ECS K7S5A 31$ shipped from newegg. Refurb. 34 left.

[XCLAN]

Hope you guyz out here benefit from this.

newegg.

and we all know newegg rocks.

 

[mechsiah]

Wow that's a nice price. These boards can be quirky, but once you get them figured out they make a great "Mom and Dad" computer.

 

[nnnyyy]

thanks for the deal

 

[kevinxf]

Refurbished products are products that contain components that have been owned by other clients and returned to NewEgg.com. The products are refurbished, tested and sold considerably under cost. Newegg.com guarantees all refurbished products for 15 days only. CPUs will only have 7 days for refund. All refurbished items are considered OEM "barebone" parts.

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While Newegg.com does not like to discourage sales, only the experienced pc enthusiast should purchase refurbished items and know how to deal with missing accessories. Refurbished products do have a higher return rate than new items. The preferred refurbished product buyer would purchase larger quantities of the items and have the time to resolve defects or willing to work with it. If you are just looking for a low price deal, we highly advise purchasing new products. Refurbished items are not the same quality as brand new.

 

[lsman]

newegg are known to have problem with the refurb product. search the forum. There are love/hate ppl here. newegg never test them. Period.
BTW, the price is good. Any chance they want to clear their inventory of new one?
29 left.

 

[jrichrds]

Basically, it's a toss up whether you get one that was returned because it was truly defective (either on arrival or the customer somehow messed it up) or returned because either the customer didn't know what he/she was doing or just decided he/she didn't want it.

I'm guessing newegg makes more profit from trying to sell them again than sending them back to the manufacturer. If the "refurbished" board is truly defective and returned to them again, newegg doesn't take another loss, as the customer is the one that covers the shipping charges.

I wouldn't exactly classify these as refurbished.

 

[jrichrds]

How about this combo from NewEgg:
This motherboard + AMD Duron 1.1Ghz Retail Heatsink/Fan included = $85 shipped!

Not a bad upgrade.

 

[jmunjr]

This mobo is notoriously hit or miss - it is made by ECS and in CHINA where electronics made there are still of EXTREMELY poor quality. Taiwan is ok, but China just plain sucks. The design may be a good one but the quality control and skill in the workforce is awful.

Translation is you might get a board that works ok but you might get a bad one. Read the revies on the non-refurb listing of this board and also do a search on various mobo forums and you will see what I mean.

A better choice especially if you plan on using SDRAM like me is the MSI K7T Turbo2 KT133A board that is $33 as a refurb at Newegg. It isn't *quite* as fast as the ECS but very close and has a much better track record and much more stable..

If you are like me and need a cheap boost from a <600Mhz system and only have at least 256MB of decent PC133 SDRAM lying around then don't waste your money on DDR RAM and an expensive mobo to boot. An Athlon XP 1800+ + the KT133A will do fine - spend the extra on a better 3D video card, just be sure you have at least a "1600"system or so..

-John M

 

[frankqfrank]

I'm getting really sick of you people. Stay out of my life!!!!

I bought 2.

 

[Bomex]

14 left

 

[AAman]

already bought one this morning , err yesterday morning

got a mb from newegg last Friday, refurb, came with everything and worked out of the box,

guess I got luck - good deal on this board, since epox wouldn't rma my other bcz I
couldn't find the Frys receipt.

 

[alm99]

Got in on this deal last night, there are 5 left, I am keeping my fingers crossed....

 

[Dhruv]

i own this board, purchased it almost a year back for 55 dollars. was just wondering if you guys really think its worth it to save 20 bucks to get it refurbed. The noted issues on this board include: overheating, power supply issues, and occasional unstability for some ppl. would you want to get a used board for 20 bucks cheaper and less warranty? as an owner for a while, i'd just suggest pay the 20 bucks, the board new has already given quite a few ppl problems, its probably not worth it to skimp on 20 bucks on top of that. i haven't had that much problems, but remember going back and forth in the mobo section of this site with other users who had, i had some problem initially but got it resolved. the board is great though if you're lucky like me and it works pretty well. best value, and good performance. newegg does rock btw.

 

[dirtweasel]

i've had one of these boards running 512 megs of crucial 2100 and a t-bird 1.4 o/c to about 1.5 for about 9 months now and i love it. i haven't had one single problem with this board. i know some other folks have had problems, so maybe it's hit or miss, but i thought i'd add my 2 cents (worth about 1 cent in this economy).

dirty.

