Dumbest business decision ever

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: v1001
I bet most those people are fatties and overweight. I hate how I always have to freeze because I'm in shape and all the fatties want an arctic wind constantly blowing on them.

78 is pretty uncomfortable if you have zero air movement, moderate humidity, and are wearing long sleeves. Being fat has nothing to do with it.

Yea i know what you mean. I was wearing a turtle neck sweater with a ski jacket on and can't believe they don;t keep it at 60.

Not everyone can wear shorts, T-shirt, and sandals to work.

Luckily I can if I want, but I do feel a bit... overly casual if I do.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: v1001
I bet most those people are fatties and overweight. I hate how I always have to freeze because I'm in shape and all the fatties want an arctic wind constantly blowing on them.

Different people have different preferences for temperature.

The main factor to determine what temperature range somebody is comfortable is by measuring their metabolism and dividing it by their surface area. Just "being fat" or "being thin" doesn't make one like warm or cool temperatures.

If you have high metabolism, then you're preferred temperature range is going to be lower. Fat people often have a slightly higher metabolism than thin people, and they also usually have a higher surface area. (though for many, the metabolism grows faster than the surface area, thus resulting in a cooler temperature preference.)


All that being said, I've put on about 60 pounds since 1998 when I graduated from High School. I was of a pretty athletic build in High School (swam 5K yards 6 days per week, lifted weights 3 days per week) and I actually like it a bit warmer than I used to.

Back then, I was perfectly comfortable in shorts and a T-shirt in the low 40s with no jacket or anything.
Now that I have more surface area (my belly has grown, my legs and arms are smaller, but not significantly so), and my metabolism has dropped (Burn about 3000 or so calories per day instead of well over 6000 when I was very active) I usually wear a jacket if it gets below 50.

Anyhow, anybody who says "everybody who likes cooler temperatures is fat" really has no idea what they are talking about and they are making false assumptions. I suspect they are proud owners of the "jump ... to conclusions mat".

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: nerp
In the winter, people would walk into a 78 degree office and jump for joy. In the summer, same exact indoor environment and they complain it's too hot.

In the summer, people walk into a heavily air conditioned office at 65 degrees and jump for joy. In the winter, same exact indoor environment, and they complain it's too cold.

Learn how to sieze control over your mind and perceptions and you won't be a victim of illusion anymore.

:thumbsup:

In Summer, I complain when it's above 70 degrees.
In Winter, I complain when it's above 70 degrees.

My preference for cooler temperatures is not seasonal. Usually the office is between 68 and 72 year round, and I use an oscillating fan 90% of the time, year round. Sometimes I use 2 fans when it gets really hot (like 72 or maybe even 73!)

 

[NikolaeVarius]

55-65 is the perfect temperature for me, all year round. I complain if its over 70.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
I would protest if they bumped the AC warmer than about 72. If it got hotter then 75, well, I would violate corporate dress code and come in wearing shorts and a t-shirt. If it got warmer than 80, then I would just go home. I hate hot weather. In the winter as long as they keep it 50 degrees or warmer (but still less than 70), I'm content.

Yup. I refuse to be anywhere warmer than 70. My house stays between 60 and 70 by the central air, or when it's colder outside i'll open up and let it get down as low as the 50s. Perfectly comfortable in shorts in that weather. If it gets 80 or above I will stroke out, or murder someone. Had heat stroke twice already, don't need it any more.

And to those saying they're all fatties, I've always felt this way...at age 18 with a 27-28inch waste, in SUPER athletic shape, I felt exactly the same. If anything I've been able to stand warmer weather since getting into worse shape.

😕 What's your ancestry, inuit?!

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: DEMO24

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
78! Oh the horror! The huge manatee of it all.

no shit. the coolest i run the a/c at home is 80.

Yep mine is at 78 but my wife wants 80. It was 85 in the house yesterdauy as she could not stand the 78 temp.

How fat are the people in your office that 78 = sweating?

jesus 85 in the house and you are fine with that? damn my A/C went out last week and at night it was 85 and everybody was hating life. i dont know how you can find 85 inside comfortable.... 78 is still too hot for us my ac is set on 74 and its just right.

85 isn't bad as long as you have some moving air and relatively low humidity. All depends on the conditions. I rarely have the a/c set below 80f, and it's only uncomfortable if your doing lots of moving around. Just sitting there with a fan and it's quite nice actually.

bleh, i dont think so. we had 3 nasty nights until our ac was fixed. Colorado is dry but hot is hot and for us 85 was too damn hot, yes we had plenty of fans going along with all the windows open.

 

[oddyager]

I used to work for a city agency whose headquarters was housed in 3 buildings joined as one (they knocked down the walls between them). However only one of the buildings had a functional AC system and rather then pay and fix the other two the city had the 3 vent systems combined. Obviously there wasn't enough cooling so to fix the issue certain sections of the building were blocked overnight (namely areas with people who aren't labeled as directors). The days after people were wondering why the offices were so cold yet the cube areas outside were so hot.

