DVD-rewriter +/- with HD Burn for $277 (not in stock yet)

[GetInMyFatBelly]

http://store.yahoo.com/mcgailpc/opdddvredrre.html

Not yet in stock, but when it is it may be the DVD burner to get.

This drive has a 8MB buffer and HD Burn

If you don't know what HD Burn is, you can read up more from Sanyo, but it basically lets you put double the amount of data on a CD-R 700MB (no special CD's like Sony's old technology) CD-R = 1.4GB.

Optorite (Accesstek) DD0203

http://www.optorite.com/products.htm

http://www.accesstek.com.tw

Specs:
FEATURE
?? BURN-Proof: prevents Buffer Under Run
?? HD -BURN: record twice the capacity of CD-R media
?? 8 MB internal buffer
?? Motorized easy touch tray loading
?? Firmware upgradeable
?? Installation: horizontal and vertical
?? 4X Max. DVD+R and -R Write, 2.4X Max. DVD+RW Rewrite
2X Max.DVD-RW Rewrite, and 12X Max. DVD-ROM Reading
?? 24X Max. CD-R Write, 10X Max. CD-RW Rewrite
and 40X Max. CD-ROM Reading


SPECIFICATION
?? Data transfer speed (ATA I/F): Max. 33MB/sec. (Ultra DMA mode 2)
?? Random Seek: DVD: 130ms and CD: 100ms
?? Writing Speed:
Media DVD+R DVD-R DVD+RW DVD-RW CD-R CD-RW
Writing 4X 4X 2.4X 2X 24X 10X


?? Read Speed:
Media DVD-ROM CD-RO M
Reading 12X 40X


?? Writing Type:
DVD+R: Incremental Write (Multi Session Support)
DVD-R: Disc at Once, Incremental Recording
(Multi-Border Support)
DVD+RW: Random Write
DVD-RW: Rigid Restricted Overwriting, Incremental Write
CD-R/RW: Disc at Once, Session at Once, Track at Once, Packet Writing (Multi Session Support)
?? Dimensions (Including the front panel): 148*192.4*42.3mm (W*D*H)
?? Weight: <1.2kg
?? Power Requirements: DC 5V?}5% / 12V?}10%, Max2.0A
?? MTBF: 30,000 POH(duty 20%)
?? Environmental Specifications:
Temperature:
Operating: 5?? to 45??
Storage: -40?? to 70??

 

[clarkmo]

I wonder what drives could read an HD burned cdr. Great for storage though.

 

[TheDon]

Are you sure about the HD on DVDs? I noticed this on their Web site. It mentions CD-Rs, but I didn't see mention of DVDs. If you can double the capacity of a DVD, this thing would rock.

"HD-BURN: record twice the capacity of CD-R media"

 

[SDOG34]

There are a couple of stores on pricewatch that list it as $280 and $305 with an ETA of April 25. In comparing their prices to newegg, I would think waiting until some of the more household name websites stock them would garner you a better price. Specs seem on par with the sony, and this is certainly cheaper.

 

[SimMike2]

Not sure if these deals are still coming up, but a Pioneer 105 4X DVD-R (Cendyne brand also) was for sale at around $160 after rebate and coupon at places like Staples. If it comes up again, snap it up. Pioneer has been making these drives for quite some time now. They are tried and true. I got one a couple of months ago from Staple for $150 AR/AC and I have burned around 100 DVD-R with almost zero problems.

If your worried about the DVD-R/DVD+R incompatibility, don't worry. It is basically a non-issue as long as you can buy blanks in the near future. With the big base of DVD-R drives out there, don't worry about them stopping production any time soon. As for compatibilty, both these formats are compatible with all the standalone DVD players, so both formats are "compatible." It is nothing like Beta Vs. VHS which truly were incompatible formats.

 

[mattcham]

Originally posted by: SimMike2
If your worried about the DVD-R/DVD+R incompatibility, don't worry. It is basically a non-issue as long as you can buy blanks in the near future. With the big base of DVD-R drives out there, don't worry about them stopping production any time soon.