 

[lsman]

Originally posted by: jnmunsey
This mobo is notoriously hit or miss - it is made by ECS and in CHINA where electronics made there are still of EXTREMELY poor quality. Taiwan is ok, but China just plain sucks. The design may be a good one but the quality control and skill in the workforce is awful.

...-John M

I just want to let you know that all Abit low end MB, all shuttle, and some others ARE outsource production to ECS, and that's why it is number one or number two in terms of volume, neck to neck with Asus. I wonder why other co will let ECS do the OEM and in return to toss their image if the quality is so bad.

digitimes link

 

[alm99]

ALL GONE...my only problem with NewEgg is if it is DOA, I have to ship it back, eat shipping costs, and then wait a week and half for a refund, it doesn't matter if its refubished or new its the same process that takes forever. I know this doesn't pertain to the deal, but I needed to say it for some reason....rant

 

[Oakenfold]

I have to ship it back, eat shipping costs, and then wait a week and half for a refund

Is there an online store that will refund shipping costs on defective products?

 

[NICKel]

OOS !
Damn .. so much for thinking about it...

 

[alm99]

NewEgg use to credit shipping charges up to $6 if you asked, I am not sure if they do anymore. I have read on this forum that I think they stopped doing so

 

[eviltommy]

ive built quite a few systems with this mobo its nice and simple. last week i picked up a shuttle ak31a from newegg refurb. and its been great. i also got an evga geforce 4 ti 4600 refurb that is also great..

 

[jmunjr]

Originally posted by: lsman

I just want to let you know that all Abit low end MB, all shuttle, and some others ARE outsource production to ECS, and that's why it is number one or number two in terms of volume, neck to neck with Asus. I wonder why other co will let ECS do the OEM and in return to toss their image if the quality is so bad.

digitimes link

Eek, Abit was already bad enough. Read the description of the article. Their low end stuff is being outsourced to ECS.. I admit the stuff from China is better, but still nowhere near the quality of products made elsewhere. Look at the solders of Chinese electronic versus others. Most probably wouldn't know what to look for but that is the first thing that usually stands out..

IBM started making hard drives in china a few years back, I believe beginning with the 75GXP series. Matrox video cards too. MANY other electronics products are made there now. Well #1 I don't buy stuff from China cause the build quality still sucks, and if and when it does get better I still won't buy from them because of China's track record on human rights. Why anyone would buy from that Commie country is beyond my understanding. I guess in my selfish home country of the U S of A people don't care as long as they save a buck or two..

-John M

 

[Crpngdth2001]

NewEgg's refurbs (if you can call customer returns refurbs) SUCK! I bought 2 Gigabyte GA-7VTX motherboards, both DOA. The second one wiped out my T-Bird 1.33! I got stuck shipping back both POS motherboards (wouldn't credit me squat), almost $19.00 shipping. Plus, I'm out a T-Bird, which they won't do anything about either! Save your money and buy new or it'll cost ya sooner or later. My .02.

 

[Packy]

Bought a new one a month or so ago... I love it! Flashing an overclocking bios helps, too

 

[gtd2000]

I still won't buy from them because of China's track record on human rights. Why anyone would buy from that Commie country is beyond my understanding. I guess in my selfish home country of the U S of A people don't care as long as they save a buck or two..

What have you been smoking dude?

The American track record of human rights abuse is just as bad - maybe not in the 21st perhaps though. Some examples for ya:

The systematic eradication of the American Indian.
Prohibition.
Being shot for being a member of a Trade Union.
Slavery of Blacks.
Aparteid system/Color Bar until 1965. (some might say it continues)

Sounds like a really just society doesn't it?

Have you ever been to China?
I can assume the answer is a resounding NO.

You cannot judge present day China with our culture in the West - it is not in the same time frame.

I've beed there, seen it, done it & bought the T-shirt. It is just like any country in the world - if you have money it is a very pleasant place. The same rule applies here as well as any country in the world.

Open your eyes - there is a whole world out there past the blinkered borders of your mind.

OK thats me off my soapbox and we can return to regular programming

I have used ECS motherboards in the past and they have all been very reliable - no complaints from me as I type of my K7S5A system

 

[esquared]

Originally posted by: Oakenfold

I have to ship it back, eat shipping costs, and then wait a week and half for a refund

Is there an online store that will refund shipping costs on defective products?

Yep, Amazon.com. They include an RMA forms with their shipments.