Edit: ATI Radeon 8500 LOOK AT THE QUALITY

vss1980

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Well, I'm sure you know that these errors are not supposed to be there. Do they occur in other games or 3D programs like 3DMark? If so, I'd be thinking that there is something wrong with the card.

You should check on the forums on a site like Rage3D so see if others have had this problem. It could just be a driver/rendering error with those ATI demos, but I doubt it.
 

AA0

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mine looks fine, I'd make sure your drivers are set back to defaults. And if you had an old Nvidia card in there before, you remove all the drivers it leaves behind, because its uninstaller doesn't work.
 

Thor_Sevan

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Why should AGP4x be disabled of the video card is supposed to support AGP 4x ?
This is something I don't understand...

Thor
 

Bovinicus

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I don't either, I think he is wrong about that. However, Do disable fastwrites and sideband addressing possibly too.
 

Kilrsat

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Based on my experience with my very own Radeon8500 I'd say either the images are false, the test was designed to make the card fail (i.e. overclock the core well beyond its limit), or there's always a small chance the person has a bad card.

I've run my card (retail version... Dell eventually delivered) with an epox 8k7a and a soyo dragon+. Both systems had a T-bird 1.2@1.3-1.4, agp 4x on, and agp fastwrites on.

3dmark2001 ran flawlessly on each at the default 275/275 settings, and even flawless at 290/290.

So yes, a Radeon8550 can pass tests without artifacts, yes it can run in agp 4x w/ fastwrites, and yes something must be wrong with your test, system, or card.
 

tazdevl

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All, fastwrites is a nVIDIA technology. Doesn't make sense for ATI to support it.

Fastwrites generally adds maybe 1-2 FPS and a fair mount of instability to your system. Not worth it. People also bitch about AGP4X, gains with AGP4X are minimal and depending on your motherboard chipset, it can cause instability as well.



 

sharkeeper

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It is widely known that you must disable 4X AGP and Fastwrites for the 8500 to work properly. I don't know what chipset or CPU you have, but with an AMD system this is necessary. 3D Mark 2001 will crash right away if you have it enabled, and other programs will produce moderate to severe graphic anomalies before locking the system up. This was my experience with the 8500 and many others as well. FYI nVidia has them disabled in current drivers whereas ATi does not. With the 8500 it is up to the user (BIOS) to disable these functions. There is little loss (or improvement) anyways. It's kind of like running an ATA 100 hard disk in ATA 66 mode. Many people will think otherwise because they're taught bigger is always better! :p

Cheers!
 

AA0

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you can run a 8500 with 4x on, just not the fast writes. Thats what I do, and its fine. For those people who have cheap SiS chipsets, you do have to take 4x to 2x.
 

Pabster

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Huh?

I've got a Radeon 8500 working perfect with an ECS K7S5A - fast writes, sidebanding, 4X AGP, and even overclocked. Where did you hear that nonsense?

I guess that goes against AA0's idea that "cheap" SiS chipsets have issues with 4X AGP, eh? :D
 

flexy

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<< It is widely known that you must disable 4X AGP and Fastwrites for the 8500 to work properly. Cheers!
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yepp.....cheers :)

Of course that's utter **** that you have to disable AGPx4 :)


 

Soccerman

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Lol if the Radeon 8500 is anything like the original Radeon, it should do AGp 4x fine (mine does). I can't remember (and can't check cause I'm in a different country right now) if I have fast writes enabled or not, but if I do or don't, I can say that my system is extremely stable (and I'm running windows 98).
 

AA0

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I didn't say they have issues with 4x, you can not disable fastwrites with those awful chipsets, so you have to disable 4x to disable fastwrites.