Dumbest cosplay ever

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Does make me wonder where the line is (I don't mean the Elizabeth line). If he were dressed as a Star Wars stormtrooper, with a "blaster", presumably the response would have been different (not least because obviously he'd not be able to actually hit anyone). And had it been the US would it have been different and not caused alarm, because open carry is 'normal', or would it have been worse because it would have been more plausible that it was real, and some other armed person would have shot him?

(and, yes, I realise it wasn't a "sniper rifle", but that's not the main point)
 

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If he were dressed as a Star Wars stormtrooper

One thing I never got is why people are so excited to cosplay as Space Nazis. I mean it was not exactly subtle in the movies.
 

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Does make me wonder where the line is (I don't mean the Elizabeth line). If he were dressed as a Star Wars stormtrooper, with a "blaster", presumably the response would have been different (not least because obviously he'd not be able to actually hit anyone). And had it been the US would it have been different and not caused alarm, because open carry is 'normal', or would it have been worse because it would have been more plausible that it was real, and some other armed person would have shot him?

(and, yes, I realise it wasn't a "sniper rifle", but that's not the main point)
Er, why were people filming him rather than body checking him and beating his ass into the hospital while he assembled that thing.
 
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The fucking idiot was bearing the rifle at the ready position, leaving the impression that he was about to imminently raise it to the firing position. If that's not presenting himself as a threat I don't know what is. Some people's children I tell 'ya. And reading further, he actually pointed that rifle at passengers too?

I wonder if he'd actually survive that stunt in New York's subway system.
 
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One thing I never got is why people are so excited to cosplay as Space Nazis. I mean it was not exactly subtle in the movies.

It's way too subtle for people that can't actually pick out a nazi giving the nazi salute multiple times.
 
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Er, why were people filming him rather than body checking him and beating his ass into the hospital while he assembled that thing.
Because, outside of a military base, no one has access to those guns here so everyone assumed that he was just an idiot.
I mean he should still get a bit of a kicking to remind him how much of an idiot he is but I can see why everyone assumed that it was a fake gun.
 
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One thing I never got is why people are so excited to cosplay as Space Nazis. I mean it was not exactly subtle in the movies.
I'll take fantasy space Nazis over the brain dead modern actual Nazis any day!
 

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Because, outside of a military base, no one has access to those guns here so everyone assumed that he was just an idiot.
I mean he should still get a bit of a kicking to remind him how much of an idiot he is but I can see why everyone assumed that it was a fake gun.
Maybe that's trauma from being an American, or maybe it's just training from being in the military, but I assume everything that looks like a gun is an actual gun. Helps that we have shit like this floating around:
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Maybe that's trauma from being an American, or maybe it's just training from being in the military, but I assume everything that looks like a gun is an actual gun. Helps that we have shit like this floating around:
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I remember bringing those up in thread with someone where I was saying that Americans have a weird fetishism about guns and they were saying that they are just tools!
 
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I remember bringing those up in thread with someone where I was saying that Americans have a weird fetishism about guns and they were saying that they are just tools!

Well at least they were big enough to admit they are tools. That sort of self deprecation is refreshing honestly.
 
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Haha, I mean, they are a tool, but when tools use tools it's a fetish.
My point was that they can be tools but Americans have fetishized them and now they are very much not treated or used as tools by Americans!

But I do appreciate your 'tools' pun!
 
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My firearms are looked at as a means to gather meat and enjoy the accomplishment that I'm able to do that. I can provide for my family and loved ones. Neat-o, Groovy, far out.

That being said, as a gadget freak of sorts where I admire things that rely on a pile of dynamically related parts that can produce a certain result with accuracy, repeatability and reliability like a fine watch, or a car's engine, a professionally designed and built camera, a jet engine or even the lock on our home's doors, I admire the craftsmanship and precision it takes for a firearm to do its job of reliably sending rounds downrange where I want it to go, especially at a distance.

As a choice of primary sidearm, I chose a Korth because its features exhibit the same qualities I expect from the race engines I built for my beloved Corvette, or the lawnmowers I refurb for myself and my neighbor.

So this thing about having a fetish for an object, in this particular instance a firearm, well it can be viewed in different ways, at different levels of....say, appreciation, for lack of a better way at describing it. Some folks just like to shoot them and have someone else service them to keep it's accuracy and reliability. Me I like to tinker, I like to see what I can do to make them even more reliable, or in the case of an engine, not blow itself up at 8K RPM.

