Ebert and Roeper give "Better luck tommrow" two thumbs up! AKA that asian movie haha:) 100% cream fo the crop!

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Gonna see it this weekend.. Probably Sunday, cause thats the day the cast members are gonna be down here at either the Block or the Spectrum.. :)
 

Dragnov

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This move is as stereotypical as you can get. And now instead of kung-fu asians w/ got asian american gangsters. Another sterotype thats growing and popular. Yay.

I hate this hooplah of it being "Asian-American." Hell every ethnic group has their nuances, this is nothign special.

Making an ALL asian-american movie in reaction to a primarily white dominated movie industry does nothing but enforce even further divisions. If they truly want to promote asian americans and racial equality, they should set the example instead of making it exclusive as it is.

I for one, hate these type of movies. I think they make things worse than better.
 

Marshallj

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Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
This move is as stereotypical as you can get. And now instead of kung-fu asians w/ got asian american gangsters. Another sterotype thats growing and popular. Yay.

I hate this hooplah of it being "Asian-American." Hell every ethnic group has their nuances, this is nothign special.

Making an ALL asian-american movie in reaction to a primarily white dominated movie industry does nothing but enforce even further divisions. If they truly want to promote asian americans and racial equality, they should set the example instead of making it exclusive as it is.

I for one, hate these type of movies. I think they make things worse than better.


I agree. Different groups complain about the behavior of other groups, yet do the same exact thing.
 

dafatha00

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Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
This move is as stereotypical as you can get. And now instead of kung-fu asians w/ got asian american gangsters. Another sterotype thats growing and popular. Yay.

I hate this hooplah of it being "Asian-American." Hell every ethnic group has their nuances, this is nothign special.

Making an ALL asian-american movie in reaction to a primarily white dominated movie industry does nothing but enforce even further divisions. If they truly want to promote asian americans and racial equality, they should set the example instead of making it exclusive as it is.

I for one, hate these type of movies. I think they make things worse than better.

Did you even watch the movie? In case you didn't know, this movie was based upon a true story. Its about half a page down. Stuart Tay murder

First of all, asian gangsters are not a stereotype at all because most people consider asians to be quiet and soft-spoken. Take a look at the asians around you. Are most of them gangsters to you? Sure there are bad apples here and there but the majority of asians are NOT. I would hardly imagine that anyone could claim that to be a stereotype. No matter. Regardless of whether or not the idea for the film was a good one, the fact is, this movie represents a breakthrough in asian americans participating in the film industry. And that in itself should be a good sign.

I have not yet watched this movie but I will be doing so tomorrow. And I would advise you to do the same before commenting on whether or not it is a good movie.
 

Looney

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Making an ALL asian-american movie in reaction to a primarily white dominated movie industry does nothing but enforce even further divisions. If they truly want to promote asian americans and racial equality, they should set the example instead of making it exclusive as it is.

Why does racial equality necessarily equal racial uniformity? Why can't people celebrate or identify with their culture and differences? Up here in Canada, we encourage diversity, not try to fit everybody into the 'Canadian' mold. Hell, because of this, it'll be difficult for a typical Canadian to define what being a Canadian is... most will include some sort of 'cultural diversity' within the definition i bet.
 

azncoffeeboi

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Dude, that movie is about the highschool I go to now... haha...

How weird, dont ya think?

Yes we do have lots of asian "gangsters" here... =)
 

AznMaverick

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Originally posted by: dafatha00
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
This move is as stereotypical as you can get. And now instead of kung-fu asians w/ got asian american gangsters. Another sterotype thats growing and popular. Yay.

I hate this hooplah of it being "Asian-American." Hell every ethnic group has their nuances, this is nothign special.

Making an ALL asian-american movie in reaction to a primarily white dominated movie industry does nothing but enforce even further divisions. If they truly want to promote asian americans and racial equality, they should set the example instead of making it exclusive as it is.

I for one, hate these type of movies. I think they make things worse than better.

