Duron /A7V tweaking options help.

[rigor3]

So I got my A7V + duron running at 950mghz.

This was a replacement for my BX and celeron 633 @950.

Got it all running so far.

My 3dmark 2000 score went from 5020 to 5105.

woopie doo. Thats not really much for all this cash.

Any tips of speeding up this chip. Seems like Spending $230 on a setup like should yield maybe 10-20% more speed. Ideas??

 

[blammo22]

3DMarks are kinda video-card dependent, so if your CPUs are close in speed, you may not see much difference with the same video card. Try looking at your CPU 3DMarks - there might be a bigger difference there...

Also, I wouldn't expect that much of a difference between a Celeron II (BX@100MHz OC) and Duron when both are at 950MHz - the major difference should be in apps like Word, etc. that use the L1/L2 cache a lot. For just raw CPU/FPU performance, they're more or less equivalent...

To be honest, I would be happy with a Celeron II at 950MHz... I don't see why you went for the Duron system?

 

[rigor3]

It's faster indeed when i run the PC-100 at PC-133 Cas 3. Big time. like in the order of 20%. Thank god my memory can hack pc-125. Now if i can get pc-150 I can play bump the fsb to get a gighz

I think this chip has the potential to hit 1000, if now, dump it as a 950 guaranteed chip to the next guy, and get a T-bird that will dance at 1000.

If i remember, a duron = tbird - 100mghz roughly.

Good learning experience no less. Now i sell my celeron @950

 

[fxsts]

Duron and Thunderbird are greast chips. However, In my personal opinion (no flame please), the VIA chipsets still suck. When you compare BX or 815 with VIA133A, it is clear that VIA does not perform as well as Intel's. For that reason, if AMD finishes their own chipset, you will really see the full performance of Duron/Athlon. At least, I am hoping.

 

[HecDTec]

I believe if you can cool it well enough you can make it to a Gig. Why not? If I probably had a better HSF I could probably get over the 1 Ghz hurdle. A Celery in no way can come close to an AMD Duron. Just check anyone who has reviewed one to the other. The Duron benchmarks closer to the PIII than anything else. Run SIS Sandra or Winbench99 and see for yourself.

 

[wesman2]

Most reviews run the 66mhz bus of the celeron agains the 100mhz bus of the duron, but if you oc the celeron to 100mhz it's a much closer match. I think anandtech has an artical comparing oc celerons and durons, and the duron is slightly faster in most situations.
Not that I recomend going for the celeron. I'm running a duron and for a built from scratch system it's great and cheap, but I would not recommend switching if you already have the $ invested in a working celeron @950.


As for the topic of this tread, what are your settings for the AV7? did you try overclocking the FSB? you cant get the extreme oc ratios on the FSB that you can with some BX systems but 5-10% bump in the FSB can help if your memory can handle it.
And I agree that the 3dmark2000 program is too dependent on the video card, unless all you care about is 3d performance. You may not be able to run benchmark programs on your celeron system (if you striped it for your duron system), but a cpu focused benchmark will show the differences more clearly.