I agree. The DVD-R vs. DVD+R battle is over. The successor to DVD is now shipping in
large volumes to industrial firms. For the newbies out there, Blu-Ray is the 30-Gigabyte
disc in the same form factor as the CD/DVD. Forget the 17-gigabyte DVD, they are too late.
Blu-Ray prototypes are *now* cramming 120 Gigs per disc, slated for mass production in 2007.
It has no competition whatsoever...unlike VHS/Beta, DVD+R/-R, Iomega Zip/Syquest EZ flyer.

Blu-Ray is out. DVD will soon be like laserdisc, VHS, and the dodo.

The cartridge that you see on the link is not required for BlueRay, it is just a
protective sleeve used to scratch-proof medical record data discs (CT scan/MRI images).
It also enables them to stack two discs to make a "double-sided" cartridge.

Even Pioneer (DVD-R camp) and Sony (DVD+R camp) have finally united !!!

Just imagine - A whole StarTrek Next Gen Season on a single disc - in 1080i resolution!

 

[DrumBandit]

BlueRay is out. DVD will soon be like laserdisc, VHS, and the dodo.

LOL...I seriously doubt that. DVD has revolutionized digital media and it is still going. The feasibility of so called "BlueRay" in the NEAR future is unrealistic. Like you said, it may be good for CT scans or MRIs but seriously, movies and such will stay on DVD for a very long time.

 

[mattcham]

Originally posted by: DrumBandit DVD has revolutionized digital media and it is still going. The feasibility of so called "BlueRay" in the NEAR future is unrealistic. Like you said, it may be good for CT scans or MRIs but seriously, movies and such will stay on DVD for a very long time.

Just like movies were remastered for 720x480 DVD resolution, they will be remastered
again for 1080i Blu-ray resolution. It will happen within the next 10 years.

When the DVD format was first designed, it took years until DVD-R and DVD+R was
developed (just like CD-R was to CD). Blu-Ray is *now* in recordable format.
A format so reliable and cost-effective, hospitals are storing patient data into them!
The future is much closer than you think...

 

[DrumBandit]

Originally posted by: mattcham

Originally posted by: DrumBandit DVD has revolutionized digital media and it is still going. The feasibility of so called "BlueRay" in the NEAR future is unrealistic. Like you said, it may be good for CT scans or MRIs but seriously, movies and such will stay on DVD for a very long time.

Just like movies were remastered for 720x480 DVD resolution, they will be remastered
again for 1080i Blu-ray resolution. It will happen within the next 10 years.

When DVD was first designed, it took years before DVD-R and DVD+R was
developed (just like CD was to CD-R). Blu-Ray is *now* in recordable format.

Again, I seriously doubt how much better Blu-Ray can achieve in home media with it's new "450nm process" or something. Here you are, boring us with stats without any proof of the feasibility of the design? (Ooo...star trek...i can imagine) I quote: Target markets include archiving, document imaging, call centers, e-mail archiving, GIS, medical, telecom, banking, insurance, legal and government. VHS reigned for 20 years and I probably will make the assumption that DVD will stay as long or longer than that.

And this for cost effective? "Cost Effective Storage
UDO technology is particularly focussed on the professional archive market where cost effective long-term storage is the priority. 30GB UDO Write Once media will provide $2.00/GB incremental storage cost, which will decrease to $0.50/GB by the third generation products."

Ok...on sale in 2007, Blu-Ray discs! $60 for 120 GB storage. Order now!

 

[DurocShark]

Ok...on sale in 2007, Blu-Ray discs! $60 for 120 GB storage. Order now!

heh...

That's one tech that will be in the niche markets for a long time before consumers adopt it. In fact, another technology will most likely bypass it in the home before it's ready. That's ok... New technology is cool.

 

[herkulease]

Why are you guys fighting over future technology?

Its the future. You never know what wierd crap might come up that will make full usage of the technology.

20 years ago did you ever think or uses for 4.7gbs on removable media?

what were hd being sold back then? in the megabytes.

I agree it'll be a long way to being affordable like dvdrs are now.

