because the GF4 situation has been covered. there were TONS of threads dealing with it and that eats up bandwidth and slows down the forums for non-subscribers. the issue has been discussed. it is over with. why the need to keep bringing it up? have fun in the other forums....

 

[Geekbabe]

<<

<< OH SHUT UP!

Lock lock, ban! >>



Yet another example of what I spoke of. I guess the way things work now, if you don't like it, you ban it? Seems like with a medium such as this forum, if you didn't like what was posted, you didn't have to read it. It's your choice, just as it's my choice to voice my opinion. Just cause I say something doesn't mean you have to agree with it, nor does it mean you even have to listen to what I have to say. But I don't believe it gives you the right to ban me for it. >>



This is a private not public resource, Anand and his staff make and enforce the rules of play here. Might I suggest that if you have issues with how your postings have been treated that you email or pm the mods and try to have a respectful dialogue with them .

 

[Optimus]

why, you are right! These are publicly owned servers, paid for with your tax dollars and...


oh no, wait - they aren't.


Well, I'm sure you personally subscribe to the forums and are therefore a paying customer who.... no no - you aren't a subscriber.


But I'm sure you would do a much better job of keeping things sane on a forum with 70,000 users, so you should "show them" and go start your own forums, get 70,000 users to join, then you could allow all the GeForce discussions in the world.

Sounds like a plan - get right on it!

 

[bastion]

<< I see you have 1 post, I hope you get a chance to see 2 >>



Don't care really. Glad to see however, that instead of judging someone by what they say, you judge them by their post count. Tells me alot about you. Just because you have a higher post count doesn't mean everything that comes out of your mouth is a pearl of wisdom. Just a thought to consider.

 

[pulse8]

<< Get over it, and stop hiding behind some BS alias. >>

Exactly.

If you can't, then just leave! Why do some people feel that this forum needs to change according to them?

 

[TuffGirl]

<< If you can't, then just leave! Why do some people feel that this forum needs to change according to them? >>

Because the world revolves around them... DUH!

 

[gopunk]

no no - you aren't a subscriber.

how can you tell?

 

[Hammer]

wrong! it revolves around me

 

[bastion]

I don't believe the forum needs to change. I was simply searching for an explination as to why they were choosing to deal with the situation by deleting and locking everything in sight that has to do with this. Pyonir's post seemed to help explain this in a constructive fashion, which is more than I can say for most of the replies.

Also, I don't understand the claims of myself hiding behind an alias. I somehow doubt that iamwiz82 is actually your real name, is it? I had never posted on these forums until today, and only started an account to post my original question, so I do not know where this accusation comes from.

Regardless, thanks to Pyonir for a decent response. If it is simply because of bandwith issues, that is fine, I can understand that. But with the amount of posts made here every day, I didn't think a few more about another issure would affect them that much. Instead of locking or deleting, couldn't they just lump them into one large thread and route all posts dealing with the fiasco there, so as to cut down on the amount of new threads every time someone wants to say something about it? I can understand cutting off people who simply want to flame, but not those actually tring to have a discussion about the situation. It just seems kind of rude to simply cut everyone off. I would have figured there was something else they could have done instead.

 

[db]

Man, stop being so f**king sensitive. Get over it. Everybody else does.

 

[Azraele]

Stop bellyaching.

1) Mods are human, and as such, are prone to human judgement.
2) This is a private forum, as has been mentioned.
3) Mods are volunteers and unpaid, they do a good job for free.
4) If you have a question, either email or pm the mods, don't publically diss them, it's unprofessional and childish.
5) Sometimes mods don't catch everything.

5) If you don't like it..


there's the door. ----->

Seriously, I think people reacted to you post in the way that you did because of its tone. Perhaps if you re-worded it, you might get a better response.

 

[im2smrt4u]

AT is a dictatorship (or maybe an oligarchy? ) not a democracy. What the mods do is law around here and no one can change that. Its that way on every forum anywhere!

 

[Optimus]

<< how can you tell? >>



Its a secret!

 

[ThisIsMatt]

<<

<< OH SHUT UP!

