DX9 High Dynamic Range use in HL2 Benchmarks (not yet enabled in benchmarks!)

[Alkali]

This is a quote from Beyond3D's article on HL2 Demo Benchmarks at Valves Event

Note: The DX9 benchmark mode does not yet utilise Higher Dynamic Range rendering under the DirectX9 path. The point of the DirectX9 path was to give as much apples to apples rendering as possible for all boards, however present NVIDIA drivers do not support any floating point rendering targets and hence HDR would not operate on NVIDIA's DirectX9 boards. To ensure that that same amount of work is done on both ATI and NVIDIA's boards HDR is not enabled in the benchmark yet.

Correct me if I am wrong, but according to my ATi demos, and my judgement, the Higher Dynamic Range rendering significantly increases the strength of light, making objects appear far more real...

Understandable why the HDR Rendering was left out, but doesnt this mean the ATi card is shown in an even better light? Surely because if we hav'nt seen HDR rendering on the game yet, we are in for a real real treat

*enables gloat mode*

 

[Genx87]

More importantly how much of a hit will this incur on all these cards????

And if this hasnt been included yet in the demos then the game probably wont make it out on the 30th.

 

[Alkali]

The only reason its not included was for a direct comparison with the nVidia cards, because the nVidia cards cant do HDR rendering... (what a suprise).

 

[1ManArmY]

We will be lucky to get the benchmark demo on the 30th , as far as the game goes not gonna see it until November. Thank Nvidia for the delay.

 

[Rage187]

"as far as the game goes not gonna see until November. Thank Nvidia for the delay."


omfg its raining outside, and its Nvidia's fault!!!!


get a grip

 

[DefRef]

There's hunger in the world...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

There's war and injustice...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

My girlfriend left me for a guy who doesn't like computers...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

Puppies turn into dogs who grow old and die...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

"Batman & Robin" was a totally ghey movie...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

When I sent nude photos to Jewel and she had a restraining order put on me...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

Question: If ATI is such an awesome company, why is there still war, injustice, hunger, geek-hating hoes, dean pets and ungrateful celebrities?!?

 

[GullyFoyle]

If Valve says they spent 5x more time implementing special code for Nvidia cards as for the default DX9 support, it is reasonable to assume they spent at least a month or two implementing special Nvidia code.
I don't think 1ManArmY's comments are that ridiculous. Lighten up you guys. He's just anxious to see HalfLife 2.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: DefRef
There's hunger in the world...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

There's war and injustice...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

My girlfriend left me for a guy who doesn't like computers...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

Puppies turn into dogs who grow old and die...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

"Batman & Robin" was a totally ghey movie...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

When I sent nude photos to Jewel and she had a restraining order put on me...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

Question: If ATI is such an awesome company, why is there still war, injustice, hunger, geek-hating hoes, dean pets and ungrateful celebrities?!?

I think you are being a little over dramatic!!!

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: 1ManArmY
We will be luck to get the benchmark demo on the 30th , as far as the game goes not gonna see until November. Thank Nvidia for the delay.

I think you'll find it probably has more to do with the ati/valve deal than nvidia, ati has to increase production and that will take time. I personally think Doom3 will be out before Half Life 2.

 

[Corporate Thug]

lol, leave to nvidiots to turn on ATi cuz the craptacular nvidia cards cant do HDR. to summarize, nvidia cards cant do PS2, DX9, and HDR. sorry that 5900/5900 ultra owners threw away their $$

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: shady06
lol, leave to nvidiots to turn on ATi cuz the craptacular nvidia cards cant do HDR. to summarize, nvidia cards cant do PS2, DX9, and HDR. sorry that 5900/5900 ultra owners threw away their $$

I think you will find my statement to be accurate, ati will obviously need to increase production due to the expected increase in demand.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: shady06
lol, leave to nvidiots to turn on ATi cuz the craptacular nvidia cards cant do HDR. to summarize, nvidia cards cant do PS2, DX9, and HDR. sorry that 5900/5900 ultra owners threw away their $$

I think you will find my statement to be accurate, ati will obviously need to increase production due to the expected increase in demand.

i never expected to see HL2 before november

 

[DefRef]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: DefRef
There's hunger in the world...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

There's war and injustice...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

My girlfriend left me for a guy who doesn't like computers...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

Puppies turn into dogs who grow old and die...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

"Batman & Robin" was a totally ghey movie...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

When I sent nude photos to Jewel and she had a restraining order put on me...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

Question: If ATI is such an awesome company, why is there still war, injustice, hunger, geek-hating hoes, dean pets and ungrateful celebrities?!?

I think you are being a little over dramatic!!!

I think someone needs to enrich their word power.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: shady06
lol, leave to nvidiots to turn on ATi cuz the craptacular nvidia cards cant do HDR. to summarize, nvidia cards cant do PS2, DX9, and HDR. sorry that 5900/5900 ultra owners threw away their $$

I think you will find my statement to be accurate, ati will obviously need to increase production due to the expected increase in demand.

i never expected to see HL2 before november

Alot of people do expect the game to be released this month including alot of online games companies I've noticed.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: 1ManArmY
We will be luck to get the benchmark demo on the 30th , as far as the game goes not gonna see until November. Thank Nvidia for the delay.