It'll probably be affordable when dvdr blanks are cheap enough to not make you think twice when you have a coaster and just throw it away with like an "eh" attitude. ie dirt cheap.

 

[GetInMyFatBelly]

Yes, HD burn is for CD-R, as for drives available to read it, only DVD drives can, and will require a firmware upgrade to read them. I have read that there are a few companies that will support it. Lite-On for one. stand alone DVD players will be able to read these discs also with a firmware upgrade.

 

[MysticMan1]

Sony's BDZ-S77 Blu-ray Disc stand-alone 23GB recorder is for sale in Japan for about $4000 and rewritable DVDs priced about $600. link

link to review

It may be awhile before you can use a Staples coupon on one.

 

[Tarfin]

Didn't notice any software listed so that makes this a luke warm deal IMO. Add what it would cost to buy DVD authoring/burning software and you can have the Sony DRU-500. Sorry not trying to thread crap, just inform users who may not realize this. If I'm wrong about the software then this is a sweet deal.

 

[GoodToGo]

Originally posted by: Tarfin
Didn't notice any software listed so that makes this a luke warm deal IMO. Add what it would cost to buy DVD authoring/burning software and you can have the Sony DRU-500. Sorry not trying to thread crap, just inform users who may not realize this. If I'm wrong about the software then this is a sweet deal.

The software that comes with DRU500A is utter crap.

 

[OddTSi]

Originally posted by: mattcham
I agree. The DVD-R vs. DVD+R battle is over. The successor to DVD is now shipping in
large volumes to industrial firms. For the newbies out there, Blu-Ray is the 30-Gigabyte
disc in the same form factor as the CD/DVD. Forget the 17-gigabyte DVD, they are too late.
Blu-Ray prototypes are *now* cramming 120 Gigs per disc, slated for mass production in 2007.
It has no competition whatsoever...unlike VHS/Beta, DVD+R/-R, Iomega Zip/Syquest EZ flyer.

Blu-Ray is out. DVD will soon be like laserdisc, VHS, and the dodo.

The cartridge that you see on the link is not required for BlueRay, it is just a
protective sleeve used to scratch-proof medical record data discs (CT scan/MRI images).
It also enables them to stack two discs to make a "double-sided" cartridge.

Even Pioneer (DVD-R camp) and Sony (DVD+R camp) have finally united !!!

Just imagine - A whole StarTrek Next Gen Season on a single disc - in 1080i resolution!

Holy propaganda Batman!

Yup, Blu-Ray is out at about $3k-$4k per drive and who knows how much for ~27gig disks (which are NOT in the same form factor as CDs and DVDs). The cartridge is NOT optional. The whole concept behind Blu-Ray standard is to use a 0.1mm protective layer which makes it an absolute necessity to have a cartridge to protect the disk. The only way they can get rid of the cartridge is if they made the protective layer 0.6mm as in today's DVDs, in which case there would be no need for the seperate Blu-Ray format since it would be the same as the other proposed format.

As far as this 120gig prototype disk being available "now", why is it slated for production in 2007 if it's available "now"? For the time being Blu-Ray is nothing more than an optical backup drive, and there are many of those out right now. HD-DVDs are still a couple years (at the very least) away from mass market introduction, until then we have to make do with DVD+/-R.

 

[bravo261]

blu-ray is just way too far into the future to worry about it now. when it comes out, we'll welcome it, but i do think dvd movies will be produced for a very very long time. hell, the resolution is higher than tvs can generally handle anyways

 

[GetInMyFatBelly]

You should all be discussing this over at AVS forum, not in Hot Deals, I think this is worse than thread crapping... it's thread hijacking.

 

[MysticMan1]

Originally posted by: OddTSi

Originally posted by: mattcham
I agree. The DVD-R vs. DVD+R battle is over. The successor to DVD is now shipping in
large volumes to industrial firms. For the newbies out there, Blu-Ray is the 30-Gigabyte
disc in the same form factor as the CD/DVD. Forget the 17-gigabyte DVD, they are too late.
Blu-Ray prototypes are *now* cramming 120 Gigs per disc, slated for mass production in 2007.
It has no competition whatsoever...unlike VHS/Beta, DVD+R/-R, Iomega Zip/Syquest EZ flyer.

