Dumbest criminal ever?

SAWYER

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/...6mar26,1,5742126.story
By Dan P. Blake | Tribune reporter
11:01 PM CDT, March 25, 2008

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Robbers don't usually leave phone numbers behind, but on Monday, at a Northwest Side muffler shop, a man asked employees to give him a call when their boss came back to open a safe, an employee said Tuesday.

When the 18-year-old returned a few hours later, plainclothes Chicago police officers shot and wounded him in the leg, police said. Ruben Zarate of the 5100 of West Schubert Avenue was charged Tuesday with attempted armed robbery and aggravated assault of a police officer, the Cook County state's attorney's office said.

The incident started about 8 a.m., when the masked man, armed with a revolver, came in to Velasquez Mufflers For Less at 2600 N. Laramie Ave. and began demanding money, said Jose Sida, 37, a mechanic.

Employees told him they had little money and couldn't open the safe, so the man left two phone numbers for them to call when the owner returned with the combination, Sida said.

"He said, 'You guys better call me because otherwise I'm going to come back to shoot you,'" Sida said.

Instead, an employee called Chicago police.

Officers dressed in plainclothes came to the shop and told employees to call the man, Sida said. The man returned about noon, wearing the same mask and black clothing and officers told the employees to get to the back of the shop, Sida said.

A police source said the teen pulled a gun from his hooded sweat shirt and at least one officer opened fire. Zarate's injury was not thought to be life-threatening, the source said.

Mark Payne, a spokesman for the Independent Police Review Authority, said the man was treated at Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center for a gunshot wound. He said his agency was investigating the police-involved shooting but said that the inquiry would take six months to complete and that he could not release any details.

Sida said the teen's idea to leave his phone numbers was "stupid," but said employees were just following police instructions to call him back.

Employees now are worried the man's friends may return to get back at the shop employees for calling police.

"We followed police instructions, otherwise he would have come back for sure [to rob us]," Sida said.

Tribune reporter Angela Rozas contributed to this report.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Sawyer
http://www.chicagotribune.com/...6mar26,1,5742126.story
By Dan P. Blake | Tribune reporter
11:01 PM CDT, March 25, 2008

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Robbers don't usually leave phone numbers behind, but on Monday, at a Northwest Side muffler shop, a man asked employees to give him a call when their boss came back to open a safe, an employee said Tuesday.

When the 18-year-old returned a few hours later, plainclothes Chicago police officers shot and wounded him in the leg, police said. Ruben Zarate of the 5100 of West Schubert Avenue was charged Tuesday with attempted armed robbery and aggravated assault of a police officer, the Cook County state's attorney's office said.

The incident started about 8 a.m., when the masked man, armed with a revolver, came in to Velasquez Mufflers For Less at 2600 N. Laramie Ave. and began demanding money, said Jose Sida, 37, a mechanic.

Employees told him they had little money and couldn't open the safe, so the man left two phone numbers for them to call when the owner returned with the combination, Sida said.

"He said, 'You guys better call me because otherwise I'm going to come back to shoot you,'" Sida said.

Instead, an employee called Chicago police.

Officers dressed in plainclothes came to the shop and told employees to call the man, Sida said. The man returned about noon, wearing the same mask and black clothing and officers told the employees to get to the back of the shop, Sida said.

A police source said the teen pulled a gun from his hooded sweat shirt and at least one officer opened fire. Zarate's injury was not thought to be life-threatening, the source said.

Mark Payne, a spokesman for the Independent Police Review Authority, said the man was treated at Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center for a gunshot wound. He said his agency was investigating the police-involved shooting but said that the inquiry would take six months to complete and that he could not release any details.

Sida said the teen's idea to leave his phone numbers was "stupid," but said employees were just following police instructions to call him back.

Employees now are worried the man's friends may return to get back at the shop employees for calling police.

"We followed police instructions, otherwise he would have come back for sure [to rob us]," Sida said.

Tribune reporter Angela Rozas contributed to this report.

^^^^

dumbest copy and paster.
 

clamum

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Mark Payne, a spokesman for the Independent Police Review Authority, said the man was treated at Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center for a gunshot wound. He said his agency was investigating the police-involved shooting but said that the inquiry would take six months to complete and that he could not release any details.
Six months!? Holy crap. I wonder why so long...
 

nismotigerwvu

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But wait, I thought police officers we not trained to shoot in the legs or anything besides shooting to kill becuase it was "an unreasonable, if not impossible task". You can't have both here....
 

crystal

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Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
But wait, I thought police officers we not trained to shoot in the legs or anything besides shooting to kill becuase it was "an unreasonable, if not impossible task". You can't have both here....

who says anything about they aimed for the legs?
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
But wait, I thought police officers we not trained to shoot in the legs or anything besides shooting to kill becuase it was "an unreasonable, if not impossible task". You can't have both here....

who says anything about they aimed for the legs?

That's what I'm thinkin
 

FDF12389

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Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
If you aim for chest and hit leg you don't deserve to have a gun....

Depends on the distance. As someone who has drawn up before I can tell you right now you have no idea the how the stress of the situation changes things very quickly.

In this situation where they knew he would be coming back, and had ample time to prepare, I find it very unacceptable that the situation contained any gunfire.
 

nismotigerwvu

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Well I was more alluding to the whole "Sh!tstorm" of police brutality cases over the last year or so and the defense for unloading a clip into a man's chest was that shooting the legs or anything short of shooting to kill was totally impossible. The only gun I've ever fired has been a 9mm and that was at a range and I don't quite remeber the paper target being much of a threat. I totaly agree that gunfire seems a bit overkill when they are the ones setting the trap