E Opterons out.

[Zebo]

Looks like painless move to 90nm since all are rev E's.. 252 aka 2.6Ghz also released today. They get SSE3, 1Ghz HT and maybe other improvements.. can't wait for some benchmarks..
http://www2.amd.com/us-en/OPN_Printer/1...l=us-en&currParentQRG=7832&cdc_ctypes=

 

[phr0m]

when do you think the desktop processor will all start to be moved to the 90nm area?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: phr0m
when do you think the desktop processor will all start to be moved to the 90nm area?

ermm.... most amd desktops (at least the big sellers) are already 90nm.

 

[CheesePoofs]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: phr0m
when do you think the desktop processor will all start to be moved to the 90nm area?

ermm.... most amd desktops (at least the big sellers) are already 90nm.

I think he might have meant when will the desktop revision e's come out

 

[gobucks]

i'd imagine pretty soon - especially now that the 4000+ and 3800+ had nice price drops today, I doubt AMD's gonna want to pay to make them as 130nm chips when pretty much every 90nm part AMD makes can easily hit those 2.4GHz+ speeds. Of course, I hope they don't come out TOO soon or I'll be mad I didn't wait to get one, lol.

 

[Jeff7181]

I guess this means AMD has ironed out any kinks in their 90nm process since they're moving the Opteron line to 90nm which require absolute stability.

 

[Zebo]

Good call Jeff...did you really order that 3500 setuP>?

I may have waited..exciting times on desktop next 1-2 months. Rev E's should be here..800XL may be retail price for a nice PCIe card....Bullhead enthusiasts boards which have superior mem performance should be here... well I guess it's always that way..wait wait wait.

 

[clarkey01]

AMD have been running 90 nm tech since May 2004 (well, whats been said) so I hope they have smoothed out any kinks( crossing my fingers for 3 Ghz+)

 

[ribbon13]

I can't wait!!!

I want some Abit WN-2S+ and Dual 242 Rev E action!!

 

[Zebo]

Two things I'm waiting for too

Hey need to make sure rev E's work inside Abit board first.. They say CG rev only on site.. So no old C0s and maybe not these..

 

[bersl2]

Might this be a consequence of the black magic being used to permit unbuffered RAM?

I'm still rather suspicious of that board until more details come out about how they do it.

 

[Zebo]

Nothing black magic about it. Remember Opteron only needs only registerd not ECC ram. The only purpose of registerd ram is to solve clock issues with the long traces. Notice this board only has two dimms per processor and I'd imagine is to solve the issue by having both short and good trace design so the data comes in at high enough signal so opteron does'nt know you're even using unbuffered.. Opteron's memory controller won't be able to tell if the dimm buffered it for a cycle or not. Registered is exactly like unregistered memory but buffers a request in its register as a stability enhancing measure before sending it. The pins, protocol and data are all the same. And I bet ABIT has worked it out to leave Operon clueless as to what you're using..Well hope actually.

 

[ribbon13]

I have some Corsair 3200XL from my Socket A rig waiting to push an Opteron 242 to new levels.

 

[clarkey01]

My only problem with AMD is thier lack of informing, any ideas when Desktop dual cores are coming our way ? And how much clock speed bumbs are we going to see untill then ? Will Revision E be the last before dual core ?

When dual core comes out will single core be scarped ?

I betcha the revision E wont come with SS, I just have a bad feeling that there going to let everyone down again.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Good call Jeff...did you really order that 3500 setuP>?

I may have waited..exciting times on desktop next 1-2 months. Rev E's should be here..800XL may be retail price for a nice PCIe card....Bullhead enthusiasts boards which have superior mem performance should be here... well I guess it's always that way..wait wait wait.

Yeah I did... I mainly did it to set up my family with something that won't be out of date for a while since I may be moving soon. If I don't end up moving, well, then I'll have an Athlon-64 setup, lol.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
I have some Corsair 3200XL from my Socket A rig waiting to push an Opteron 242 to new levels.

Did you listen to him at all?

You need Registered Memory. THat is unregistered/unbuffered memory. It wont work.

-Kevin

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
I can't wait!!!

I want some Abit WN-2S+ and Dual 242 Rev E action!!

what would be the performance of this board be like compared to the proven gaming rigs so far like DFI sli fx55 etc etc ????????

Would you see much of a performance increase? I ask this due to the fact that i thought only apps (like OS, i know that this will) had to be programmed to properly utilize threads on two simultaneous processors?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Well the games are not Multi-THreaded... yet, so with dual processors you might notice a small difference if you have some back ground programs/services running.

As for the performance comparison, the WN-2S+ will not OC nearly as far as the DFI. However no matter multi-threaded or not you will still be a little faster with 2 CPU's. THe DFI might be a little faster though because DFI board is tweaked for performance and OCing, whereas the WN-2S+ appears to be for performance, but it is still a server board, so stability is numero uno.

-Kevin

 

[RichUK]

i surpose you right Gamingphreek, i surpsoe we will just have to wait until dual cores come out, instead of having a dream machine of 2 Optos in performance gaming rig (which would be a very tastey rig if it could be OCed)

quick question little bit of topic but ... but the new dual cores will they OC that well, i dont think they will...

 

[DAPUNISHER]

These fockers keep finding a way to get money out of me! 3ghz+ on air I won't be able to say no to....

 

[LTC8K6]

How come the new Opteron is getting is ass kicked most of the time by the new Xeon?

I didn't think the extra cache and the faster bus could make such a difference.

I guess more than 2 CPU's might make a difference, though.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
How come the new Opteron is getting is ass kicked most of the time by the new Xeon?

I didn't think the extra cache and the faster bus could make such a difference.

I guess more than 2 CPU's might make a difference, though.

Cause Intel finally gave the Xeon what it needs... memory bandwidth.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Also those aren't exactly Opteron friendly tests. I suspect if he did the entire benchmark sweet the Opteron would come out on top.

The Xeons are very nice chips, however, remember they consume a lot more power, which puts out a lot more heat, which makes you add more fans, which causes more noise. So there is a balance here of speed and efficiency. Also remember Intel has been scrambling to get different chips out while AMD is not releasing that many and is in no hurry.

-Kevin

 

[Avalon]

Once someone points me to a link with a rev E winchester for under $175, I'll be all over it.

 

[dashiki]

what does revision E mean?