EDIT- He steals the debate! Rent Is Too Damn High Party

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drebo

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Rent is only high because housing prices are artificially inflated due to a bubble caused by your liberal heroes.

YATBT.
 
Patranus

Patranus

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Um....
You are not entitled to live where ever you want.
If you cannot afford to live where you currently are, you should move to a more affordable location.
 
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Acanthus

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Prices in every major city are artificially high.

Supply and demand.

There really is no way to circumvent this.

Rent controls do keep it from getting out of hand though.
 
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spidey07

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Patranus said:
Um....
You are not entitled to live where ever you want.
If you cannot afford to live where you currently are, you should move to a more affordable location.
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Yep. Or get a better job, make more money, buy your own property and let the renters make you rich. Since they are so unmotivated to better themselves you can charge them whatever you want, all they do is complain but they still pay the rent.
 
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Moonbeam

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Acanthus said:
Prices in every major city are artificially high.

Supply and demand.

There really is no way to circumvent this.

Rent controls do keep it from getting out of hand though.
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Of course there is. Housing should be owned by the government. You rent where you work, you move to the country when you retire. Cities should be planned and built from the ground up in one intelligent design, no haphazard crap like what exists now. You maintain what you rent or move to government slums to be with your own kind.
 
nonlnear

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Moonbeam said:
Of course there is. Housing should be owned by the government. You rent where you work, you move to the country when you retire. Cities should be planned and built from the ground up in one intelligent design, no haphazard crap like what exists now. You maintain what you rent or move to government slums to be with your own kind.
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So you would like to see government provide a workhouse, a poorhouse, lavish suites for the elite planners (after all, they deserve nothing less!), and what else? Forced relocations of the disenfranchised "unproductive" folks when the power brokers deem it suitable. Funny how some utopians who think themselves the biggest detractors of the abuses of Dickens' time can bear such a striking resemblance to their supposed enemies...

No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
 
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Moonbeam

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nonlnear said:
So you would like to see government provide a workhouse, a poorhouse, lavish suites for the elite planners (after all, they deserve nothing less!), and what else? Forced relocations of the disenfranchised "unproductive" folks when the power brokers deem it suitable. Funny how some utopians who think themselves the biggest detractors of the abuses of Dickens' time can bear such a striking resemblance to their supposed enemies...

No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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No, as I said in another thread, those with boring and routine jobs would get the better housing. Nobody has to be forced anywhere, but folk should maintain where they live as if it were their home since it is as long as they work near by and they shouldn't make a mess of it since they may move and wouldn't want to move into somebody else's mess. Just a golden rule thing. The poor house would be for folk who don't want to play the game of working for a living. They would get a place in the country to live where they are provided land and the means to grow their own food but that's it. Work for money to trade for what you need or produce what you need yourself and trade it. Capitalism is a joke for many people. They don't need much and don't want to be rats turning a wheel because some other asshole does. We all have a right to some kind of live, modest if you don't want to waste your live making money.

Those who want to work for companies and shit should be able to live close by so as to make life easier for them and to save energy. Millions of folk would love to be able to walk out of a nice dig and to their job, or ride a bike or tiny electric car.

Living by folk you work with would also build social cohesion.

When folk who hate themselves look outside, they see the pigs they would see if they looked within. Look deeper and you will see God looking back at you.
 
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piasabird

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I can see a need for some lower rental rates. It is easy to tell someone to move somewhere else. However, then that person that moves starts commuting back and forth causing even more pollution. That is not really a good solution in a lot of cities that do not have a top notch transportation system. Often in a large part of the country transportation is only available if you own a car.
 
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her209

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GuitarDaddy said:
If by "liberal heroes" you mean Bush/Cheney you are correct
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When the housing bubble was in full swing, a lot of people looking into buying houses were banking on the fact that they didn't have to pay capital gains taxes on the first $250,000 for single, $500,000 for married, of capital gains so long live in the residence for 2 of the last 5 years.
 
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RedChief

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Acanthus said:
Rent controls do keep it from getting out of hand though.
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For who?

New renters have to pay higher rents to subsidize those who have been a tenant for an extended time. There are costs to owning a rental properties and rent control does not take this into account.
 
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