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Dying Light - SNB minimum CPU, Haswell recommended w/ 780/290

escrow4

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/239140/

MINIMUM

OS: Windows® 7 64-bit / Windows® 8 64-bit / Windows® 8.1 64-bit
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-2500 @3.3 GHz / AMD FX-8320 @3.5 GHz
Memory: 4 GB RAM DDR3
Hard Drive: 40 GB free space
Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560 / AMD Radeon™ HD 6870 (1GB VRAM)
DirectX®: Version 11
Sound: DirectX® compatible

RECOMMENDED

OS: Windows® 7 64-bit / Windows® 8 64-bit / Windows® 8.1 64-bit
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-4670K @3.4 GHz / AMD FX-8350 @4.0 GHz
Memory: 8 GB RAM DDR3
Hard Drive: 40 GB free space
Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 780 / AMD Radeon™ R9 290 (2GB VRAM)
DirectX®: Version 11
Sound: DirectX® compatible

Next gen rolls on . . . .
 

skipsneeky2

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Those cpu requirements are out of this world,would a i3 4000 series or a fx6300 pretty much keep the game from even installing or would the game just be to much of a stuttering mess?

A gtx560 as a minimum requirement is understandable i guess,but i seriously wonder if anything outside of a i5 2500/8320 really could keep such a gpu from getting bottlenecked.
 

ShintaiDK

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I wonder if its the same as previous. You can install it on whatever old system you got with 4 threads. And will run, while it wont work on dualcores until crack shows it works flawless and then publisher "fixes" it so it can be run on dualcores.

The publisher also seems unaware of the 2300 and 2400.
 
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Well, I say this every time a new game comes out it seems. Those who were crying out for higher system requirements are getting it in spades. Not sure there is a corresponding improvement in game play that merits excluding such a large part of the gaming population. And forget about the x86 consoles giving a great advance to PC gaming. All they seem to have done is make it easy to make a crappy port that excludes a significant part of PC gamers by not really optimizing the game to take advantage of the strengths of the PC vs consoles.
 

Blitzvogel

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I think we have another case of Advanced Warfare here. I don't see a dev completely marginalizing a potential player base by requiring a CPU that literally is over twice as capable an all fronts as what is in the current consoles. The graphics and RAM requirements do actually make sense though (to a certain degree).

The game /might/ really need a quadcore, but the SNB recommendation is likely because they feel hardly any PC gamers are still running Core 2 Quads or Phenom II x4s and it would sound "archaic" for them to verbally require a 5+ year old CPU.

Once the game comes out, people will be able to test it for themselves.
 
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jpiniero

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Would be interesting if this uses AVX with no fallback; hence the Sandy Bridge requirement and 4 module FX (since AVX only runs at the module level).

It'd probably run OK on the i3.
 

Blitzvogel

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Would be interesting if this uses AVX with no fallback; hence the Sandy Bridge requirement and 4 module FX (since AVX only runs at the module level).

It'd probably run OK on the i3.

Ahhhh that might explain it. So an Athlon 5350 will technically run it, but my Phenom II won't :whiste:
 

RussianSensation

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The graphics in trailers look pretty good actually. The CPU requirements aren't out of this world honestly as those are basically 4-year-old architectures. Frankly a Core i7 920/860 are 5-6 years old and I am sure overclocked to 3.9-4.0Ghz, they will probably play the game just fine. It's honestly remarkable for the consumer how well Intel's i5/i7 CPUs last. Even the venerable Barton XP 2500+ OC or the Operon 165 / X2 3800+ OC never lasted us 4-6 years for gaming.

I think this game actually might justify the high CPU/GPU requirements as the lighting/shadows and DOF all look really well done:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/239140/
 

skipsneeky2

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The graphics in trailers look pretty good actually. The CPU requirements aren't out of this world honestly as those are basically 4-year-old architectures. Frankly a Core i7 920/860 are 5-6 years old and I am sure overclocked to 3.9-4.0Ghz, they will probably play the game just fine. It's honestly remarkable for the consumer how well Intel's i5/i7 CPUs last. Even the venerable Barton XP 2500+ OC or the Operon 165 / X2 3800+ OC never lasted us 4-6 years for gaming.
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I guess your right,i am so used to seeing a C2D as a minimum requirement for games and that tech is over 7 years old.Its a joke when you think about how something like a E6600 which is the most common 2.4Ghz cpu recommended for minimum requirements for something like BF4 lol. Good luck in the multi player on that.

I gave the requirements some thought and well i guess just about everyone serious about getting the most out of a 290/780 is gonna be rocking a i5 anyways.
 