Lock lock, ban! >>



Yet another example of what I spoke of. I guess the way things work now, if you don't like it, you ban it? Seems like with a medium such as this forum, if you didn't like what was posted, you didn't have to read it. It's your choice, just as it's my choice to voice my opinion. Just cause I say something doesn't mean you have to agree with it, nor does it mean you even have to listen to what I have to say. But I don't believe it gives you the right to ban me for it. >>

No, I'm tired of seeing you whiney babies complain about some store "ripping" you off when in fact you lost zero, zilch, nada, nothing. Ohhhhhhhh, sorry, if I don't like it, don't read it, right? Sorry, my ability to translate "Questioning the Ethics of Anandtech" into "I'm a whiney little be0tch" has not been perfected, yet. Yes, have your opinion. It's stupid, but you have the right to be stupid. Plus, you're too much of a wuss to post under your real handle, or you've just been lurking, which just means you haven't contributed one thing to these forums/this site.

g'bye.

 

[iamwiz82]

<< I don't believe the forum needs to change. I was simply searching for an explination as to why they were choosing to deal with the situation by deleting and locking everything in sight that has to do with this. Pyonir's post seemed to help explain this in a constructive fashion, which is more than I can say for most of the replies.

Also, I don't understand the claims of myself hiding behind an alias. I somehow doubt that iamwiz82 is actually your real name, is it? I had never posted on these forums until today, and only started an account to post my original question, so I do not know where this accusation comes from.

Regardless, thanks to Pyonir for a decent response. If it is simply because of bandwith issues, that is fine, I can understand that. But with the amount of posts made here every day, I didn't think a few more about another issure would affect them that much. Instead of locking or deleting, couldn't they just lump them into one large thread and route all posts dealing with the fiasco there, so as to cut down on the amount of new threads every time someone wants to say something about it? I can understand cutting off people who simply want to flame, but not those actually tring to have a discussion about the situation. It just seems kind of rude to simply cut everyone off. I would have figured there was something else they could have done instead. >>




So the question i have for you is, do you go to each forum and post something you dont like about it?

I dont see why a bunch of whining ferengi should be allowed to wial that they didnt get to steal their $200 from a company. "But it was the price they advertised" is the anthem of the slime of hot deals('cept for rossman, he has helped me ).

BTW, iamwiz82 is a play on my last name, so you are wrong.

 

[bastion]

<<
So the question i have for you is, do you go to each forum and post something you dont like about it?

I dont see why a bunch of whining ferengi should be allowed to wial that they didnt get to steal their $200 from a company. "But it was the price they advertised" is the anthem of the slime of hot deals('cept for rossman, he has helped me ).

BTW, iamwiz82 is a play on my last name, so you are wrong. >>



As stated, I have been by the forums a few time to find some info, but have never felt compelled to comment on anything until today. There are some things I like about Anandtech and it's forums, but this was upsetting me and I chose to say something about it. I apologize if the fact that this is my first post upsets you. I guess I wasn't thinking about how it would affect others at the time. I guess I should have waited until I became a diamond member before I voiced my opinion. And if hot deals are such a crime, then I they better take down the hot deals forum. Wouldn't want to upset anyone, would we

EDIT: I am not in on this deal. I have been reading many things from many sources about it and was wondering why Anandtech chose to deal with it the way that they did. People had been speculating, so I decided to go right to the source with what many people seemed to feel about this. If what was stated about it being a bandwith issue is true, that that is fine, and I hope that others who read this understand that as well. I just didn't like seeing many people feeling oppressed because of the possibility of some lock-happy mods running around who simply didn't feel like letting anyone discuss it. I honestly don't care how you feel about my posting ettiquete, and you don't have to worry about it as I won't be posting here again, since my original question has been answered. There is no longer any reason for me to vest my time into persuing this lowbrow conversation any longer.

 

[Moonbeam]

bastion, you will note that you have complained about something, doubtless without full understanding of the issue, and are in turn being complained about without full understanding of your issue. This can lead to the generalization that ignorance breeds complaint and is a characteristic of humans.