So in some ways I may be seen as a fetishist, yet folks of my ilk we see each other as enthusiasts, all of it depending on a person's perspective, I guess.
 
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My firearms are looked at as a means to gather meat and enjoy the accomplishment that I'm able to do that. I can provide for my family and loved ones. Neat-o, Groovy, far out.

That being said, as a gadget freak of sorts where I admire things that rely on a pile of dynamically related parts that can produce a certain result with accuracy, repeatability and reliability like a fine watch, or a car's engine, a professionally designed and built camera, a jet engine or even the lock on our home's doors, I admire the craftsmanship and precision it takes for a firearm to do its job of reliably sending rounds downrange where I want it to go, especially at a distance.

As a choice of primary sidearm, I chose a Korth because its features exhibit the same qualities I expect from the race engines I built for my beloved Corvette, or the lawnmowers I refurb for myself and my neighbor.

So this thing about having a fetish for an object, in this particular instance a firearm, well it can be viewed in different ways, at different levels of....say, appreciation, for lack of a better way at describing it. Some folks just like to shoot them and have someone else service them to keep it's accuracy and reliability. Me I like to tinker, I like to see what I can do to make them even more reliable, or in the case of an engine, not blow itself up at 8K RPM.

So in some ways I may be seen as a fetishist, yet folks of my ilk we see each other as enthusiasts, all of it depending on a person's perspective, I guess.
Yup, there's a huge, huge difference between an enthusiast (who's enthusiasm usually bleeds over into many other realms) and someone who fetishizes something they probably shouldn't.
 
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My firearms are looked at as a means to gather meat and enjoy the accomplishment that I'm able to do that. I can provide for my family and loved ones. Neat-o, Groovy, far out.

That being said, as a gadget freak of sorts where I admire things that rely on a pile of dynamically related parts that can produce a certain result with accuracy, repeatability and reliability like a fine watch, or a car's engine, a professionally designed and built camera, a jet engine or even the lock on our home's doors, I admire the craftsmanship and precision it takes for a firearm to do its job of reliably sending rounds downrange where I want it to go, especially at a distance.

As a choice of primary sidearm, I chose a Korth because its features exhibit the same qualities I expect from the race engines I built for my beloved Corvette, or the lawnmowers I refurb for myself and my neighbor.

So this thing about having a fetish for an object, in this particular instance a firearm, well it can be viewed in different ways, at different levels of....say, appreciation, for lack of a better way at describing it. Some folks just like to shoot them and have someone else service them to keep it's accuracy and reliability. Me I like to tinker, I like to see what I can do to make them even more reliable, or in the case of an engine, not blow itself up at 8K RPM.

So in some ways I may be seen as a fetishist, yet folks of my ilk we see each other as enthusiasts, all of it depending on a person's perspective, I guess.
This is terrifying deviant thinking and may be the result of a Y chromosome and a high mechanical aptitude. In a world full of lockstep anti-gun religiously programmed bigots, driven insane by the gun kooks on the other side, you could easily be swept out to sea as by the lemmings running over the cliff. Never leave the mother ship alone or wear a disguise.

But the question of fanaticism is interesting. Where does one draw the line. The feeling I might be too far gone has prevented me from one of my greatest desires, well that and the cost. I want a real elk horn grips for my Sig P238 but can't seem to pull the trigger.
 

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This is terrifying deviant thinking and may be the result of a Y chromosome and a high mechanical aptitude. In a world full of lockstep anti-gun religiously programmed bigots, driven insane by the gun kooks on the other side, you could easily be swept out to sea as by the lemmings running over the cliff. Never leave the mother ship alone or wear a disguise.

But the question of fanaticism is interesting. Where does one draw the line. The feeling I might be too far gone has prevented me from one of my greatest desires, well that and the cost. I want a real elk horn grips for my Sig P238 but can't seem to pull the trigger.

For myself, the limiting factor in all of my quests for near perfection of whatever it is that my heart fancies to pursue is that virtual big 'ol cast iron frying pan and for real rolled up newspaper my wifey can swing with the practiced hand and ease of a tennis pro. She dutifully keeps my fanaticism in check and I truly appreciate her wisdom and practicality like I appreciate being a victim of a broken traffic light stuck on red with not a single car, pedestrian, stray dog or miscreant juvenile repeatedly pressing the pedestrian button on the opposing side of the street in sight to justify that red light and traffic cam beaming it's accusing light in my defiant frustrated face, with my endurance for obeying the law when there's no logical reason to being weighed and tested by each wasted passing microsecond of my life.


