Dwight Howard is an epic douchebag

Miramonti

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He won't re-sign with the Magic and now says if he's traded, he won't sign an extension...with anyone...even the nets...and will finish the season wherever he is and enter free agency.

He's gotten an excellent coach fired for being an immature prick, and now he's trying to bring the organization down further by leaving the team without allowing them to acquire anything substantial in return because no one will give up much for only 1 year of this douchebag on their team.

Fvck Dwight Howard.

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Agent says center not signing any extension

Dwight Howard's agent says the Orlando Magic center won't sign anything, with any team, until after he hits the open market next July.

Dan Fegan told ESPN's Ric Bucher on Thursday that Howard will still test the market after playing out the final year of his current contract. A report earlier Thursday by RealGM.com's Jarrod Rudolph said Howard would sign an extension with the Los Angeles Lakers if a trade could be worked out.
Dwight Howard trade update: Howard's agent says D12 isn't signing anything until next July. (AP Photo)

Howard's first choice for a trade, the Brooklyn Nets, fell out of the running after signing restricted free-agent center Brook Lopez to a $61 million extension last week.

"Dwight's position has remained unchanged since the end of this past season," Fegan told Bucher. "He fully intends to explore free agency at the end of next season, regardless of what team trades for him, including Brooklyn."

Nets president Billy King told Bucher via text that his team did not ask Howard to agree to an extension as a condition for a trade.

The reasoning for waiting seems clear: Howard will receive a bigger contract. He can sign up to a three-year extension with the team that trades for him, according to ESPN's Larry my excellent compatriot, or he can sign a five-year deal for up to $108 million after he becomes a free agent.

Brooklyn could still deal for Howard during the season if he stays in Orlando long enough. The Nets have to wait until Jan. 15 to trade Lopez.

The nba has had plenty of douchebags over the years, but I think this guy has hit an epic low in the history of the league.
 

manimal

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im surprised this doesnt have more often.


I would bench his ass and east the salary if I was emperor.
 

Miramonti

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Wow...so he's willing to risk a year to injury...not too bright.

That's an awesome point.

On the other hand, can/should this franchise allow him to play next year? It's a chunk of change to forego, but I'd love to see him have to sit his @ss for an entire season. And that most likely would be at home because they won't want his pouty whining @ss on the bench.
 
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Golfclap..
Dudes a douche but he sure would look nice in a Mavericks uniform playing next to Dirk.
 

QueBert

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Wow...so he's willing to risk a year to injury...not too bright.

He's worth about 70 million as of now. And this far in his career he hasn't been injury prone. Even if he had a career ending injury next season, he'd go out worth almost $90 million. Nothing stupid about him wanting to maximize his money. It's actually a pretty smart move on his part. We're not talking him haggling over a few dollars. This "stupid" move would put somewhere around $15-20 MILLION more in his pocket.
 
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Ok, why the hell would a player sign an extension with a team when he could get more money by waiting until free agency and then resigning with that team to get an extra year of salary as per the new CBA? You might hate Howard, but refusing to sign an extension should not be that reason.
 

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There will always be teams (*cough NYC cough*) that will offer retarded deals to anyone they think has a chance to help them...but I have to wonder how much the last 6 months of his career have hurt his signability for a team looking for a marquee player to anchor a team.

A year ago you had a pretty nice seeming guy who had a rock solid durability record and seemingly a desire to play hard.

Now you have a coach killer, a near 7' guy with a back surgery, and a wishy-washy crybaby who wants to commit to nothing.
 

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I didn't bother to read the OP because I don't give a f*ck.

A player has the perfect right to try and play in the city he wants to for the amount he wants to.
Owners trade players all the time. And they send them to clubs that won't give them long term contracts and that won't pay them as much.

In other words, if the owners can do it, the players can do it.
 

darkxshade

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That's an awesome point.

On the other hand, can/should this franchise allow him to play next year? It's a chunk of change to forego, but I'd love to see him have to sit his @ss for an entire season. And that most likely would be at home because they won't want his pouty whining @ss on the bench.


I dunno, on the opposite end of the spectrum, if the team is vindictive enough, can't they play him for all 48 mins of every game so that he might get injured?
 

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Better yet just amnesty his ass then refuse any offers from other teams that offer to sign him. Let's see what offers he gets after a year of zero basketball, not to mention the impact on his career stats and hall of fame chances.
 
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There will always be teams (*cough NYC cough*) that will offer retarded deals to anyone they think has a chance to help them...but I have to wonder how much the last 6 months of his career have hurt his signability for a team looking for a marquee player to anchor a team.

A year ago you had a pretty nice seeming guy who had a rock solid durability record and seemingly a desire to play hard.

Now you have a coach killer, a near 7' guy with a back surgery, and a wishy-washy crybaby who wants to commit to nothing.

Not sure if serious? You'd drop any player on the Bulls not named Rose in a matter of seconds to have D12 play alongside Rose.
 

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Ok, why the hell would a player sign an extension with a team when he could get more money by waiting until free agency and then resigning with that team to get an extra year of salary as per the new CBA? You might hate Howard, but refusing to sign an extension should not be that reason.

He can get a sign and trade for the max, or he can sign at max for the team he gets traded to. By announcing this, he/his agent have torpedoed his trade value.

They should trade him to Portland for a bucket of spit, and laugh when his knees explode.
 

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Better yet just amnesty his ass then refuse any offers from other teams that offer to sign him. Let's see what offers he gets after a year of zero basketball, not to mention the impact on his career stats and hall of fame chances.

He's clearly the best big man in the NBA at the moment. If he doesn't play an entire season every team would still want him. He's not a poker player going all in with seven deuce pre flop praying for a miracle. He has pocket aces.
 