RussianSensation

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Exactly. A good AM3+ board is only $120 and you can easily get FX8370 4.3Ghz for $170. Newegg even had the FX9590 for $199 on Black Friday week. Prices of high-end processors are dirt cheap now in the context of their useful life. $300 for a 6-core 5820K at MC, which means even if you sell it for just $100 in 5 years, your cost of ownership is just $40 per year -- ridiculously cheap in the context of $70-80 cell phone monthly plans we are asked to pay. Gamers buy a PS4 for $400 but they can't afford a $170-200 CPU with a $120 board and $70 for 8GB of DDR3? With major savings on PC games, PC gaming has never been this affordable. Titan performance in a $250 R9 290 for crying out loud.
 
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Well, my friend has an older gaming laptop, with a dual core, and I hate to see it not even close to min spec. Pretty much impossible to upgrade for anyone who has a laptop that doesnt meet the specs. I have no problem with games that run poorly on dual cores, but it angers me when games like FC4 or Advanced Warfare wont load on dual cores, but run fine on them when a hack is used. As for this game in particular, I guess we dont know whether dual cores will be totally locked out or if one can run the game and decide whether the performance is adequate. And as for the recommended, a 780 or 290, seriously? Those gpus alone cost almost as much as a console. Call it lack of progress if you like, but two main reasons PC gaming was becoming so much more popular was the availability of cheap games from Steam and similar services and also the ability to play nearly every game on any kind of decent processor with a 100.00 to 150.00 add in gpu. That seems to be going away fast, at least as far as the hardware is concerned. It does worry me that this trend will drive a lot of people back to consoles, especially when even a lot of the new games run like crap even on top end hardware.
 

RussianSensation

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You can get better than console performance in every cross-platform PS4 game with a $160 FX8350 / $130 i3 and a $150 R9 270X/280. It's not apples-to-apples comparison when you start comparing PC graphics on an i5 2500K OC + 780/290 against PS4. With the cost of console games so high, PC gaming is far cheaper over the long-term even if you buy $400-500 CPUs/videocards every 3-4 years. Most console gamers just have no clue how to calculate the total cost of gaming and don't know how to research PC components/build one themselves. They think buying a $300-400 console is cheaper because they fail to take into account the total cost of games when it comes to the true cost of the hobby.
 

toyota

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plus how many console owners stick with the launch versions only? I think many if not most go out out and buy the revised versions at some point. and many people will also be having to upgrade their hard drives since the consoles only have 500gb which is not going to cut it over the next couple years unless you want to constantly delete stuff. main advantage of consoles is the simple plug and play which I can understand is a huge benefit.
 

jpiniero

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You can get better than console performance in every cross-platform PS4 game with a $160 FX8350 / $130 i3 and a $150 R9 270X/280.

You have to add the extra $100 for Windows. So you are already at the price of the One now, and you need a lot more. MS cutting the price has ended any talk of PC gaming being close in pricing to the consoles if you want something that will last another 4,5 years.
 

RussianSensation

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You have to add the extra $100 for Windows. So you are already at the price of the One now, and you need a lot more. MS cutting the price has ended any talk of PC gaming being close in pricing to the consoles if you want something that will last another 4,5 years.

Again, a box of hardware needs software. Right now I am in Asia for work and I bought Assassin's Creed III, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Splinter Cell Conviction -- all of these 5 games in Deluxe versions -- and Rayman Origins for $25 total on Origin. Console games in Canada are $80 after tax, $100+ in Australia, and $60-70 US in Central Asia. Even when they go on sale, still miles more expensive than Same version of PC games.

Witcher series, Hitman Absolution, Tomb Raider, Fallout games, Borderlands games, Batman Arkham games, Trine games, Elder Scrolls, Civilization, Starcraft series, NFS games, Crysis games, Metro games, etc. have all been $5-10 in Steam, GOG, Origin. You can hardly find console games that cheap and definitely not that cheap so soon as on the PC after initial release.

Want Sega Genesis collection, all Sonic games, it's all there dirt cheap on the PC. You also said it's $100 to get Windows. I upgraded from Windows XP to Windows 7 for $40 USD that MS had as a special upgrade offer. I then got W8.1 upgrade for free. That means since XP I only spent $80 to upgrade both my laptop and my desktop to W8.1!

I've done the math many times. If you buy 10+ games a year, over that 5-7 years of the console's life, after accounting for the resale value of PC parts and buying new upgrades, PC gaming is cheaper than console gaming. With Bitcoin mining added, PC gaming destroyed console gaming completely in the last 5 years as I spent $0 on GPu upgrades. I will still buy consoles for their exclusives but console gaming ownership is not cheap. Don't forget I am comparing high end PC gaming too but not everyone needs to buy $300 CPU and $600 cards every 2 years.

Finally, let's toss in the $50+ a year for online gaming on consoles. That adds up to $350 alone over 7 years. That right there is a free CPU platform upgrade after reselling old CPU platform or a flagship GPU upgrade. As toyota mentioned a mandatory HDD upgrade also adds to the cost. If your console breaks after 1 year, get ready to drop another $300+, vs. much longer warranties we get on PC parts, especially SSD and high quality PSUs.
 