Without her matrimonial jurisprudence that restricts my fanaticism from running amok, I and the home I reside in would in every sense of the word look like those Hoarders TV series "victims", happy to live in the squalor of all of those cool gadgets that I simply had to have and could not go on living without.

I realize I desperately need help.....toward buying more gadgets that I'll instantly lose among the pile of existing gadgets, doohickies and thingamajigs that really really needed but not really.

edit - diction.
 
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I get the fascination with technical objects and the desire to 'collect' them (I have a truly excessive number of portable digital music players, for example, and when I was cycling accumulated a stupid number of bike lights of different types along with other bike-related gadgets like odometers).

It's just a shame that when guns are freely available the obsessive personality can end up focussing on collecting them. I mean, I know I feel my numerous modded ipods and the rest crying out to be to be used, and I worry/suspect that people who collect guns of every different type feel the same urges (and maybe a firing-range doesn't fill that impulse sufficiently for a minority of them?).
 
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I get the fascination with technical objects and the desire to 'collect' them (I have a truly excessive number of portable digital music players, for example, and when I was cycling accumulated a stupid number of bike lights of different types along with other bike-related gadgets like odometers).

It's just a shame that when guns are freely available the obsessive personality can end up focussing on collecting them. I mean, I know I feel my numerous modded ipods and the rest crying out to be to be used, and I worry/suspect that people who collect guns of every different type feel the same urges (and maybe a firing-range doesn't fill that impulse sufficiently for a minority of them?).
Eh that's still something of a red herring. It's an uninspired twist on the 'violent video games encourage violent behaviors' thought process. A firearm is an object, it does nothing on its own. It permits destructive behaviors to be more destructive or lethal, but collecting hunks of steel and plastic/wood has no greater or lesser significance than collecting anything else.
 

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Eh that's still something of a red herring. It's an uninspired twist on the 'violent video games encourage violent behaviors' thought process. A firearm is an object, it does nothing on its own. It permits destructive behaviors to be more destructive or lethal, but collecting hunks of steel and plastic/wood has no greater or lesser significance than collecting anything else.

I don't think so - that's a poor analogy.. It's not like saying "violent video games encourage violent behaviours' (something I don't believe is true), it's akin to saying that violent video games encourage you to play those violent video games. Which I do think they do. If you have them, you want to play them (even when it starts to feel like a chore, goddamit).

Just saying that an aspect of obsessing over objects is a desire to make use of them. Same is true of those I know who own a dozen different bikes. Maybe deciding to take that beyond "target shooting at a range" needs some additional factor, though, I'd concede.

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For myself, the limiting factor in all of my quests for near perfection of whatever it is that my heart fancies to pursue is that virtual big 'ol cast iron frying pan and for real rolled up newspaper my wifey can swing with the practiced hand and ease of a tennis pro. She dutifully keeps my fanaticism in check and I truly appreciate her wisdom and practicality like I appreciate being a victim of a broken traffic light stuck on red with not a single car, pedestrian, stray dog or miscreant juvenile repeatedly pressing the pedestrian button on the opposing side of the street in sight to justify that red light and traffic cam beaming it's accusing light in my defiant frustrated face, with my endurance for obeying the law when there's no logical reason to being weighed and tested by each wasted passing microsecond of my life.


Without her matrimonial jurisprudence that restricts my fanaticism from running amok, I and the home I reside in would in every sense of the word look like those Hoarders TV series "victims", happy to live in the squalor of all of those cool gadgets that I simply had to have and could not go on living without.

I realize I desperately need help.....toward buying more gadgets that I'll instantly lose among the pile of existing gadgets, doohickies and thingamajigs that really really needed but not really.

edit - diction.
God, what a joy to read this. It's somehow satisfying to know I am not completely alone. I fear I have the same disease, a lifetime affliction I am struggling to fix. Somewhere back when I think I threw away, more than on one occasion, something I almost immediately could have used if I hadn't. That hasn't happened since but the problem now is that while I still have it, I can never find it among its collection of friends.