E4300 looks like an excellent chip for OCing ...

[nyker96]

Just read something about the E4300, 800FSB//1.8Ghz. This lower FSB higher multiplier looks like a pretty good way to push this chip past 100% OC. It's default FSB is 200, Current board can easily do 400+ FSB. This would mean an easy OC to 3.6+. Sounds very OC friendly.

What do you guys think?

 

[Duvie]

There is still no gaurantee of 3.6ghz so be careful...Never easy though it sounds good....

Does this chip have the same cache as the E6300 and E6400? What is its projected cost?

 

[nyker96]

true, but we can all dream of a white Xmas ... yes, I believe they are equivalent to E6300/6400. except they are not a cache disabled version of E6600/6700 models but a genuine 2MB cached core design. This should make them cheaper to produce as well. The new I read say it's gonna be selling at 150 price point.

 

[Duvie]

May also be cooler running chips....

 

[acegazda]

When are they being released?

 

[Avalon]

They're still scheduled for early Q1 2007, as I haven't heard anything different.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Discussed more here

 

[nyker96]

The best part is at 3.6 you can run DDR2-800 rams, so this is a excellent match.

 

[Furen]

Personally, I don't think it's cheap enough. It will be great for motherboards that can't reach over 400MHz on the FSB but it lacks VT and is only like 10% cheaper than the E6300. Not to mention that its still not out. 3.6GHz is an optimistic goal for Conroes, especially with air cooling and a cheap motherboard, and I doubt Allendale will change this.

 

[nyker96]

It might be cheaper still in 6 months time, might even drop to 100-120s. That will be priced to move even if it ain't able to reach 3.6. However, with that big 9x multiplier I think great things can be expected of it even with a soso board.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Furen
Personally, I don't think it's cheap enough. It will be great for motherboards that can't reach over 400MHz on the FSB but it lacks VT and is only like 10% cheaper than the E6300. Not to mention that its still not out. 3.6GHz is an optimistic goal for Conroes, especially with air cooling and a cheap motherboard, and I doubt Allendale will change this.

It's 10% cheaper, has a smaller die size than the cache disabled E6300/E6400, and has a multiplier that allows for some real high overclocking. What's not to like at its price? I will never make use of VT, so it's not necessary for me.

Sure, they could make it cheaper, maybe $130 or so, but I'd gladly buy one for $150 as opposed to an E6300 for $170.

 

[BladeVenom]

The E4300 looks great except for one thing, it won't be out till early next year. So this holiday season while everyone else is playing with their shiny new E6300/6400s you'll be spending the next couple of months looking at Intels spec. page, but at least you'll save $20. Have fun!

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: Furen
Personally, I don't think it's cheap enough. It will be great for motherboards that can't reach over 400MHz on the FSB but it lacks VT and is only like 10% cheaper than the E6300. Not to mention that its still not out. 3.6GHz is an optimistic goal for Conroes, especially with air cooling and a cheap motherboard, and I doubt Allendale will change this.

You're looking at things the wrong way - this will be an overclockers dream chip, mark my words. Current Allendales also tend to clock slightly higher than Conroes - keep that in mind. Plus this will be released Q1 07, and as we all know overclocks generally get better as the process matures, not worse.

Main benefits of E4300 over E6300:
1) Only 400FSB required for 3.6GHz (already mentioned by yourself)
2) Therefore, only DDR2-800 is required for 3.6GHz - no exorbitant DDR2-1066 is required
3) Therefore, total platform cost will be significantly lower.

The lower FSB and RAM requirements will bring down the total platform cost MUCH more than the 10% price difference compared to the E6300. Just compare the prices of current DDR2-800 and DDR2-1066 - we're talking $100+ here already! Factor in ~$50 cost savings for a cheaper mobo that can 'only' hit 400FSB instead of 500FSB, and we're talking $150+ cost savings on the platform side.

3.6GHz is probaby slightly optimistic, but by no means impossible. I've seen plenty of E6400s hit 3.6GHz on decent air cooling. E6300s that hit 3.6GHz are much rarer as it would require a mobo capable of 515FSB - only the best P965 boards can achieve such speeds.

If anything, I'd say 3.0 - 3.5GHz is a 'realistic' goal for the E4300 - but I'm sure a fair few will hit the magical '100% overclock' mark as well. :thumbsup:

 

[nyker96]

I agree with harpoon's assessment. E4300 makes OCing much more accessable to the masses with limited budget. You only need a average board and DDR800 or even DDR667 if you not too ambitious or is content with 3 or so. VT isn't widely used now, I would save that 30 bucks right away. By the time VT became popular I'd probably moved on to Quad which is much more fitting for VT workloads.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The E4300 looks great except for one thing, it won't be out till early next year. So this holiday season while everyone else is playing with their shiny new E6300/6400s you'll be spending the next couple of months looking at Intels spec. page, but at least you'll save $20. Have fun!

The bolded part is the only problem. The point of getting this chip also isn't to save $20. The point is that it's going to be MUCH easier to overclock than the E6300, and will likely overclock farther due to less bottlenecks you're going to encounter (FSB and RAM speed). Like mentioned already in this thread, you'll be able to buy cheaper RAM and a cheaper motherboard and still have the room to overclock very high, luck permitting.

 

[n7]

I haven't paid much attention to this E4300, but is this chip slated for retail release, or OEM only?

Without looking it up, my initial guess would be that it's gonna be a mainly OEM CPU for Dell & HP, which could mean it'd be difficult for us to get our paws on.

Has it been announced what availability it is going to have?

 

[SpeedZealot369]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The E4300 looks great except for one thing, it won't be out till early next year. So this holiday season while everyone else is playing with their shiny new E6300/6400s you'll be spending the next couple of months looking at Intels spec. page, but at least you'll save $20. Have fun!

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