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nurturedhate

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You also have to count that TV you are hooking up the console to. And there is little reason why you can't use it for the PC also which negates the need/cost of a monitor.
 
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Again, a box of hardware needs software. Right now I am in Asia for work and I bought Assassin's Creed III, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Splinter Cell Conviction -- all of these 5 games in Deluxe versions -- and Rayman Origins for $25 total on Origin. Console games in Canada are $80 after tax, $100+ in Australia, and $60-70 US in Central Asia. Even when they go on sale, still miles more expensive than Same version of PC games.

Witcher series, Hitman Absolution, Tomb Raider, Fallout games, Borderlands games, Batman Arkham games, Trine games, Elder Scrolls, Civilization, Starcraft series, NFS games, Crysis games, Metro games, etc. have all been $5-10 in Steam, GOG, Origin. You can hardly find console games that cheap and definitely not that cheap so soon as on the PC after initial release.

Want Sega Genesis collection, all Sonic games, it's all there dirt cheap on the PC. You also said it's $100 to get Windows. I upgraded from Windows XP to Windows 7 for $40 USD that MS had as a special upgrade offer. I then got W8.1 upgrade for free. That means since XP I only spent $80 to upgrade both my laptop and my desktop to W8.1!

I've done the math many times. If you buy 10+ games a year, over that 5-7 years of the console's life, after accounting for the resale value of PC parts and buying new upgrades, PC gaming is cheaper than console gaming. With Bitcoin mining added, PC gaming destroyed console gaming completely in the last 5 years as I spent $0 on GPu upgrades. I will still buy consoles for their exclusives but console gaming ownership is not cheap. Don't forget I am comparing high end PC gaming too but not everyone needs to buy $300 CPU and $600 cards every 2 years.

Finally, let's toss in the $50+ a year for online gaming on consoles. That adds up to $350 alone over 7 years. That right there is a free CPU platform upgrade after reselling old CPU platform or a flagship GPU upgrade. As toyota mentioned a mandatory HDD upgrade also adds to the cost. If your console breaks after 1 year, get ready to drop another $300+, vs. much longer warranties we get on PC parts, especially SSD and high quality PSUs.

True, but depending on where you live, there are many places that sell used console games and you can also trade in games that you no longer want. In addition, although PC gamers may scoff at it, consoles have a big advantage that in a lot of games you can play co-op or head to head on one system, which is not possible in most PC games.

Personally, I dont game on consoles at all, so I am not a console fan. I play on PC because there is a wider variety of games available and I prefer keyboard/mouse to controller. But I think it is very debatable that PC gaming is cheaper than consoles. And this goes to the point I was trying to make earlier, that the rapidly escalating pace of required hardware makes PC gaming much less affordable.
 

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People are forgetting that u can sell ur physical copy of console game but not on PC and for me it is biggest advantage that Console have right now over PC.


Sorry mods for going of the topic.
 

toyota

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People are forgetting that u can sell ur physical copy of console game but not on PC and for me it is biggest advantage that Console have right now over PC.


Sorry mods for going of the topic.
sell to who? and how? online you will have fees and shipping to pay. locally good luck dealing with the folks on craigslist if you even live in an area where that is a feasible option. and selling games to places like gamestop will get you only a few bucks in most cases. plus many games are digital so you are stuck if you buy those. and most DLC is digital and never goes on sale. no matter how you slice it buying games on pc is WAY cheaper overall if you do it right.
 

desprado

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sell to who? and how? online you will have fees and shipping to pay. locally good luck dealing with the folks on craigslist if you even live in an area where that is a feasible option. and selling games to places like gamestop will get you only a few bucks in most cases. plus many games are digital so you are stuck if you buy those. and most DLC is digital and never goes on sale. no matter how you slice it buying games on pc is WAY cheaper overall if you do it right.

I live in Malaysia.Most of AAA games of PS4 is around RM175 and when i finish the game under a weak or so i mostly sell that game at Rm140 or RM130 so in short that game only cost me Rm35 or less.
 

toyota

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I live in Malaysia.Most of AAA games of PS4 is around RM175 and when i finish the game under a weak or so i mostly sell that game at Rm140 or RM130 so in short that game only cost me Rm35 or less.
well that is not how it will work for everyone. I had a PS3 and 360 and could not get crap for the games. at Gamestop I was offered 3 bucks for Gears of War 2 a few years ago and a lady standing in line even told them that was stupid and gave me 15 dollars for the game.
 

nurturedhate

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well that is not how it will work for everyone. I had a PS3 and 360 and could not get crap for the games. at Gamestop I was offered 3 bucks for Gears of War 2 a few years ago and a lady standing in line even told them that was stupid and gave me 15 dollars for the game.


Pretty much this. The only games that hold their value are first party Nintendo games. Just got $32 for Skyward Sword. Good luck with that copy of Madden though, they won't even take it.