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dvd burning: now or later and is it worth the money?

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benjamit

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is the dvd-r format the most compatible of the following: -r, -rw, +r, +rw, -ram?

what is in the 'super drive' from apple?

will it work with PCs? and is it my best bet if i were to get a dvd burner now and still have it compatible with

stand alone entertainment center dvd players in the future

on a side note are all cd burners now cd-rw?
 


<< is the dvd-r format the most compatible of the following: -r, -rw, +r, +rw, -ram? >>



From what I have read it seems so; and I have yet to find a player that won't play my DVD-R's. I have the Pioneer DVR104. The media used can play a major role here I think. Although I have had perfect results with "generic" media so far.



<< what is in the 'super drive' from apple? >>



A Pioneer I read. (the latest is the A04 or 104)



<< will it work with PCs? >>



Just get a Pioneer for the PC. I am not sure if the MAC's use a similar interface.



<< and is it my best bet if i were to get a dvd burner now and still have it compatible with

stand alone entertainment center dvd players in the future >>



That shouldn't be an issue.



<< on a side note are all cd burners now cd-rw? >>

I have not seen one that doesn't do RW.

Making DVD backups is not that simple, but it is not unreasonably hard either. With the right tools it can be done rather well though. You definitely will need this tool and a few others. http://mpucoder.kewlhair.com/Derrow/index.html He has some guides to get started also.

Making your own DVD's from recorded video is much better than trying to compress the footage down to fit on a CD-R, that is for sure.


 
It's a mixed bag.

As for downsizing films to fit on CD-R, you also have to downsize them to fit on DVD-R. Until 1:1 copies are possible, I won't be bothering with it. 🙂

DVD-R is a reasonably compatible format, but the standards war is still brewing. Today's units will be but memoirs in the not-so-distant future.
 
'Today's units will be but memoirs in the not-so-distant future'

that's what i was thinking but if a person has an immediate need for one now i think the price is not too bad

i got a 10x cdrw hp when the top model of most brands was 12x and that costed 250

380 or so is not too bad

i think i'll wait a couple of months to see what happens

i'm not interested in 1:1 for movies that much

movie dvd are fairly priced and even better when on sale

i just wanted a way to have several mpeg, avi, etc on one disc

as it is now after encoding to vcd, one avi (japanese animation) takes most of a cdr

on a side note my stand alone dvd player, even though it says that it plays vcd, doesn't seem to recognize my home made vcds

how fast can it be if these dvd burners now are 2x for a disc that's over 4 gigs, a few hours to burn?

 


<< As for downsizing films to fit on CD-R, you also have to downsize them to fit on DVD-R. >>



Not always, but yes most of the time, depending. You can just split the movie into 2 to keep the quality and avoid having to recode the movie. It depends on what all is in the vob's and what you really want/need to keep as you are probably aware. Out of my collection of say 20 DVD's I have only about 4 that can be 1:1. The rest are DVD-9 and long movies.



<< Until 1:1 copies are possible, I won't be bothering with it. >>



What do you think the hold up is? Is it technology? Meaning burning dual layer. Or is it outside influence making the drive companies cripple the abilities.

simple 1:1 copies may never be a reality if the MPAA gets its way.

Regardless, the storage advantages now are worth it IMO. 700MB vs 4,500MB.



<< the standards war is still brewing. Today's units will be but memoirs in the not-so-distant future. >>



I think these drives and the discs they make will still work in future players. I don't think that will be an issue. I think the capacity and , of course, the speeds will increase due to natural progression though. I doubt a standard to change all standards will be created, although it will be nice when they get this crap worked out; however it may be.

I'm betting on DVD-R or something resembling it. Look at the mess the +RW camp is in right now.



<< how fast can it be if these dvd burners now are 2x for a disc that's over 4 gigs, a few hours to burn? >>



Pioneer made an attempt to convince people to buy their media by forcing 1x burning with non-Pioneer media. With that in mind, I can burn a full disk in about 45 minutes on generic media. 2X is under 30 minutes I've heard. I have not been willing to spend $10 on a pioneer disc when I can get the generic gold/purple for about $2. I can wait.

I've read that Pioneer is soon-to-be removing the 1x restriction and other supported media will be able to burn at 2x. Over 4 gigs in under 30 minutes sounds pretty sweet.
 
I'm waiting for DVD-R to mature. They're only 4.5GB (where the hell are the dual-layered drives!?!), they're to slow, don't feature any burn-proof equivelant yet, the media is still too expensive, and compatibility is still very dependant on how old your DVD player is. It's just a very new technology that needs to grow up. If I decide on getting one that only burns 4.5GB, I'm probably going to wait for 3rd gen drives to come about. Hopefully by then they'll get that painstakingly slow "4GB in 30 minutes" down to a much more reasonable 10-15 minutes (or less).

Also I want to see who becomes dominant - DVD-RW or DVD+RW. I don't want to end up on the loosing end of that betamax vs. VHS war again 🙂
 


<< Hopefully by then they'll get that painstakingly slow "4GB in 30 minutes" down to a much more reasonable 10-15 minutes (or less). >>


30 mins isnt bad for 4.5gb of data... my 4x scsi burner takes 20 mins for a full 700mb cd
 
DVD+RW writes a 2.4x which is a full DVD in a bit under 25 minutes. I'm not aware of any buffer underrun protection for DVD writers, but I don't see much importance if the disc is rewriteable. It's been literally years since I've had a bufferrun on any optical writer.
 


<< DVD+RW writes a 2.4x which is a full DVD in a bit under 25 minutes. I'm not aware of any buffer underrun protection for DVD writers, but I don't see much importance if the disc is rewriteable. It's been literally years since I've had a bufferrun on any optical writer. >>


The Pioneer DVD-RW drives have buffer underrun protection, and DVD-RAM drives don't need it.
 
1:1 copies of DVD's is possible today. That's for a good bit of the movies out there. Anything that is dual layer won't fit on a 4.7 (really 4.38) disc. Just from a storage point of view it's nice to do 4.3GB instead of a 700MB CDR. By X-MAS the current drives will cost less then $299 and the media should come down a bit more.
 
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