EA announces a subscription service for Xbox One

[smackababy]

You are paying a subscription for the entire game for older games. The demo portion is a few days before a new game comes out and the service lets you try (the full game) early and you can decide to buy it when it releases.

And, this subscription isn't just about games in the vault, it is also offering a 10% discount on all EA products and services bought using it.

 

[Bman123]

PS+ was basically the same thing when we only had the ps3. You paid to get older games and arcade games that Sony chose to release for free. I know EA mainly does sports games but they do make other stuff

If titanfall would of been in the vault this conversation would of been totally different. They didn't say how or what games they'll put in the vault. We just have to see what happens

 

[cmdrdredd]

There are very few EA products I even care about at this point and absolutely zero services and DLC. I am done with battlefield after they botched 4 pretty badly. I am eyeing dragon age inquisition and looking down the line from there to a possible mass effect 4 and whatever happens with star wars from them. I am not a fan of their sports games really at all. FIFA is good but only because it has a world cup mode.

I really wonder if there is enough there to get people to sign up. I don't see it...but who knows.

 

[sze5003]

You are paying a subscription for the entire game for older games. The demo portion is a few days before a new game comes out and the service lets you try (the full game) early and you can decide to buy it when it releases.

And, this subscription isn't just about games in the vault, it is also offering a 10% discount on all EA products and services bought using it.

Ok that makes more sense. I still would not use it but that's just me. I know lots of people who buy every sport game version, don't know why, but they do so it could help them out. I prefer to trade my discs in.

After some time, those year old sport games will be cheap in the store. So unless the service makes them the same price I don't see an incentive. The 10% could help for new games if you buy a lot of EA games.


Also I believe hard line got delayed so it won't be out in October anyway.

 

[smackababy]

FIFA is good but only because it has a world cup mode.

You sir, have obviously not experienced Fifa Ultimate Team! There is no better feeling than having a squad with Pele, Ibra, and James. Although, I wouldn't know that feeling. =( I have to stick with Muller, Robben, Reus pace cheese.

Also I believe hard line got delayed so it won't be out in October anyway.

They pushed it back to 2015 sometime. It is rumored it was due to the poor beta reception, but the official reason was along the lines of they needed more time to complete it or something.

 

[cmdrdredd]

You sir, have obviously not experienced Fifa Ultimate Team! There is no better feeling than having a squad with Pele, Ibra, and James. Although, I wouldn't know that feeling. =( I have to stick with Muller, Robben, Reus pace cheese.



They pushed it back to 2015 sometime. It is rumored it was due to the poor beta reception, but the official reason was along the lines of they needed more time to complete it or something.

No desire to hunt packs of cards hoping to build a team with rare cards...sorry.

 

[Bman123]

You sir, have obviously not experienced Fifa Ultimate Team! There is no better feeling than having a squad with Pele, Ibra, and James. Although, I wouldn't know that feeling. =( I have to stick with Muller, Robben, Reus pace cheese.



They pushed it back to 2015 sometime. It is rumored it was due to the poor beta reception, but the official reason was along the lines of they needed more time to complete it or something.

Battlefield hardline was terrible. I did the beta and it should be a dlc pack not a stand alone game. $60 for cops n robbers? No thanks I'll stick with BF4 and save my money

 

[cmdrdredd]

The poor beta reception was probably because of it releasing along side Destiny Alpha.

 

[Bman123]

People liked destiny better, its a better game then hardline

 

[smackababy]

No desire to hunt packs of cards hoping to build a team with rare cards...sorry.

Eh, as a big fan of TCGs, that doesn't bother me. And, you don't really have to open packs. You can easily win coins and just buy the players on the transfer market. Although, packs are a lot more fun. =)

 

[cmdrdredd]

Found this post on NeoGAF and it made me laugh. Don't take it seriously guys just read it and see what they are getting at. It's made to be comical. Too many subscription services splintering our content can be bad, very bad.

Then in 2015 you have:

PS+ $5 a month
Ubisoft Uberservice $6 a month
EA Access $9 a month (price rise)
EA Online Access $5 a month (online play for EA titles)
Activision COD Pass $10 a month
Activision Destiny Pass $12 a month
Activision Do we make other games? Probably Pass $7 a month
Square Us too Pass $40 a month, $20 extra for games.

And so on.

Personally I'm happy for it to be all under one umbrella, that you have to pay anyway to pay online. Otherwise things could get stupid very fast... and lets face it, with these companies involved you know that it will.

 

[Maximilian]

Herp a derp thats a good deal! From EA who brought you this :biggrin:

Such short memories.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Herp a derp thats a good deal! From EA who brought you this :biggrin:

Such short memories.

I can't wait to see how much content is ripped out of a game and available for subscribers only. Plus EA can cut out the console manufacturer this way as well. This can be the equivalent of putting Origin on XBL to me. Where now instead of going through MS to get games, you buy from EA directly (small kickbacks to MS likely for the usage of XBL) and less revenue goes to the console manufacturer for their storefront. This is my feeling as to why it's not on PS4 as well. Sony doesn't want anything in the way of a simple click on Playstation Store to find games to play. And doesn't want any interruptions to the profitability of PS+ (many subscribe for the free titles given away). If EA has their own service, they can simply deny their games be offered free in the future and put them on their subscription service. It's my opinion wrong or right that MS decided to allow this in hopes people see this as a way to get sports games without having to buy them outright and boost sales a bit if there turns out to be a lot of people who want it.

Supposedly, according to neoGAF you need EA Access AND XBL Gold to play games online purchased off EA Access so once you buy a 10% discounted game, you're locked into keeping the service going if you want to play online.

