Ecstasy Rising???

[CADsortaGUY]

So who watched this piece by Jennings?

Thoughts?

CkG

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
So who watched this piece by Jennings?

Thoughts?

CkG

"In the 1990s, Ecstasy seemed to come out of nowhere"

Check out a recent issue of playboy (2 months ago, I think) for
info about where this drug really came from...


You will be shocked

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
So who watched this piece by Jennings?

Thoughts?

CkG

"In the 1990s, Ecstasy seemed to come out of nowhere"

Check out a recent issue of playboy (2 months ago, I think) for
info about where this drug really came from...


You will be shocked

That article sucks compared to what they showed on TV. Yes, the origins of it are somewhat interesting. The fact that it has been maligned like it has is interesting too. Ofcourse it is synthetic so it doesn't come with out those risks. But it seems that it's "damage" has been "slightly" overstated.

So I guess no one watched Jenning's show on it tonight.

CkG

 

[Nebor]

As far as I know, methamphetamine is in fact the fastest growing drug in the country... at least that's what my friend in Dallas DEA has told me.

 

[DealMonkey]

Remember that episode on "That's My Bush" where George accidentally tries ecstasy. Oh man, that was perhaps the funniest episode of that show's short history. Heh, might do him some good in real life -- really bring out the 'compassionativity' in him.

 

[Coquito]

While watching, it shocked me(because I am so ignorant mainly), that this drug basically became illegal overnight. No testing for potential positive uses, not to mention, to define what it acually does to your system. All the testing done afterwards by that one man that said how terrible it was, later had to be retracted, because it was almost entirely false. The drug went from being some huge craze for awhile, to something shunned by the government as much as crack cocaine. Without much of anything to prove why.

It makes me think that there is a much bigger plan behind all this(in addition to everything else), that we aren't aware of.

 

[Insane3D]

Why do I have trouble picturing Cad watching Peter Jennings....EVAR. Isn't he like a particularly nasty member of the vast left wing media machine?

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
So who watched this piece by Jennings?

Thoughts?

CkG

It's so very sad that such a useful drug can be so horribly abused;

Did you know that MDMA causes direct irreparable damage to the serotonin *happiness* producers in the brain? So when you take it, quite literally, you'll never be that happy again in your life. This can be reduced by taking a mega-dose of anti-oxidants but never completely eliminated.

In a proper psychotherapist setting MDMA can be used to out-right cure those with post-traumatic stress syndrome.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Why do I have trouble picturing Cad watching Peter Jennings....EVAR. Isn't he like a particularly nasty member of the vast left wing media machine?

I have kids. Kids I don't want to end up living a life of drugs. Ecstasy is definately here as there were 5 people in DesMoines busted in "Candy Box". I want to see what the media has to say about it instead of just the commercials you see and hear.
Jennings is an asshat - that much is for certain when it comes to political news but if he tries hard enough he can almost pull off a show without sounding like a moron

I'll have to look at this some more so I'm prepared if one of my kids decides they need pills to be happy or have fun.

CkG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Why do I have trouble picturing Cad watching Peter Jennings....EVAR. Isn't he like a particularly nasty member of the vast left wing media machine?

I have kids. Kids I don't want to end up living a life of drugs. Ecstasy is definately here as there were 5 people in DesMoines busted in "Candy Box". I want to see what the media has to say about it instead of just the commercials you see and hear.
Jennings is an asshat - that much is for certain when it comes to political news but if he tries hard enough he can almost pull off a show without sounding like a moron

I'll have to look at this some more so I'm prepared if one of my kids decides they need pills to be happy or have fun.

CkG

Just had three small children died in trailer home fire here.

The parents were cooking Meth on the stove.

Of course the druggie parents survived the fire. :|

 

[XZeroII]

That was perhaps the crappiest article I have ever read. They give the positives, then one sentence saying that it could cause brain damage, then done. I could pull a better article out of my @$$.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
So who watched this piece by Jennings?

Thoughts?

CkG

It's so very sad that such a useful drug can be so horribly abused;

Did you know that MDMA causes direct irreparable damage to the serotonin *happiness* producers in the brain? So when you take it, quite literally, you'll never be that happy again in your life. This can be reduced by taking a mega-dose of anti-oxidants but never completely eliminated.

