E-350 1080p playback

mrcmtl

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Hi guys,

I just bought an ASUS E35M1-I Deluxe E-350 motherboard for a HTPC. Now I assembled everything with 2GB of RAM. Installed windows, drivers and everything.

Now I went to some testing. With this video playing on FULL SCREEN 1080p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA378g_gD1I

At first, I used the default drivers that came on the CD with Flash 10.3, playback was horrible, less than 5fps. Now with the new Catalyst 10.5, playback is I'd say around 10-15fps, but if I move the video back to browser size, its super smooth. Is anyone else experiencing same issues or any suggestion is appreciated.

Thanks
 

tijag

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Hi guys,

I just bought an ASUS E35M1-I Deluxe E-350 motherboard for a HTPC. Now I assembled everything with 2GB of RAM. Installed windows, drivers and everything.

Now I went to some testing. With this video playing on FULL SCREEN 1080p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA378g_gD1I

At first, I used the default drivers that came on the CD with Flash 10.3, playback was horrible, less than 5fps. Now with the new Catalyst 10.5, playback is I'd say around 10-15fps, but if I move the video back to browser size, its super smooth. Is anyone else experiencing same issues or any suggestion is appreciated.

Thanks

The newest Catalyst drivers should be 11.5? Perhaps you're using very old drivers.
 

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Well at least you could run at 1080P. My very old internet machine Intel P4C 3.2ghz . with the 1950 Pro wouldn't play at 1080 But ran great at 720. I am on a 26" monitor.
 

Schmide

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1080p 24-30fps bitrates are in the 20Mbit+ range. I doubt that video or your internets are up to the task.
 

drizek

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What browser are you using? Try Firefox and make sure you have the latest version of Flash, try a beta version.
 

Arkadrel

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You need flash 10.2 (or newer) to be able to use your GPGPU to accelerate the playback of youtube videos (I believe I read).

So if your not getting smooth playback, try updateing your flash player.
The gpgpu acceleration via opencl, is a big thing for the APUs... they depend on the GPU to handle these workloads (to do that however you NEED the software to do so).
 
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VirtualLarry

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Hmm, I've got 25/25 FIOS, and that 1080P trailer played just fine for me. Q9300 @ 3.0, GTX460. Goes up to about 40% CPU time on each core.

Edit: Plays pretty good on a G31/X3100 with E5200 @ 3.0 rig too. Monitor is only 1280x1024, so it has to decode 1080P, and then scale it down a bit.
 
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podspi

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Video played fine for me as well. Those graphics look awesome... I didn't realize how nice some games can look on the PC these days...


I believe the E-350 should be able to do it, though. I would upgrade all the software and see what that gets you. My 5650 was able to do it without breaking a sweat. Showed about 3%~12% utilization on my 5650, according to AMD's system monitor.
 

mrcmtl

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I think I found the problem. I think the BF3 video has shaders or stuff from games so that's why my E-350 couldn't play it very smoothly. A normal 1080p video runs fine on full screen.
 

gdansk

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I think I found the problem. I think the BF3 video has shaders or stuff from games so that's why my E-350 couldn't play it very smoothly. A normal 1080p video runs fine on full screen.

No... it is pre-rendered. Your GPU will not be doing any of the rendering beside the video stream. My HP dm1z can play a 26GB 1080p rip of Avatar fine, but it does have problems with 1080p Flash content. Honestly, if you can use anything but flash, it should be fine.
 

KatanaBob

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On my Dell XPS M1330 with Core 2 duo T9300 and 8400M GS I get bad lag in 1080p flash videos for some reason. Even on 720p videos on gamespot I get really bad stuttering. Maybe you have the same problem? It's definately a flash thing, because 1080p videos play without problems in VLC.
 

moriz

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The 8400m does not have HD decode capability. In fact, it can't even do 1080p over HDMI.
 

mrcmtl

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I just found out that Zacate is seriously bandwidth limited...

BF3 video:
DDR3-1066, <5fps
DDR3-1333, 10fps- 15fps
 

VirtualLarry

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Does this mean that the memory is THAT much of a bottleneck to the integrated GPU?

What I don't get, is, if Zacate is THAT bottlenecked, then why aren't AMD's other IGP's that have UVD functionality bottlenecked?

I can watch 24FPS 1080P (Planet Earth MKV rips), on my 780G-chipset rig, with only single-channel DDR2-800. Surely, DDR3 is faster.
 

Zap

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Does this mean that the memory is THAT much of a bottleneck to the integrated GPU?

Yes. Think about this for a moment. How much memory bandwidth does a typical graphics card have? Now how much does a motherboard have for the CPU? Now, share that bandwidth with the IGP. With Zacate, cut that bandwidth in half because it is only single channel.
 

Schmide

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So I bought my Nephew a Acer Aspire e-350 notebook. Haven't given it to him. (birthday) So I had to check it out.

After updating my flash and drivers I went to the BF3 link and got some pretty crappy playback.

So I then went to

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/stagevideo.html

Played the Imax trailer, a snake video, and a couple others.

Went back to the BF3 video and it now plays flawless at 1080p.

So maybe the encoding of that webpage doesn't properly load the UDV3 accelerator?

(Went back and watched Big Buck Bunny again)
 

RyanGreener

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Yes. Think about this for a moment. How much memory bandwidth does a typical graphics card have? Now how much does a motherboard have for the CPU? Now, share that bandwidth with the IGP. With Zacate, cut that bandwidth in half because it is only single channel.

Ah, thanks for the clarification.
 

beginner99

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The issue is flash. It's just very crappy/ ressource hog.

That's probably also why apple does not support it because then people would see how crappy their hardware is.
 

KatanaBob

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The 8400m does not have HD decode capability. In fact, it can't even do 1080p over HDMI.

Is that about the HD decode true for my 8400M GS as well? It can do 1080p fine over HDMI, in fact, I do it just about every day.
 

Rene82

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Hello all

I just want to say i got the same problem with a Asrock e350m1 XBMC,VLC,Splash players works fine and no fps drops at all, but when i go to youtube or any flash site it lag/framedrop to 5/15 fps all the time, i think is because the gpu acceleration dont work as my cpu going close to 100% and about 20/30% when i use XBMC,VLC lets hope they are gonna fix this soon.

Regards
Renè
 

drizek

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Use firefox, use the latest beta of flash, and see if it works better.

Adobe has been doing a lot of optimization. Their goal was to get it to work properly on a low end Macbook Air. That means 1.4GHz Core2Duo with a G320M.