Blu-Ray is out. DVD will soon be like laserdisc, VHS, and the dodo.

The cartridge that you see on the link is not required for BlueRay, it is just a
protective sleeve used to scratch-proof medical record data discs (CT scan/MRI images).
It also enables them to stack two discs to make a "double-sided" cartridge.

Even Pioneer (DVD-R camp) and Sony (DVD+R camp) have finally united !!!

Just imagine - A whole StarTrek Next Gen Season on a single disc - in 1080i resolution!

Holy propaganda Batman!

Yup, Blu-Ray is out at about $3k-$4k per drive and who knows how much for ~27gig disks (which are NOT in the same form factor as CDs and DVDs). The cartridge is NOT optional. The whole concept behind Blu-Ray standard is to use a 0.1mm protective layer which makes it an absolute necessity to have a cartridge to protect the disk. The only way they can get rid of the cartridge is if they made the protective layer 0.6mm as in today's DVDs, in which case there would be no need for the seperate Blu-Ray format since it would be the same as the other proposed format.

As far as this 120gig prototype disk being available "now", why is it slated for production in 2007 if it's available "now"? For the time being Blu-Ray is nothing more than an optical backup drive, and there are many of those out right now. HD-DVDs are still a couple years (at the very least) away from mass market introduction, until then we have to make do with DVD+/-R.

SONY BDZ-S77 Recorder
Most news sites have recently posted that SONY Japan Corp is going to start sales of first household blu-ray DVD recorder, 23 GB, in Japan on April 10, 2003. The manufacturer-recommended price runs into US $3800.

In contrast to the conventional DVD-Video media (red laser), the new-generation discs work with a blue laser with the wavelength of 405 nm. It corresponds to blue color on the color spectrum. The maximum capacity of a one-side one-layer blu-ray disc makes 27 GB against 4.7 GB of DVD-ROM. The lens aperture is 0.85. The bitrate including service data is 36 Mbit/s. The disc diameter remains equal to CD and DVD, i.e. 120 mm. The disc is 1.2 mm thick with the protective layer being 0.1 mm. Recording method is phase transition. Groove technology is used to form tracks. Video format: MPEG2. Audio format: DolbyDigital AC3, MPEG2 Audio etc.

The drive can record only blu-ray media, but it supports reading of blue-ray, DVD-Video, DVD-RW, DVD-R, CD, CD-R and CD-RW discs.

The blu-ray recording has just started its way on the market. The manufacturers are now creaming off the sales through enthusiasts. Then they will throw out several mid-level poducts and in half a year or so the companies will roll out mainstream solutions (priced at about $500).

 

[3point14]

Originally posted by: mattcham<Just imagine - A whole StarTrek Next Gen Season on a single disc - in 1080i resolution!

You read my mind!

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: GetInMyFatBelly
If you don't know what HD Burn is, you can read up more from Sanyo, but it basically lets you put double the amount of data on a CD-R 700MB (no special CD's like Sony's old technology) CD-R = 1.4GB.

What's the point?

 

[Ian@CDRlabs]

Here's a link to Sanyo's HD-Burn website:

http://www.digital-sanyo.com/BURN-Proof/HD-BURN/index.html

Blu-Ray won't take off until the drives and the media is relatively cheap.

Not to mention, the media isn't backwards compatible with current technologies. With a writable DVD disc you can play it in a $30 DVD-ROM drive. To play a Blu-Ray disc you'll need to buy a $3000 Blu-Ray drive.

Sorry.. I'm going to hold onto my DVD writers for a little while longer.

 

[bravo261]

for storage, man

 

[dgem77]

So the question is...

Anyone have one or have heard of Optorite? Are they good products? Is it another "Lite-On" like manufacturer that makes good drives but sells cheap?

 

[krackato]

I once bought a Cendyne cdrw thinking it would probably be a Lite-On. It was an Optorite. Bitch to install. I finally got it installed after several hours and it works fine, but Optorite is no Lite-On.