E7200 VID?

cbolt67

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What info can you get form looking at the processor in the box? I see where VID is important for OCing, but I believe you have to have the processor in a system and use a utility to read it. Is there any useful info on the box? Haven't dealt with Intel for years. AMD processors have stepping info etc on the chip.
 

Tempered81

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if it's a 7200, you're pretty much set because stepping and VID isn't going to make that big of a difference. They are all of a mediocre binning in the E7xxx series. You will be lucky to get more than 4000mhz with less than 1.40v actual. Still it's an excellent deal at $79. You can see the s-Spec code on the box, pack date, batch code, upc/bar code & other information.
E7200 box:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080429/box.jpg
 

cbolt67

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Appreciate the quick reply. I'm thinking about getting one so I was curious what info I could garner from the box at the store. I'm hoping I could get one and run it at 400MHz. seems like that might be asking a bit much at reasonable Vcore levels.
 

mancunian

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Originally posted by: cbolt67
3.8 is all I'm hoping for. Seems like a lot of folks can't attain that.

I think the earlier steppings had a good chance at that, the later ones don't seem to.
 

cbolt67

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So how can i determine the stepping short of having it in a system and running a utility to check it? Any post out there on that and which steppings are better?
 

cbolt67

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Well I'll just roll the dice. Microcenter here in Dallas has one for $99. I have a DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS to drop it in. OCing is always a crapshoot anyway.
 

Zap

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WTF 3.6GHz is a "crappy" OC these days? Not very demanding, are we? :roll:

Anyways, maybe Intel is binning chips these days, since faster E7xxx have been released?
 

cbolt67

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Originally posted by: Zap
WTF 3.6GHz is a "crappy" OC these days? Not very demanding, are we? :roll:

Anyways, maybe Intel is binning chips these days, since faster E7xxx have been released?

Well I didn't mean to imply that 3.6 is "crappy". I was just saying OCing "is a crapshoot". In other words one might get 3.4 or 4.0 Only way to find out is to "roll the dice" and see what you can get that little piece of silicon to do. But i want 3.8 or higher :) So I was trying to see if I could find out VID, stepping, etc before I purchased.
 

Tempered81

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i always felt that i could push mine until something blew up or started smoking. After seeing screenshots of 2.1 volts on the Vcore & the chip at 6000mhz or shots of 98C core temperatures i thought my 1.4v, 4.2ghz, 74C was nothing really. Just watch out for everyone's accepted limitations on speed, voltage, and heat. Well voltage & heat mostly because you want as much "speed" as possible.

Stay below 75C on a TJmax of 100C, and stay below 1.400v Vcore actual in cpu-z. If you follow those two guidelines, then you can push the speed as high as it will go. Of course, the lower your temps & volts, the better off you CPU will be, and the longer it will live. I'm really interested to see how people fry these things. From what i've read VTT is a major culprit for cpu-death.
 

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I'm really not liking all this negative talk about E7200 overclocks (considering that mine is coming next week).

Anyway, I'm still shooting for a minimum 4GHz. 4000MHz is really a magic number, is it not?
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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I can get 3.7 on rated 'stock' actual volts- so not what my motherboard sets stock to, and after dealing w/ vdroop- simply making sure what cpuz and others read matches intel docs. For me, that means setting the mobo to 1.2V.
I haven't been able to go much higher because I am still on the stock fan. What I have been able to do is on my e7200 I got as clearance at microcenter- some dope returned it for some reason- I'm inclined to think it was temps they saw when oc'ing... but having only that 30-day warranty, my conscience is clear to let me lap the IHS w/o losing safety of a warranty. I can run stock speeds, 24/7 orthos/prime stable @ .92V in bios. Some processors behave well thermally, others respond well to voltage. I'm hoping to mitigate my processors poor thermal performance by using a better hsf, and possibly lapping. If it weren't a wolfdale, I'd go so far as to remove the IHS. Coretemp reports my vid as fluttering betwenn 1.15 and 1.2V fyi
 

Tempered81

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Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
Some processors behave well thermally, others respond well to voltage. I'm hoping to mitigate my processors poor thermal performance by using a better hsf, and possibly lapping.

so true
 

cbolt67

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I'll see if I can get an answer to another question here. If I opt for an E8400 would the "pack dat" on the box help me get an EO stepping?
 

Tempered81

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yeah possibly - if it's a very recent pack date (last 2 months), it's likely to be an E0, if it's packed before mid to late july it's 99% chance a C0

but! - hehhehe - If you can see the pack date somehow, then you are looking at the label, and you can see the s-Spec, therefore determining the stepping right on the box.

 

disports

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The E0 stepping E8400's have a smaller box and say SLB9J on it if I remember correctly. But that still doesn't guarantee you'll reach 4.0 GHz. You may or may not get a good chip regardless.
 

cbolt67

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Well I'm going down to the local Microcenter and see what I can do. How does one read the s-Spec? I see it on the box.