When was the last time anyone here was asked to participate in the steam survey?I don't think steam automatically collects data from everyone,it's just a sample.The last time i was asked i was using a 6600gt agp card.
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When was the last time anyone here was asked to participate in the steam survey?I don't think steam automatically collects data from everyone,it's just a sample.The last time i was asked i was using a 6600gt agp card.
There are a ton of Steam users.
Take a look above: about 15 million accounts on Steam. Last I heard only AMD had 25 million DX11 cards sold since 5xxx series launch. I suppose Nvidia had also quite a few sold since April especially after the 460 launch, so maybe the figure is what, 40-45-50 million DX11 cards sold to date? How can you say the Steam survey is indeed REPRESENTATIVE, not meaningful. If you use it in conjuncture with other surveys, preferably covering the remaining units then yes, it can become representative, if not, it's just relevant for a segment of the market.
Funny how Ad Hominem are the trademark of the AMD camp these days...
But have you guys (AMD camp) decided amongst yourself if Steam is "valid" or not yet?![]()
I'm not saying that the Steam numbers are the end all be all in terms of market share. While Steam doesn't represent the PC gaming market, it shouldn't be ignored.
I think the real question is: How many Steam accounts has Lonjberg made?
I think the real question is: How many Steam accounts has Lonjberg made?
I think the real question is: How many Steam accounts has Lonjberg made?
I cant believe you know 10 people that go through that much trouble for every game. I also cant believe those 10 people can always find somebody to buy an account just for a game.This is actually one very valid point, not lonbjerg himself but think about this:
Alot of people i know make a steam account for every game they purchase, they do this so they can resell the game with the account. I know its against the rules but i know of at least 10 people personally that do this and alot of them have over 50 accounts. So the hardware stats are going to be skewed just because steam thinks thats 50 differnt computers but really its just one guy with 50 accounts.
I cant believe you know 10 people that go through that much trouble for every game. I also cant believe those 10 people can always find somebody to buy an account just for a game.
They dont sell each game, they just do it on principle as they dont like not being able to resell. I did it too till i realized it was a stupid idea and keeping track of the login info was a pain. My best friend had over 70 steam accounts but he only buys games new and pretty much never buys anything onsale, mostly pre orders new games for 10% off or whatever the presale deal is then plays them for 6 months and sells them, works for him as he NEVER replays a game.
All those nice "examples" are useless...as they are..*TA-DAAA*:
statistically insignificant
More off-topic FUD?![]()
AMD maintains 80% of their 90% market share?
But yes, I thought the exact same thing when I read this title...
also, a lot of those DX11 cards are way too weak to actually run a game in DX11... mobility 5470? desktop 5450? ha, I would love to see those run some tessellation...
I haven't used Steam since HL2 ep2.
Says the person who brings up evolution vs. creationalism into the video card forum.
What do you find important with these Steam statistics? People are providing examples of why we shouldn't take Steam as a be all end all snap shot of marketshare and card sales. Seems fair enough based on the examples here. People have also shown how AMD can continue to handily outsell Nvidia and maintain or lose DX share in Steam. I honestly am not sure what your argument is anymore. :/
Simple:
Steam growth == nVidia outselling AMD.
No ifs ands or buts. This has been gone over ad nauseum. I don't get why you guys keep getting sucked into it. Just ignore the obvious.
This. Also, this DX11 debate gets rehashed every few weeks here and is getting old.
again many popular games have to be activated through Steam so whether you hate it or not has nothing to do with it.
I have a scientifically dubious chart too. Tiger Direct's top selling graphics cards as of right now:
1. EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SC Ed 1GB
2. EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1
3. EVGA GeForce 9500 GT 1GB DDR2
4. XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5 PC
5. EVGA GeForce GTX 460 Supercloc
6. EVGA GeForce 210 1GB DDR3 HDMI
7. EVGA GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1
8. PNY GeForce GTX 460 XLR8 OverC
9. Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB GD
10. Galaxy GeForce GT 430 1GB GDDR
I hope AMD can start making more than $1-2 million when it owns that much of the DX11 marketshare.
That is a good point. With such a large marketshare why are they not making much money? Are they selling their cards at a loss, just to keep up? I'm not sure how sustainable that is in the long run.