I can see why people might want this now, but I fear for the future of this thing. I thought about it a bit and it seems like EA has an angle they are moving toward and this is the first step.

 

[TeknoBug]

Pretty soon we'll have to pay a monthly fee just to breathe air.

Oh and that screenshot reminds me of Candy Crush Saga, people raved about it, I downloaded it and then I couldn't advance any further while a pop up said "share with your Facebook friends to continue"... I have no FB account so I deleted it. LOL

 

[Lil Frier]

Found this post on NeoGAF and it made me laugh. Don't take it seriously guys just read it and see what they are getting at. It's made to be comical. Too many subscription services splintering our content can be bad, very bad.

I know it's meant to be a joke, but to an extent, the points are just dumb. Even if it was $10/month with EA (or $50/year), it would be plenty worth it if they made the game lineup fairly-current (add a game within 6 months of release, maybe). Yeah, the digital and subscription stuff could be a bit bothersome (forgetting when the money comes out of your account, for example), but it could be an overall money-saving option.

Again, that is dependent on who all participates and which games get added. If Ubisoft went with $50/year and access to all games, it might be OK. However, if they started taking forever to release non-AC games, it could lose its value quickly, because of release droughts.

We'll see. I have some faith that this is a concept that could work, but I also have no faith that EA can do something right, so it seems I'm at an impasse on my opinion of this.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I know it's meant to be a joke, but to an extent, the points are just dumb. Even if it was $10/month with EA (or $50/year), it would be plenty worth it if they made the game lineup fairly-current (add a game within 6 months of release, maybe). Yeah, the digital and subscription stuff could be a bit bothersome (forgetting when the money comes out of your account, for example), but it could be an overall money-saving option.

Again, that is dependent on who all participates and which games get added. If Ubisoft went with $50/year and access to all games, it might be OK. However, if they started taking forever to release non-AC games, it could lose its value quickly, because of release droughts.

We'll see. I have some faith that this is a concept that could work, but I also have no faith that EA can do something right, so it seems I'm at an impasse on my opinion of this.

I just fear that certain things may happen in the future like they start locking content out for non subscribers, remove game demos from the console storefront and put them on their subscription service as 2 hour full game trials(which means you are paying for a demo).

 

[sze5003]

How does a full game demo work anyway? You select a day or two to try it?

I feel like they will soon require other things as part of the games bought with this service. I don't know if they are going to keep the games on there forever. If they take them off, what happens?

 

[cmdrdredd]

How does a full game demo work anyway? You select a day or two to try it?

I feel like they will soon require other things as part of the games bought with this service. I don't know if they are going to keep the games on there forever. If they take them off, what happens?

you get it for a couple hours then it locks. They say they have no plans to remove games in the vault service but you will not be able to download them forever, they will remain in your library if you already have them though.

 

[Bman123]

That's the problem right there. EA will nickle and dime your ass left and right for content you should get when you buy the game.

We need a company like steam for consoles. The problem is the console people are to accustomed to selling the games whenever they like, going digital is going to be a huge hassle. Steam works great for PC, I just wish we could get something similar for consoles.

It will have to start with subscription services tho. People don't like the idea of buying something and not being able to get rid of it on console. So someone (EA) comes up with this great idea where you basically rent the games. Its basically Netflix for Xbox one, you get what we give you and you pay monthly or yearly for it.

Sad thing is EA is too greedy and they shouldn't of been the company that started this. I don't see this working out

 

[sze5003]

you get it for a couple hours then it locks. They say they have no plans to remove games in the vault service but you will not be able to download them forever, they will remain in your library if you already have them though.

Yea I don't like that. If they remove games and you delete it off your system then you don't own it anymore essentially. Does this happen with steam too? I've never bought really old games on steam so I never experienced this.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yea I don't like that. If they remove games and you delete it off your system then you don't own it anymore essentially. Does this happen with steam too? I've never bought really old games on steam so I never experienced this.

I don't know about EAA but on Steam you can download it again forever. At least as long as it's still on there.

 

[blurredvision]

ITT: People predicting the future in order to hate on a new service.

 

[cmdrdredd]

ITT: People predicting the future in order to hate on a new service.

Cause EA has one of, if not the absolute worst track record in the industry regarding being a greedy SOB and doing everything they can to piss off consumers. From origin to online pass.

It's their own fault people don't like them, don't trust them, and don't like their games. I'm watching some of their upcoming releases but I don't trust them any further than I can spit.

 

[Lil Frier]

Agreed, this isn't paranoia for paranoia's sake. EA's given customers reasons galore to be skeptical of the long-term quality of this service, and we're basically just thinking about the negatives EA is most-likely to pull off.

My decision is to wait until the new sports games launch, I think. If they've added just one 2015 sports title to the lineup, I'll go for it when it's launched. If they instead launch it in something like 2 months with just those 4 games still present, I'll pass until they show it's a worthwhile investment.

However, I'll constantly watch their potentially-changing policies and be ready to drop the service (and again boycott all EA purchases for years after) without hesitation. Right now, the biggest hurdle is Origin though. They're pointlessly tying that into their online console games as it is, and I have held out this whole time without getting an Origin account (even turning down a free copy of BF4 on PC because I didn't want to go to Origin for it).

We'll see. This has potential, but EA sucks every time, so I'm hopeful, but not optimistic.

 

[cmdrdredd]

To be fair, on console there is no obligation to go through origin. Just create an ID. On PC they force you to install it and keep it running while you play and in the past it would skim through your HDD looking for games you have and send that info to EA supposedly so they could target ads to you. There is now an opt out in the settings. The feeling among many is that they shouldn't have done that in the first place, like online pass. It just leaves a bad taste.