E6300 still a fast CPU now and 1-2 years from now?

[tigersty1e]

If you look at my sig, you can see I have an E6300. I was planning on rebuilding after the Intel price cuts but was maybe thinking of bringing the E6300 to the new rig.

So I was hoping to get the new rig with an 8800 GTS640MB, or GTX, or 2900 XT.

If I overclock the e6300 to 2.5 GHZ, will the CPU be a bottleneck for the whole system?

 

[apoppin]

E6300 still a fast CPU now and 1-2 years from now?

i don't think so ... and it is my strongly-held personal opinion that QuadCore is going to sweep away DualCore within 2 years

from my testing with HD2900xt, i *need* to OC my e4300 to about 2.5Ghz to completely remove the bottleneck ... you should be fine, even with a GTX ... and i am getting a GTS 640 OC Friday to do further "in house testing" of HD2900xt vs. GTS/X for the Video forum this weekend

you DO realize that you are stuck with a 4X AGP slot in that ASrock that will *kill* the GTX [and possibly] the 2900xt's bandwith ... you NEED 16x pciE for anything over a x1950p [never-mind the fact that you cannot adjust the voltage either for a higher OC in that MB]

edit: in other words, when you upgrade your GPU, make sure you upgrade your MB ... something like i have - that is also for the future 45nm QC CPUs if you DO decide later to easily upgrade

 

[xsilver]

please be aware that the 8800 series cards do not actually work on the asrock 4coredual vsta motherboards

 

[harpoon84]

If you can get the E6300 to 3GHz or more, you should be good to go for the next 1 - 2 years. Of course, faster chips will come out during that time, but a C2D @ 3GHz should be more than capable of taking current generation 8800GTX cards as well as next gen DX10 cards. Beyond that, who knows.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: xsilver
please be aware that the 8800 series cards do not actually work on the asrock 4coredual vsta motherboards

are you sure? ... i thought they updated their list to include them
--at any rate the 4x PCIe slot is a holdback

 

[MarcVenice]

4x might be, 8x isn't really, not for 8800gts's. Reviews where the p5n-e sli got tested which has dual pci-e 8x slots for sli, versus strikers and other mobo's with dual pci-e 16x slots, didn't show any significant difference in performance between two identical systems, save for the pci-e slots bandwith.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
4x might be, 8x isn't really, not for 8800gts's. Reviews where the p5n-e sli got tested which has dual pci-e 8x slots for sli, versus strikers and other mobo's with dual pci-e 16x slots, didn't show any significant difference in performance between two identical systems, save for the pci-e slots bandwith.

4x is - now ... with the 8800/2900 series - a crippler .. and we are not just talking gaming performance
-it isn't so bad when you are using your 2nd slot for xfire

 

[nyker96]

I think 1.5 years is mostly the life span since this thing is already 9 months old. But by 1.5-2 years I think 4-core will be the norm for top end. this will be about budget//lower end.

 

[tigersty1e]

Originally posted by: tigersty1e
but was maybe thinking of bringing the E6300 to the new rig

Only the E6300 would be transferring to the new build. I'm not sure what exactly the other components would be, but the video card would be what I said in my OP and the motherboard would be able to handle 2.5 GHZ with 1:1 ram and 16x pcie. Probably 3+GHZ on air but I'm not assuming anything.

I'm thinking this might be the better option and save the 200 for a better chip 1-2 years later.


I would put my old P4 chip into my current rig for useless tasks.

 

[apoppin]

sounds good ... my only additional suggestion is to make SURE you are able to upgrade to Penryn ... i know my MB supports it .. and i went the same way you did via ASrock MB with P4ee/x1950p agp ... i wasted a bit of money [i never count my time ... i 'learn' from every build] ... but got where i want to be now ... well, almost ... i am looking for QC this Fall ... my OC'd e4300 is a 'placeholder' for it

just don't stick a GTX in that ASrock ... except for testing or "short term" .. i am thinking from what i gather that 8xAGP is approx equal to 4xPCIe

 

[drakore]

e6300 OC'd will be fine for a while. I dont know what you would want to change cpus to, but for the love of god please dont get a quad if you're gaming.

 

[aurareturn]

Supreme Commander says otherwise.

 

[tigersty1e]

Originally posted by: drakore
e6300 OC'd will be fine for a while. I dont know what you would want to change cpus to, but for the love of god please dont get a quad if you're gaming.

Why?

First time I've heard of it.

 

[drakore]

If you can show me one game optimized for a quad then get one. You are looking quite a while down the line.

At the end of the day even if you do get a quad the performance difference won't be that much worse than a 3 ghz cpu. ultimately it depends on budget and how long you keep pcs for

 

[f4phantom2500]

drakore's saying to get a DC for games because they OC better than quads and most games don't take advantage of quads so, generally, a dual will be better for gaming since it can OC higher.

 

[firewolfsm]

But you can't run Folding@Home while gaming with a dual can you?

 

[apcalypseone]

Guys the E6300 can still survive for another 2 years....If my 939 3200+ is still not lagging anywhere as i am playing NFS:Carbon and many more with everything maxed with 2XAA & 8X AF,well sometimes i feel its lagging but its 1 Gb RAM or may be my 6800 GS but not the processor.Although there will be a lot of change within next 2 years and absolutely the Quad Cores will take place of Dual Cores but there might be something else also.....8 cores!....16 core! Who knows...but one thing for sure ur 6300 will sure survive long!!!!!!!!

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: apoppin
sounds good ... my only additional suggestion is to make SURE you are able to upgrade to Penryn ... i know my MB supports it .. and i went the same way you did via ASrock MB with P4ee/x1950p agp ... i wasted a bit of money [i never count my time ... i 'learn' from every build] ... but got where i want to be now ... well, almost ... i am looking for QC this Fall ... my OC'd e4300 is a 'placeholder' for it

just don't stick a GTX in that ASrock ... except for testing or "short term" .. i am thinking from what i gather that 8xAGP is approx equal to 4xPCIe

From what I've read....
AGP 8x is 2-5% faster than PCIe 4x.
PCIe 16x is a whole different ball game though...

 

[Cheex]

@ OP: I have an E6300 and I think I'll would be good to go for another 2 years but I personally just love upgrading (if I have the money)...:thumbsup: