Duron 950 Mhz Some plz help. I am tired of bumping

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kulki

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I recently bought a barebones system for overstrock with 950Mhz duron. I installed XP, ME, Win 98 SE and all the drivers that came along with it. In each case whenever I launch IE the computer simply restarts.
ANy suggestions?
 
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Dan

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kulki: I have almost the same situation with a system I put together for a customer. I started with a barebones from Fry's: Duron 950MHz chip on a SoyoTek mobo. He says it keeps resetting on him, especially when he's online. I originally set up a dual boot, Win98SE and WinXP but subsequently removed XP.

When I built the system, in late October he said it was resetting so I replaced the 512MB stick of SDRAM with a 256MB stick. That seemed to resolve the problem. Out the blue last week he called and said that after about a week it started up with the random resets again. (Why he waited nearly 4 months to contact me, I'll never know.)

Anyway, I got the system from him and I want to settle this once and for all. I did a little research in other threads. The concensus in those was that the culprit could be a faulty power supply, video drivers or the mobo itself.

I'll let you know what sort of progress I make. Please let me know if you come up with anything.
 
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kulki

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darn thats exactly what I have set up to. I got it from overstock but its soyo MB. It just keeps randonly resetting for no particular reason. I installed the latest drivers but no use. I have put just a 128 MB stick. The vidoe card and sound card or onboard. I have no clue what to do now. I read at some other forums about this exact complaint. But no solution was posted. ANy suggestions on what to do?
 
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Dan

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kulki: I answered your PM. And here's a bump for our mutual problem.
 
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dmcowen674

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Hi Kulki,

When the computer resets can you tell if the hard drive shut down or lost power during the restart? I'm focusing on the power supply because it sounds like the motherboard is losing the 5 volt rail. When you press the reset button, it is a power interruption on the 5 volt rail on the motherboard that makes a computer motherboard resart without shutting off the power switch completely, it is easier on all the components than a hard shut down and restart. It sounds like the 5 Volt rail dropping out acting like a press of the reset button. The hard drive motor which uses the 12 volt rail should continue to run. One other posted that they have the same SOYO motherboard but didn't mention if it is the same power supply. If it is then most likely you guys are suffering from the same lame power supply. Hopefully it is not the motherboard since you guys have the same one. Just common denominators here. Try running it with a known good power supply.

Dave
 
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dmcowen674: Thanks for the imput. I'll pick up a new power supply this afternoon and give it a shot.
 
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kulki

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how do I know how many watt is the PS? There is a sticker there but it just shows numbers fro 150W all the way to 400W. ANyways thanks for the suggestion. I will have to buy a new PS and see what happens. Where do u recommend I get a new PS from?
 
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dmcowen674

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Hopefully you have an Industry standard sized power supply in the computer case. One of the things that separates a clone computer from a brand computer is that the brand computers such a Hewlett Packard, Gateway, Compaq etc come up with their own case design that doesn?t fit a normal industry standard power supply and they make their own sized power supply. They also tend to make their own motherboard too which means you just can?t run down to the nearest Computer store/shop and get a replacement or upgrade motherboard or power supply, you are forced to by the parts from them which would be much higher priced (usually double or more) or worse must send the computer back to them for repair or upgrade.

For the standard ATX power supply there are two kinds and it is the power output ability that sets them apart and their price. For 1 gig or less computers with very little in the way of accessories such as a CD-ROM burner you can get a cheap 250 Watt power supply that runs around $20.

For most computers running over 1 gig Hz these days only a 300 watt power supply will do and they run around $30. Some computer shops even have AMD ?approved? supplies that are normally about $5 more. If you are running an AMD XP chip I would highly recommend the AMD approved supply because that means the power supply has a better chance of surviving the ?inrush? of current needed to initially power up these super high speed chips as we break 2 gig and beyond.

Dave
 
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kulki

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dmcowen674:Thanks for ur reply. ANy idea as to how to find out how many watts is the PS?
 
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kulki

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ok
I just borrowed a different PS from a friend,. I also put in different memory and also took out the Mobo and put it back very carefully again. My computer dosent give that many reboots when I am in safe mode, hoiwever in normal mode it reboots almost as soon as I start IE.
I am trying to download the drivers from soyo but before it complete my computer reboots:(
I am on s7-k7vempro
what do I do? anyone has any suggestions where I can get the drivers from?
 
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MoFunk

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You may also want to flash the BIOS. Also does that board have jumpers that sets the FSB and Multiplier? If so you may want to try and underclock and see if that helps. Other than that is it only IE? Can you leave your system running longer without going into IE?
 
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Dan

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Progress Report: I swapped out the power supply and ran Ontrack's System Utilities. Then I launched a CPU stability test and went to grab a nap. :)

The system has been running the stability test, with no resets, for 2 hours, 15 minutes+. I'll let it run through the night. If it hasn't reset itself by the time I need to leave for work I'll button it up an return it to my customer. I figure if it can run a stability test for nearly 14 hours with no resets its good to go.
 
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MoFunk

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You know what else you guys may want to test is the power switch. I built a system for a client that did that now that I am thinking of it. I switched out everything! Someone suggested the power button. So I unhooked the power button lead from the motherboard and shorted the posts with a screw driver. Ran solid all night. Next day plugged it back in and got resets! So you may want to test that as well.
 
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kulki

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computer dosent reboot that easily when I load in safe mode. However as soon I a start in normal mode computer immediately reboots.
 
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Another update: My customer said the resetting problem was worst when he went online. He even gave me a list of specific sites where it always reset. I shut down the stability test and went online (AOL!!!) for 75 minutes. Naturally I went to each of the sites on his list. No resets. Looks like, in my case at least, a faulty power supply was indeed the culprit.

Just to be safe, I'm running the stability test again, and will keep it going until I leave for work at 3:15 tomorrow morning. In the meantime, here's a bump for kulki.
 
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Bios direct link.

K7VEM Pro 2MB BIOS Files

vemo2ca1.bin

release date: (01/24/2002)
BIOS Revision: K7VEM Pro_2ca1
Changes: Fixed system restart when
using Duron/Athlon cpu & PC133 memory.

worked for me, I got three of these systems from my local fry's. No restarts after this. Good Luck.
 
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have you tried underclocking, lowering the fsb to 100 and the multiplier down a few if its not locked. also increase the voltage up some, a notch or two
 
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kulki

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honestly guys,
I had given up all hopes of fixing this computer. But you have given me new hopes to solve this problem. Thank u a million times. I will go home and see if I can flash the bios and get the computer running.
 
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kulki

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how do I flash the bios?
EDIt:
I flashed the bios. It shows K7vemPRO-ca1 when I boot. SO does that mean I have done the flashing correctly?
Still my computer reboots every time I boot in windows. Should I need to reinstall windows after flashing?
 
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kulki

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woohooo
For the first time since I bought this stinking computer it hasnt rebooted for a while now.
I flashed the bios and then cleared the CMOS. What tests should I run to test its stability?
 
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<< woohooo
For the first time since I bought this stinking computer it hasnt rebooted for a while now.
I flashed the bios and then cleared the CMOS. What tests should I run to test its stability? >>



Run Seti for TeAm Anandtech, that will test that bad boy for ya! Check my sig.
 
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