DVD+/-R/RW Media...What's good, What's crap?

Skoodog

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I just had the pleasure of purchasing a DVD+/-R burner....the Optorite with the HDburn feature to be exact. Anyways I was wondering if anyone had good deals on media, as I hear brands are fairly specific in goodness. Any ideas?
 

Murr

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Hey i just got the same one. I ordered a demo pack from blank-cd-cdr.com which included Princo, Ritek, and Optodisk DVD-RWs. None of them worked.:( However, I have not updated the firmware of the burner and that may allow me to use the discs.

I got a 15 pack of TDK 4x DVD+R for $40, which is a decent deal and they worked great. But I would recommend getting at least 1 rewritable disc to sort of test out different burning methods. I wasted 4 dvds just by learning, which comes out to about ten bucks.

BTW, checkout vcdhelp.com if you need any help, its a really great site with plenty of easy to follow guides.
 

Murr

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Yeah I heard Ritek is good, but it does not work with the Optorite. Maybe updating the firmware will work, I dunno.

Edit: err, the Ritek -RWs dont work as of now, I heard someone say the +R's do.
 

Dreadogg

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Originally posted by: wixt0r
Princo = Crap
Ritek, Taiyo Yuden, Mitsubishi = Good

well I used some princo's that burn at 4x that work great. I have used about 10 different brands, I have only had problems with some silver top 2x's for cdrmedia.com that just really sucked, I think they were accus. I must say though that I have had good luck with princos with white tops, Verbatim data life plus, ritek (OVER HYPED< OVER PRICED), TDX, Maxwell, Fuji Film etc.. I think if your looking for quality I would just watch what you encode with, try to stick with CCE, all the other programs are for the lazy and unexperiaced.
 

Murr

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Meh, I like TMPGEnc better than CCE. If I'm doing a cartoon or a fairly small DVD-9, I just use DVD Shrink. It rips the movie and compresses it at the same time. Its a somewhat recent technology derived from TV stations; it takes the same time as a normal rip (about 25 min). Then you just make an empty AUDIO_TS file and a VIDEO_TS file with all the stuff you ripped and burn as data. You get a perfect copy with all the menus in less than an hour (with 4x media).
 

Murr

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Whelp, I updated the firmware, and I believe it was the Ritek discs that I was able to burn. I'm not sure because I ordered a pack of different brands and they're not marked. But it was the only disc without a paper label, I dont think Riteks have labels, and I know I ordered one Ritek. But it doesnt play back on my Apex 5131:(, first disc the thing hasnt played!
 

Chu

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Whored from another thread I replied to ealier today...
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Just like CD-R's, basically we have a few factories making all the DVD-R's out there. I do not know who is making Fuji's DVD-R's, but I know it is *NOT* Tayio Yuden like their CD-R's.

Essentially, you got 3 grades of DVD Media. Crap, Good, and Archival.

Crap : Princo is the big name here. $0.60 or cheaper a pop, and extreemly high failure rates.

Decent : Ritek is the big name here. You used to be able to get Ritek media for $0.80-$1.00 a disc. No longer. Still though, for anything except temporary storage, the Ritek G03/G04 media is the absolute cheapest you should consider. You can find G03's for $1.20-$1.30 a pop shipped. These are great for DVD-Video, since a MPEG2 stream can take quite a bit of degredation before it becomes unusable. Of course, that assumes your TOC is fine, but considering the inner ring is the most stable and that is where the TOC is, your pretty safe.

Archival : The high quality disks. Expect $4 plus a pop. The big names here are Pioneer, and very recently, the new TDK Toughdisks. Use this for important data and stuff that you need to be there 10 years from now, in prestine condition. Many people consider the Tayio-Yuden disks to be in this category as well, which are a steal at $2 a pop (and falling!).

A very quick test of dvd quality is the "thumb test," Run you thumb around the outer edge of the DVD. The smoother -- the better. My Tayio-Yuden's are perfectly smooth. My Ritek's are a little bumpy. My DVD-Pro (these are the bottom of the barrel) actuially cut. This rule will identify the crap disks in a heartbeat, but don't trust it for anything higher then bottom of the barrel.

Also, if you want some analytic data, check out this thread. I really wish I had access to a LiteON DVD writer so I could run some of those myself, but until then, I will pretty much have to stick with this method.

-Chu
 

UNCjigga

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Where's a good website to buy premium 4x media (i.e. Ritek) that doesn't charge too much for shipping? I got a CenDyne 4x DVD-RW with the hacked firmware.
 

Chu

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Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
Where's a good website to buy premium 4x media (i.e. Ritek) that doesn't charge too much for shipping? I got a CenDyne 4x DVD-RW with the hacked firmware.

http://store.yahoo.com/cdrdvdrmedia/newrit4xdvme1.html has them for $1.54 each /w free shipping. Best price I found a week ago when I needed to restock. They're "coated" disks too.

BTW, anyone know a place that has cheap, but good, DVD cases? All the stores that sell them with dvd-r's just have the UBER cheap ones i.e. just stampled out of a flat piece of plastic.

-Chu