ECC support on low-end consumer 1155 CPUs? ITX boards?

[VirtualLarry]

Since it seems like FM2 ITX with ECC support is a no-go, what about 1155 ITX boards and CPUs? I thought I had read that some i3s (and Celerons?) had ECC support enabled.
Would like to possibly purchase a rig like that for a mini-NAS.

 

[zir_blazer]

You may want to read this Thread.

 

[Sheep221]

Only Nehalems had ECC

 

[crashtech]

Intel DBS1200KPR

 

[bononos]

Since it seems like FM2 ITX with ECC support is a no-go, what about 1155 ITX boards and CPUs? I thought I had read that some i3s (and Celerons?) had ECC support enabled.
Would like to possibly purchase a rig like that for a mini-NAS.

The ivy i3s and a few celerons (officially supports ecc) with intel c20x mbs work together with ecc memory.
From this thread, SB i3s and celerons might be able to support ecc as well.

 

[Ayah]

i3-3220 supports it.
Even Intel says it does. (obviously previous generation 2120 does)

http://ark.intel.com/products/65693/

 

[Vesku]

Imo, look for the motherboard first

http://ark.intel.com/products/67346/

Then go with its compatibility list.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Ok, so there are NO ITX boards, that support ECC, and have six or more SATA ports.

Guess I'll just go with an ASRock FM2 after all.

 

[Vesku]

6+ is a lot of SATA ports for mini-itx. I can't find any ECC supporting board that would fit your needs. If you really want ECC though you could use a low profile PCIe SATA card with the Intel board I linked.

 

[crashtech]

mini-ITX, ECC, and 6 SATA ports? What else?

This comes with a low profile bracket. Other than that, yeah, µATX maybe.

 

[Ayah]

Ok, so there are NO ITX boards, that support ECC, and have six or more SATA ports.

Guess I'll just go with an ASRock FM2 after all.

Wrong.

http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/motherboard/Xeon/QM77/X9SPV-LN4F-3QE.cfm

mitx, supports ECC and has 6 SATA ports. Even has 4 NICs and one more for dedicated IPMI.

You're not going to like the price though. (assuming you're a consumer)

 

[VirtualLarry]

Wrong.

http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/motherboard/Xeon/QM77/X9SPV-LN4F-3QE.cfm

mitx, supports ECC and has 6 SATA ports. Even has 4 NICs and one more for dedicated IPMI.

You're not going to like the price though. (assuming you're a consumer)

That looks nice. Where can I get it, and is it cheaper than $300?

Uhh, yeah, that is just a little out of my price range.
https://www.provantage.com/supermicro-mbdx9spvln4f3leo~7SUPM3W8.htm

The idea was to have several, smaller, and presumably, lower-cost servers.

My other idea, is to get an ASRock Z87 Extreme11ac board, with 22 SATA ports, and put it in a Norco-4020 that I already own, and drop in a Haswell Xeon, and 32GB of DDR3 unbuffered ECC RAM.

 

[Ayah]

No chance in hell of <300. If you think of it as CPU = 300 and board = ~350, it isn't too ridiculous. It is extremely niche as it's mitx, ECC, 4 Intel NICs, Realtek IPMI NIC as well as a BGA form mobile IVB. The one I linked is quad-core too.

The series is surprisingly good for redundant firewalls.

Edit: Yeah, not low end, or even consumer but it does fulfill the requirements.

 

[sxr7171]

Wow that's crazy for a low budget home NAS build.

 

[Vesku]

One of those 3 options pick 2 situations.

Personally I'd go with the Intel S1200KPR + low profile SATA PCIe card like the StarTech crashtech linked.

 

[milee]

Check the newest gen HP Proliant Microserver. It comes with an IVY Celeron iirc, but you can upgrade to an E3 1220Lv2 if you need so. 5/(6*) SATAs also.

 

[Magic Carpet]

That looks nice. Where can I get it, and is it cheaper than $300?

Uhh, yeah, that is just a little out of my price range.
https://www.provantage.com/supermicro-mbdx9spvln4f3leo~7SUPM3W8.htm

The idea was to have several, smaller, and presumably, lower-cost servers.

My other idea, is to get an ASRock Z87 Extreme11ac board, with 22 SATA ports, and put it in a Norco-4020 that I already own, and drop in a Haswell Xeon, and 32GB of DDR3 unbuffered ECC RAM.

Just get an add-on card for more storage and pair it with anything you like

 

[_Rick_]

Will a Z87 board support ECC-RAM?
Last I heard that was only available on "C"-class server/workstation PCH based boards.
It might just be a validation or BIOS thing though. Still, the likelihood that someone mods the ASRock's BIOS to support ECC appears to be rather slim, even if it isn't an actual platform/physical limitation.

BTW: With the last two or generations of Intel CPUs with integrated graphics, you don't need a dedicated IPMI anymore - AMT 7.0 and onwards (which requires vPro, one of the compatible Intel LAN chips and the integrated GPU) you get a VNC server that (once configured) should "just work". Of course, getting any info on whether a specific board supports full AMT is a rather difficult task.

 

[pcunite]

Will a Z87 board support ECC-RAM?
Last I heard that was only available on "C"-class server/workstation PCH based boards.

No, Z87 is their "enthusiast" line which has historically meant no ECC. Lots of us are ready for that to change but will see. Enthusiast is often thought of as gamer or home user, while true, ECC has value for anyone using a modern computer.

 

[Magic Carpet]

ECC has value for anyone using a modern computer.

Unless your job is data, I don't see much value in it for most people.

 

[crashtech]

Unless your job is data, I don't see much value in it for most people.

It's also a palliative for OCD.

 

[pcunite]

Unless your job is data, I don't see much value in it for most people.

Bit rot over time means something to everyone. Everything we do is data.

 

[zir_blazer]

Unless your job is data, I don't see much value in it for most people.

I don't see why there are many people that says that someone else doesn't need ECC. You're just missing saying that "parity is for farmers".


For me, ECC is a tradeoff. Some more budget for RAM, that will be slighty slower, to reduce chances of a BSOD or data corruption caused by natural causes that is rare but possible to happen if I have tons of RAM and will have my machine turned on during long time periods. Why for anybody than that tradeoff makes sense, the other guys says "you don't need it"?

 

[crashtech]

Well, if the person understands what little they are getting for their extra money and performance reduction, so be it. It's just that it is a lot quicker to say they don't need it, which is true in the majority of cases. Silent disk corruption is a bigger problem than memory errors, and there isn't a good way to address it yet with SATA drives. So everyone who thinks they need ECC should also feel SAS RAID array to be mandatory as well.

 

[zir_blazer]

Well, if the person understands what little they are getting for their extra money and performance reduction, so be it. It's just that it is a lot quicker to say they don't need it, which is true in the majority of cases.

For me, the majority of people doesn't need to overclock because a new, modern machine is overkill for the vast majority of task, yet people still spend more on bigger Motherboards, Power Supplies, unlocked Processors, aftermarket cooling, etc, just to do it. I don't see where is the problem that some people values stability enough to consider ECC. Maybe stability is not fashion enough to showcase it, hum...

Silent disk corruption is a bigger problem than memory errors, and there isn't a good way to address it yet with SATA drives.

Or you can use ZFS File System.