I think you'll find it probably has more to do with the ati/valve deal than nvidia, ati has to increase production and that will take time. I personally think Doom3 will be out before Half Life 2.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Doom3 scheduled for 1st quarter of 2004?

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: shady06
lol, leave to nvidiots to turn on ATi cuz the craptacular nvidia cards cant do HDR. to summarize, nvidia cards cant do PS2, DX9, and HDR. sorry that 5900/5900 ultra owners threw away their $$

I think you will find my statement to be accurate, ati will obviously need to increase production due to the expected increase in demand.

i never expected to see HL2 before november

Alot of people do expect the game to be released this month including alot of online games companies I've noticed.

Ah yes, because people would delay a game because of that.

Like Half Life was delayed a long time, not for any reason to do with the game, but so graphics card companies coul dget more cards made. Oh yeah, Diakatana too, and Republic: The Revolution, and Doom3, and all those other games that have been delayed.

Games always get delayed, usually because they're not actually ready to be released, because they're not finally coded. If they have things to finish off in HL2, they will finish them off before releasing it. If the game is totally finished, they would release it.

 

[Pete]

FiringSquad:

If the performance is there for RADEON users, HDR could be a real selling point for ATI, as it?s definitely one of those features that you?re not going to want to turn off once you?ve seen it in action. Remember the first time you saw the sun in Gran Tourismo 3? To the uninitiated, HDR is similar to that effect, only it?s about two times more effective. In addition, the light reflects off of reflective or shiny surfaces. When you combine this with the Half-Life 2 water (which is the most accurate representation of water we?ve seen in a game to date), can you imagine how good HDR would look at sunset over a large body of water? HDR will also be used for effects like muzzle flashes.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: DefRef
There's hunger in the world...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

There's war and injustice...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

My girlfriend left me for a guy who doesn't like computers...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

Puppies turn into dogs who grow old and die...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

"Batman & Robin" was a totally ghey movie...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

When I sent nude photos to Jewel and she had a restraining order put on me...it's all Nvidia's fault!!!

Question: If ATI is such an awesome company, why is there still war, injustice, hunger, geek-hating hoes, dean pets and ungrateful celebrities?!?

Dammit, I thought you said "nude photos of Jewel".

Bastard.

- M4H

 

[Alkali]

Originally posted by: Pete
FiringSquad:

If the performance is there for RADEON users, HDR could be a real selling point for ATI, as it?s definitely one of those features that you?re not going to want to turn off once you?ve seen it in action. Remember the first time you saw the sun in Gran Tourismo 3? To the uninitiated, HDR is similar to that effect, only it?s about two times more effective. In addition, the light reflects off of reflective or shiny surfaces. When you combine this with the Half-Life 2 water (which is the most accurate representation of water we?ve seen in a game to date), can you imagine how good HDR would look at sunset over a large body of water? HDR will also be used for effects like muzzle flashes.

Yes, I saw that news too...

It does make me wonder what we are in for when the demo comes out

Oh, and I think September 30th will be the release of the demo, and November 1st the game release, although some sites like Amazon here in the UK think the game itself is set for 30th September release (which I really can't imagine to be true - but you never quite know).


Dont forget, HL2 will be available as a download through Steam, so it could be CD release November, but Online Release on September 30th.

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: 1ManArmY
We will be lucky to get the benchmark demo on the 30th , as far as the game goes not gonna see it until November. Thank Nvidia for the delay.

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?productcode=RM00327
30th September here. And GamePlay are almost allways right.
Becides, Ive read a press release a while back that says that Valve were unaware of any delay themselves, and it was just a rumor, cant remember where i read it, but it was one of the major HW sites.

##EDIT##
And here its listed as 30/09/2003
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=stcs2&page=title&r=PC&title=119757

 

[bunnyfubbles]

nVidia makes the best AMD chipsets, IT'S ALL NVIDIA'S FAULT!!!

 

[Alkali]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
nVidia makes the best AMD chipsets, IT'S ALL NVIDIA'S FAULT!!!

Now hang on a minute, we all know that AMD were working in secret with ATi to slow down the nVidia cards if they were installed on these motherboards don't we....

 

[SickBeast]

guys, it's known fact that defref is DEF. not the good kind of "def", as in "so-so-def"...i'm talking deaf as in when you mention ati, he goes DEAF, then insults you and flames you to boot. he very rarely actually rebuts what you have to say. he is, however, very knowledgeable when it comes to computer hardware. in this case there is no rebuttal, and that is why he is insulting people rather than having intelligent conversation. ati has better hardware for half-life 2. period. we will know beyond absolution that this is true once the game ships and anand benchmarks it.

defref, try to be objective and unemotional when debating with someone. it will get you further.

*flame suit equipped*