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He's clearly the best big man in the NBA at the moment. If he doesn't play an entire season every team would still want him. He's not a poker player going all in with seven deuce pre flop praying for a miracle. He has pocket aces.

I think he used to have aces, now he's got two queens or so. The back injury has to worry teams, and his back and forth pouting and whining (not to mention undercutting a coach and getting him fired) are cause for concern.

I don't have any problem with DH going to play wherever he wants to play, for whatever money they want to offer him. That said, he's basically kicking the orlando franchise in the nuts by saying he won't sign a new long term deal with anyone -- if I was the Magic I'd play him 48 minutes per game all year. If you're not going to be able to get anything in trade value anyway, then you might as well keep him and use him up to the max since future value doesn't matter.
 

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I don't really see a problem with that. This is his best shot for a free agent contract. There's no rule that says he has to be willing to re-sign with anyone. What does he owe the Magic? Loyalty? Would the Magic really have any loyalty for him?

I don't know how pro sports team owners have managed to win the spin wars, claiming that players are heartless and only out for money (as opposed to them), but it's laughable.
 

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I dunno, on the opposite end of the spectrum, if the team is vindictive enough, can't they play him for all 48 mins of every game so that he might get injured?

Thats what I was going to say, play the man into the ground. Might as well use him while you still got him.
 

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He's playing strictly by the rules, and risking losing a ton of money going forward if he's injured this season. It's his career, and his choice. Nothing wildly douchey about that.

As has been pointed out, with certain scarce exceptions, owners and GM's trade players under their control all the damn time with little concern for the player's feeling.

It's a fucking business.

All that said, I'm not sure I understand Howard's thinking here. I can't be arsed to research the intricacies of the NBA salary rules, but if he can get a max salary deal with a sign and trade to a team he wants to go to, and can't somehow get more through some secret exception super max in free agency, then I guess it's mostly about him wanting max control over which team he chooses.

It does seem like maybe he has some deep-seated butthurt towards the Orlando organization . . . maybe for not being able/willing (?) to put a championship team around him during his time there?

But the bottom line is that, while he may be a douche, he's not a douche for exercising his personal and contractual right to sample free agency. The NBA is a business, and all the other actors (GM's and owners) make decisions based on what's best for them first as well.

Plus, he's putting himself on the line, betting he won't incur a catastrophic injury this coming year.

For this choice, sorry. Douchiness not found.
 
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He's playing strictly by the rules, and risking losing a ton of money going forward if he's injured this season. It's his career, and his choice. Nothing wildly douchey about that.

As has been pointed out, with certain scarce exceptions, owners and GM's trade players under their control all the damn time with little concern for the player's feeling.

It's a fucking business.

All that said, I'm not sure I understand Howard's thinking here. I can't be arsed to research the intricacies of the NBA salary rules, but if he can get a max salary deal with a sign and trade to a team he wants to go to, and can't somehow get more through some secret exception super max in free agency, then I guess it's mostly about him wanting max control over which team he chooses.

It does seem like maybe he has some deep-seated butthurt towards the Orlando organization . . . maybe for not being able/willing (?) to put a championship team around him during his time there?

But the bottom line is that, while he may be a douche, he's not a douche for exercising his personal and contractual right to sample free agency. The NBA is a business, and all the other actors (GM's and owners) make decisions based on what's best for them first as well.

Plus, he's putting himself on the line, betting he won't incur a catastrophic injury this coming year.

For this choice, sorry. Douchiness not found.

Another reason he might not want to sign and trade is that whatever team he sign and trades to will have to deplete their talent just to acquire him in a trade. That would mean it would be basically the Orlando situation all over again. Im also thinking its his way of sticking it to the magic front office.
 

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Better yet just amnesty his ass then refuse any offers from other teams that offer to sign him. Let's see what offers he gets after a year of zero basketball, not to mention the impact on his career stats and hall of fame chances.

Magic already used their amnesty on Gilbert Arenas.

However if they waive him, he'll go to a bidding process, and Magic will get back the amount of the winning bid. If he gets claimed, which he will, he'll still be up for free agency at the end of the contract, but it gives teams a year with him without giving up anything, and they get a chance to market an extension to him before free agency. I'm thinking the winning bid would be atleast worth $10m back to Orlando. As it is now, they will get nothing for him and it will be a lost season with him on the team.

That's if I understand this right. Lot's of rules in this sh!t. But I wouldn't expect such a douchebag to play for the Magic next year regardless.
 
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Miramonti

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Ok, why the hell would a player sign an extension with a team when he could get more money by waiting until free agency and then resigning with that team to get an extra year of salary as per the new CBA? You might hate Howard, but refusing to sign an extension should not be that reason.

Teams re-signing a player can offer 1 year more than teams competing via free agency. It's a rule to help teams re-sign their players in order to fend off the threat of losing a player altogether on the open market. iirc.
 

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All that said, I'm not sure I understand Howard's thinking here. I can't be arsed to research the intricacies of the NBA salary rules, but if he can get a max salary deal with a sign and trade to a team he wants to go to, and can't somehow get more through some secret exception super max in free agency, then I guess it's mostly about him wanting max control over which team he chooses

Three thoughts come to mind:

1) With the max salary, the only way he can make more money is to make sure he goes to a big market (endorsements). So the team does still matter.

2) In free agency, he can try to arrange his own team a la Lebron, Bosh and Wade. He can't do that any other way.

3) As an added bonus, refusing to sign makes him untradable, meaning that Orlando won't get anything for him beyond the next year of play.
 

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I very much want to see this guy blow out a knee or pull a Plaxico and shoot himself. Anything to make him disappear forever.