Did you even watch the movie? In case you didn't know, this movie was based upon a true story. Its about half a page down. Stuart Tay murder

First of all, asian gangsters are not a stereotype at all because most people consider asians to be quiet and soft-spoken. Take a look at the asians around you. Are most of them gangsters to you? Sure there are bad apples here and there but the majority of asians are NOT. I would hardly imagine that anyone could claim that to be a stereotype. No matter. Regardless of whether or not the idea for the film was a good one, the fact is, this movie represents a breakthrough in asian americans participating in the film industry. And that in itself should be a good sign.

I have not yet watched this movie but I will be doing so tomorrow. And I would advise you to do the same before commenting on whether or not it is a good movie.

i agree with you.
 

777php

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I just came back from the movie tonight and I have mixed feelings about it. I don't think that some of the characters were developed very well and the ending left much to be desired. However, the movie did have its merits which I won't get into for the sake of those who are planning to see the movie.
 

Deeko

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big fvcking deal. Do I make a big deal when a fvcking "white" movie gets a good review? Dumbass.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Deeko
big fvcking deal. Do I make a big deal when a fvcking "white" movie gets a good review? Dumbass.

So? Does it make it any less worthy because it's about Asians?
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Deeko
big fvcking deal. Do I make a big deal when a fvcking "white" movie gets a good review? Dumbass.

So? Does it make it any less worthy because it's about Asians?

No. People make a big deal of it because its got alot of asian people in it. so what.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Deeko
big fvcking deal. Do I make a big deal when a fvcking "white" movie gets a good review? Dumbass.

So? Does it make it any less worthy because it's about Asians?

that's exactly my point. it should be a good movie because its a good movie, not "oh its a good movie AND its asian", dumbasses are creating more racial inequity by doing sh!t like that
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Deeko
big fvcking deal. Do I make a big deal when a fvcking "white" movie gets a good review? Dumbass.

So? Does it make it any less worthy because it's about Asians?

that's exactly my point. it should be a good movie because its a good movie, not "oh its a good movie AND its asian", dumbasses are creating more racial inequity by doing sh!t like that

No it's not. Asian people make a good % of the population, but how represented are they in the media? It really is amazing when Hollywood makes an Asian movie, because they're so under-represented. BTW, this movie was shown in HK and China months ago.
 

777php

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Nobody said anything about the movie being overtly Asian. If you watch the commercials or visit the website it does not promote it as being specifically an Asian movie.

With that being said, I don't think people are saying that it is a special movie solely because of the Asian cast and directing but of how the movie investigates the Asian American stereotypes. The fact that the movie focuses on Asian Americans is important and to minimalize it to being just a regular movie with a typical cast and crew would be a mistake and not do justice to the movie's true intent.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Deeko
big fvcking deal. Do I make a big deal when a fvcking "white" movie gets a good review? Dumbass.

So? Does it make it any less worthy because it's about Asians?


its a big deal because they don't know kung fu!! :)
 

prodigy

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Originally posted by: Deeko
big fvcking deal. Do I make a big deal when a fvcking "white" movie gets a good review? Dumbass.

It's just another ATOT movie thread, there's plenty of them.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Deeko
big fvcking deal. Do I make a big deal when a fvcking "white" movie gets a good review? Dumbass.

So? Does it make it any less worthy because it's about Asians?

that's exactly my point. it should be a good movie because its a good movie, not "oh its a good movie AND its asian", dumbasses are creating more racial inequity by doing sh!t like that

No it's not. Asian people make a good % of the population, but how represented are they in the media? It really is amazing when Hollywood makes an Asian movie, because they're so under-represented. BTW, this movie was shown in HK and China months ago.

"Hollywood" did not make this movie. It was an independent film that did well at Sundance and MTV decided to buy it and distribute it with Paramount.

Pretty much what happened is that someone made a quality film with a large Asian cast that didn't include kung-fu or anime and could be liked by the general population. That's what MTV is hoping will happen anyway.
 

FeathersMcGraw

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Originally posted by: Deeko

No. People make a big deal of it because its got alot of asian people in it. so what.

What was the last movie with any significant Asian cast that wasn't related to martial arts? Anna and the King? Mulan? The Joy Luck Club?

It's fine and well to say that movies should be good movies and that should be that, but until a wider variety of roles can be established for Asians (particularly male actors), they're going to be pigeonholed into chop-socky action roles.