 

[Brovane]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Just because the thermostat is set to 78 doesn't mean the entire building is exactly 78 degrees. Large buildings are hard to maintain at a constant temperature. At my office I have to wear a sweatshirt because there's an AC vent right above me, but the person next to me is too hot.

Also, 78 degrees may not be insanely hot, but when you're inside, not moving, with no breeze, for hours at a time, it can get uncomfortable very easily. I love it when it's 78 degrees outside. But inside? Bearable, but not ideal. And like I said, if you're near a window, or away from an AC vent, it may well be above 78 where you are.

Last thing - what do you wear to work? Can you wear shorts?

That would be my question to is the dress code relaxed. If you can wear shorts and t-shirt then 78 is not bad. If the dress code is shirt and tie then that isn't much fun at 78.

Most of the time our office is cooler but they turn up the thermostat on the weekends in the areas of the building where people are not working. If I am doing work on the weekends I don't mind because I just wear shorts and a t-shirt.

 

[ultimatebob]

Desk fans still take a lot less electricity than Air Conditioners, because it's the compressor that eats up most of the juice. They're still saving some money on this deal. Besides, you should be happy that your company is embracing a "green" initiative or something!

Now, excuse me while I walk back into my 68 degree server room... Muhahahaha! 🙂

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Desk fans still take a lot less electricity than Air Conditioners, because it's the compressor that eats up most of the juice. They're still saving some money on this deal. Besides, you should be happy that your company is embracing a "green" initiative or something!

Now, excuse me while I walk back into my 68 degree server room... Muhahahaha! 🙂

got your ear plugs I hope.

 

[cubeless]

and think of the savings when the 500 little heaters under the women's desks get shut off finally...

 

[0roo0roo]

guess ur employees worth disgruntling.

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Desk fans still take a lot less electricity than Air Conditioners, because it's the compressor that eats up most of the juice. They're still saving some money on this deal. Besides, you should be happy that your company is embracing a "green" initiative or something!

Now, excuse me while I walk back into my 68 degree server room... Muhahahaha! 🙂

got your ear plugs I hope.

Funny thing is that it doesn't too bad in there. The server sounds are pretty muffled, and it just sounds like a big air conditioner.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
I would protest if they bumped the AC warmer than about 72. If it got hotter then 75, well, I would violate corporate dress code and come in wearing shorts and a t-shirt. If it got warmer than 80, then I would just go home. I hate hot weather. In the winter as long as they keep it 50 degrees or warmer (but still less than 70), I'm content.

Yup. I refuse to be anywhere warmer than 70. My house stays between 60 and 70 by the central air, or when it's colder outside i'll open up and let it get down as low as the 50s. Perfectly comfortable in shorts in that weather. If it gets 80 or above I will stroke out, or murder someone. Had heat stroke twice already, don't need it any more.

And to those saying they're all fatties, I've always felt this way...at age 18 with a 27-28inch waste, in SUPER athletic shape, I felt exactly the same. If anything I've been able to stand warmer weather since getting into worse shape.

😕 What's your ancestry, inuit?!

Born and raised here, though my ancestry is mixed scandanavian/european.

 

[Joemonkey]

Hey spidey, your "go green" people must go to the same conferences as ours do, just got an email Friday that all thermostats will be set to 76 now instead of the 72 we had them set at... yay for going home smelly and sweaty!

 

[NoCreativity]

Do they actually save money when productivity is lowered to to the conditions? 78 in our office feels hot due to the cubes blocking any sort of air movement and lack of any opening windows.

 

[spidey07]

UPDATE
You called it. Fans are now banned, they use too much electricity. Temp is staying around 81 degrees.

The policy is now "no electronic devices may be plugged in unless they are property of the company, this includes fans, heaters, personal cell phone chargers or other portable electronics."

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Every employee should be billed for the electricity they consume. It's not fair that all are allocated the same amount while some will use more than average.

 

[dabuddha]

Time to get a note from your doc

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: spidey07
UPDATE
You called it. Fans are now banned, they use too much electricity. Temp is staying around 81 degrees.

The policy is now "no electronic devices may be plugged in unless they are property of the company, this includes fans, heaters, personal cell phone chargers or other portable electronics."

Battery powered fan ftw.

 

[Hoober]

Do they make USB powered fans?

 

[ViviTheMage]

window?

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: Hoober
Do they make USB powered fans?

http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_li...cat_id=005&cat=USB+Fan

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: spidey07
UPDATE
You called it. Fans are now banned, they use too much electricity. Temp is staying around 81 degrees.

The policy is now "no electronic devices may be plugged in unless they are property of the company, this includes fans, heaters, personal cell phone chargers or other portable electronics."

Battery powered fan ftw.

BRILLIANT!

 

[mchammer187]

78 would be unbearable for me in an office type setting (slacks + long sleeve shirt)

I would probably be OKwith it if I was allowed to wear shorts and a t-shirt