E8400, Stock HSF, and a few questions.

[CreasianDevaili]

Hello all,

I will try and be to the point and short. Hope i can get some opinions here..

I am building a new system. This will remain stock for the next 2 months due to no way to replace anything I have in it. I plan to game, and as such tried to go with good cooling..

e8400 w/stock HSF
Gigabyte x38-DS4
2x1 XMS2 DDR2-800
8800GT OC <factory oc'ed>
Cooler Master CM 690 with 6 120mm fans <4 will be on sunbeam 4 fan controller>
SILVERSTONE SST-ST56ZF <From old build>


As i said, all stock, and wondering with optimal air flow if I will be "okay" with the E8400. I dont want to run near the border, and This is my first intel build since the Pentium 3. I have build the pentium 3, the AMD Thunderbird, and AM2 builds and I have always been pretty detail oriented. I can mod, and I take my time to have a clean case.

With the setup, do you all feel my load temps during gaming sessions will be okay? Games such as everquest 2, which is rather cpu taxing, at 1280x1024 resolution.

Be blunt with me. I am not changing my mind until i can do it RIGHT. I canot afford to do it any more costly than I already have. So my WILL remain stock settings on ALL components for a few months.


I appreciate anyone who can tell me what to expect, and their thoughts on heat being a stability problem, and what I might need to change and/or add to be safe within reason.


Thank you to all that reply

 

[DerwenArtos12]

I take it you mean a Cooler Master CM 690?

On all stock settings I don't see any real problems. What kind of ambient(room) temps are you going to be working with?

 

[CreasianDevaili]

Well, I am in the middle of winter in ohio so pretty darn cold. My 3800+ new Orleans <single core> runs around 36c with listening to music, web surfing, and the like. That is with the stock amd hsf, and a cent 5 with 1 intake and 1 outtake fan with the side on. Havent tested it yet when i game, least not recently enough to remember.

Typically I keep the room 23-28c or so year round. That is for peak summer. The AC is right near my PC table so the pc always gets a nice inflow of cool air.

But the hsf would be replaced before the cool spring even began to get hot. Thinking near the latter half of march at the latest maybe.


and yes.. the cm690.. its late.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: CreasianDevaili
Well, I am in the middle of winter in ohio so pretty darn cold. My 3800+ new Orleans <single core> runs around 36c with listening to music, web surfing, and the like. That is with the stock amd hsf, and a cent 5 with 1 intake and 1 outtake fan with the side on. Havent tested it yet when i game, least not recently enough to remember.

Typically I keep the room 23-28c or so year round. That is for peak summer. The AC is right near my PC table so the pc always gets a nice inflow of cool air.

But the hsf would be replaced before the cool spring even began to get hot. Thinking near the latter half of march at the latest maybe.


and yes.. the cm690.. its late.

I can almost certainly say you'll be quite fine, the E8400 has a copper core within the standard design aluminum heatsink and is a decent heatsink for non overclocked performance and noise.

 

[Ika]

I thought the stock E8400 was crappy compared to my original Conroe stock fan (though I suppose it could be a case of my memory failing me once again). When I picked up the retail E8400 box my friend had, at first I didn't believe there was a heatsink inside - the box was too damn light! Upon inspection there was indeed a heatsink inside, though I'm pretty sure it's shorter than the Conroe stock fans - almost low-profile. I haven't been able to compare stock fans for the E8400 directly against a Conroe fan, so I guess this post won't be of much help... but let it be known that I do not like the Wolfdale stock fans

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: Aflac
I thought the stock E8400 was crappy compared to my original Conroe stock fan (though I suppose it could be a case of my memory failing me once again). When I picked up the retail E8400 box my friend had, at first I didn't believe there was a heatsink inside - the box was too damn light! Upon inspection there was indeed a heatsink inside, though I'm pretty sure it's shorter than the Conroe stock fans - almost low-profile. I haven't been able to compare stock fans for the E8400 directly against a Conroe fan, so I guess this post won't be of much help... but let it be known that I do not like the Wolfdale stock fans

the fans are identical but the heatsinks themselves are lower profile. I was under the impression that the 8x00 series would have the copper core but, I could be mistaken as intel likes to change little things around at the last minute.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Aflac
I thought the stock E8400 was crappy compared to my original Conroe stock fan (though I suppose it could be a case of my memory failing me once again). When I picked up the retail E8400 box my friend had, at first I didn't believe there was a heatsink inside - the box was too damn light! Upon inspection there was indeed a heatsink inside, though I'm pretty sure it's shorter than the Conroe stock fans - almost low-profile. I haven't been able to compare stock fans for the E8400 directly against a Conroe fan, so I guess this post won't be of much help... but let it be known that I do not like the Wolfdale stock fans

the fans are identical but the heatsinks themselves are lower profile. I was under the impression that the 8x00 series would have the copper core but, I could be mistaken as intel likes to change little things around at the last minute.

yea its all aluminum, the stock fan will be fine at stock settings

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

Originally posted by: Aflac
I thought the stock E8400 was crappy compared to my original Conroe stock fan (though I suppose it could be a case of my memory failing me once again). When I picked up the retail E8400 box my friend had, at first I didn't believe there was a heatsink inside - the box was too damn light! Upon inspection there was indeed a heatsink inside, though I'm pretty sure it's shorter than the Conroe stock fans - almost low-profile. I haven't been able to compare stock fans for the E8400 directly against a Conroe fan, so I guess this post won't be of much help... but let it be known that I do not like the Wolfdale stock fans

the fans are identical but the heatsinks themselves are lower profile. I was under the impression that the 8x00 series would have the copper core but, I could be mistaken as intel likes to change little things around at the last minute.

yea its all aluminum, the stock fan will be fine at stock settings

I hate it when they pull a switcheroo, are they gonna just horde the copper cores for the q9's now?

 

[Ika]

Well, onto the topic of discussion - despite the new "suckiness" of the new stock heatsinks, they will be fine for stock usage. Otherwise, Intel wouldn't include them in the retail box... right?

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: Aflac
Well, onto the topic of discussion - despite the new "suckiness" of the new stock heatsinks, they will be fine for stock usage. Otherwise, Intel wouldn't include them in the retail box... right?

exactly, if you've got ambients below about 30C and you're not going to overclock there is really no reason to buy an aftermarket heatsink unless the stock one is too loud.