In a proper psychotherapist setting MDMA can be used to out-right cure those with post-traumatic stress syndrome.

How can you have both results? Irreparable damage and a cure for PTSS? I call BS. Show us the "irreparable damage" study.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
That was perhaps the crappiest article I have ever read. They give the positives, then one sentence saying that it could cause brain damage, then done. I could pull a better article out of my @$$.

It seems as though the "study" that claimed brain damage was about as good as something anyone could pull out their ass. This is what has me concerned. If this drug is "dangerous" like the gov't has said for years - then show us the data to back that up. If not - the gov't needs to gain control of that market so there are quality controls put in place since it is a synthetic drug.

CkG

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
So who watched this piece by Jennings?

Thoughts?

CkG

"In the 1990s, Ecstasy seemed to come out of nowhere"

Check out a recent issue of playboy (2 months ago, I think) for
info about where this drug really came from...


You will be shocked

I don't get playboy- would you briefly summarize where this drug comes from for me? I'm interested in finding out now

 

[maluckey]

Look up on an internet search "methamphetamine". MDA, MDMA, and DOM are all chemically related to Methampetamines, though the efffect can differ. MDMA does not release as much adrenaline as most Methampetamines, so it "feels" less "wired" to the users. The dosage affects the symptoms, and at lesser dosages can "calm" a person with high anxeity. Larger doses of the same drug (MDMA), can cause extreme elevations in body temperature, dehydration, high blood pressure, and in some cases seizures and death. Rebound depression is not uncommon. Recent studies suggest that the damage to the brains Serotonin Receptors is permanent after frequent use. SSRI's are able to counteract this effect, but the patient will often not regain normalcy without the SSRI. Another hazard is that purchasers can get more than they bargained for. In little Rock, MDMA that has been tested, has been found to contain, or has been totally subsitituted with PMA. PMA is more dangerous than MDMA. Local groups in Arkansas offer to test MDMA (not police sponsored) and have been finding more and more "cut" or subsitutions in MDMA.

A good reference of the damgers of MDMA.

Johns Hopkins University Study on MDMA, (1998)

 

[DBL]

information from a flawed study snipped

Johns Hopkins University Study on MDMA, (1998)

Shame on you. This has made major coverage over the last couple of months. Read up on the flaws in this study, the major one being that the tested drug wasn't even ecstasy.


Flawed Ecstasy Study

Last year's research, involving monkeys and baboons, purported to show that three modest doses of ecstasy -- the amount a person might take in a one-night rave -- could cause serious damage to another part of the brain: neurons that use the brain chemical dopamine.

Two of 10 animals died quickly after their second or third dose of the drug, and two others were too sick to take the third dose. Six weeks later, dopamine levels in the surviving animals were still down 65 percent. That led Hopkins team leader George Ricaurte and his colleagues to conclude that users were playing Russian roulette with their brains.

Advocates of ecstasy's therapeutic potential, including a number of scientists and doctors who believe it may be useful in treating post-traumatic stress disorder or other psychiatric conditions, criticized the study. They noted that the drug was given in higher doses than people commonly take and was administered by injection, not by mouth. They wondered why large numbers of users were not dying or growing deathly ill from the drug, as the animals did, and why no previous link had been made between ecstasy and Parkinson's despite decades of use and a large number of studies.

The answer to at least some of those questions became clear with the retraction, which is being released by Science on Sunday evening but was obtained independently by The Washington Post. Because of a mislabeling of vials, the scientists wrote, all but one of the animals were injected not with ecstasy but with methamphetamine, or "speed" -- a drug known to damage the dopamine system.

 

[maluckey]

OOps!! Just shows that I should get out more...

Different source, same conclusion. This one isn't the best, and many say it is non-conclusive.

Long term use damage is observed in this one, but short term use damage is not implied

News blurb, without full research article, but states that women are more at risk.

 

[Steeplerot]

Thik X or Meth is growing fast wait till they start bring some good ol heroin back into the states once people start waking up again at the lies we have been told going into these wars.
I wish I could find that pic of those marines guarding the poppy fields in Afganistan I saw the other day.