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was watching pearl harbor and it was at the part where they were about to bomb us. the kids were playing in a field(baseball maybe?) and one of the tail gunners waved his hand at them, perhaps in a 'get out of here' gesture?

maybe i'm just looking too far into it? looked like to me he was telling them to run away..?
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: DeePee
was watching pearl harbor and it was at the part where they were about to bomb us. the kids were playing in a field(baseball maybe?) and one of the tail gunners waved his hand at them, perhaps in a 'get out of here' gesture?

maybe i'm just looking too far into it? looked like to me he was telling them to run away..?

 

dougp

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Originally posted by: DeePee
was watching pearl harbor and it was at the part where they were about to bomb us. the kids were playing in a field(baseball maybe?) and one of the tail gunners waved his hand at them, perhaps in a 'get out of here' gesture?

maybe i'm just looking too far into it? looked like to me he was telling them to run away..?

Japanese weren't there to target the kids - they were there to disable our military ability ... so perhaps he was waving them away?
 
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Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug
Originally posted by: DeePee
was watching pearl harbor and it was at the part where they were about to bomb us. the kids were playing in a field(baseball maybe?) and one of the tail gunners waved his hand at them, perhaps in a 'get out of here' gesture?

maybe i'm just looking too far into it? looked like to me he was telling them to run away..?

Japanese weren't there to target the kids - they were there to disable our military ability ... so perhaps he was waving them away?

i suppose but the children grow up to be the same adults he's killing on the ships.
 

Elstupido

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Oh hell yeah, those WWII Japs were some really nice guys, Nanking and Bataan ring a bell?
 

Q

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Kind off topic but not really, anyone ever read Under the Blood Red Sun?
 

destrekor

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Remember, it's a love story movie, and a lot of specific events in the movie didn't happen as shown. It probably didn't even happen (the bombers flying over kids playing sports, or if it did... maybe no wave?).
It's not impossible to imagine if such an event did happen, that maybe they would have done that, because as was stated a few posts above, at that point they wouldn't have been targeting kids, just Navy.

Originally posted by: DeePee
Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug
Originally posted by: DeePee
was watching pearl harbor and it was at the part where they were about to bomb us. the kids were playing in a field(baseball maybe?) and one of the tail gunners waved his hand at them, perhaps in a 'get out of here' gesture?

maybe i'm just looking too far into it? looked like to me he was telling them to run away..?

Japanese weren't there to target the kids - they were there to disable our military ability ... so perhaps he was waving them away?

i suppose but the children grow up to be the same adults he's killing on the ships.

So if you go to war, are you going to indiscriminately target kids and adults alike, just because the kids could grow up to be adults that you'll have to kill? Christ, good thing we're not sending you to war. Killing kids is only 'okay' if they are shooting at you, then it's just survival.

Military attacks don't target kids, but if they are at the site where an attack is, they aren't going to hold off the attack.
 
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Originally posted by: destrekor
Remember, it's a love story movie, and a lot of specific events in the movie didn't happen as shown. It probably didn't even happen (the bombers flying over kids playing sports, or if it did... maybe no wave?).
It's not impossible to imagine if such an event did happen, that maybe they would have done that, because as was stated a few posts above, at that point they wouldn't have been targeting kids, just Navy.

Originally posted by: DeePee
Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug
Originally posted by: DeePee
was watching pearl harbor and it was at the part where they were about to bomb us. the kids were playing in a field(baseball maybe?) and one of the tail gunners waved his hand at them, perhaps in a 'get out of here' gesture?

maybe i'm just looking too far into it? looked like to me he was telling them to run away..?

Japanese weren't there to target the kids - they were there to disable our military ability ... so perhaps he was waving them away?

i suppose but the children grow up to be the same adults he's killing on the ships.

So if you go to war, are you going to indiscriminately target kids and adults alike, just because the kids could grow up to be adults that you'll have to kill? Christ, good thing we're not sending you to war. Killing kids is only 'okay' if they are shooting at you, then it's just survival.

Military attacks don't target kids, but if they are at the site where an attack is, they aren't going to hold off the attack.


i wasn't saying i believe in what you quoted me on.. i mainly made this thread because i've never noticed that in the movie.
 

Elstupido

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Remember, it's a love story movie, and a lot of specific events in the movie didn't happen as shown. It probably didn't even happen (the bombers flying over kids playing sports, or if it did... maybe no wave?).
It's not impossible to imagine if such an event did happen, that maybe they would have done that, because as was stated a few posts above, at that point they wouldn't have been targeting kids, just Navy.

Originally posted by: DeePee
Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug
Originally posted by: DeePee
was watching pearl harbor and it was at the part where they were about to bomb us. the kids were playing in a field(baseball maybe?) and one of the tail gunners waved his hand at them, perhaps in a 'get out of here' gesture?

maybe i'm just looking too far into it? looked like to me he was telling them to run away..?

Japanese weren't there to target the kids - they were there to disable our military ability ... so perhaps he was waving them away?

i suppose but the children grow up to be the same adults he's killing on the ships.

So if you go to war, are you going to indiscriminately target kids and adults alike, just because the kids could grow up to be adults that you'll have to kill? Christ, good thing we're not sending you to war. Killing kids is only 'okay' if they are shooting at you, then it's just survival.

Military attacks don't target kids, but if they are at the site where an attack is, they aren't going to hold off the attack.

What the hell does this have to do with the realities of WWII?, or any other war for that matter? Carpet bombing doesn't target kids, just hoping it doesn't kill kids?

LMAO
 

SirStev0

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No one is asking the important question.

WHY THE FUCK WHERE YOU WATCHING THAT SHITTY MOVIE!?!>!>!!>!
 

BoomerD

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I actually liked the movie...put the love story aside, and the graphics during the attack are pretty good. This is a story that needs to NEVER be forgotten.

As for the tail-gunner...Yes, IMO, he was waving them away. There are lots of reports of Japanese pilots waving at civilians and/or not firing at them when they presented themselves as a target...but as a whole, anything that moved WAS a target. There were only about 65-70 civilians killed during the actual attack however. The Japanese restrained themselves fairly well in that regard.

Some of our best friends (and our adopted family) grew up in O'ahu. The oldest son (now dead) was a baby in his crib when the attacks happened, and for many years, they kept that crib...with 2 bullet holes in the headboard. IIRC, they donated it to a Hawaiian group putting together a museum about the attacks.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
I actually liked the movie...put the love story aside, and the graphics during the attack are pretty good. This is a story that needs to NEVER be forgotten.

As for the tail-gunner...Yes, IMO, he was waving them away. There are lots of reports of Japanese pilots waving at civilians and/or not firing at them when they presented themselves as a target...but as a whole, anything that moved WAS a target. There were only about 65-70 civilians killed during the actual attack however. The Japanese restrained themselves fairly well in that regard.

Some of our best friends (and our adopted family) grew up in O'ahu. The oldest son (now dead) was a baby in his crib when the attacks happened, and for many years, they kept that crib...with 2 bullet holes in the headboard. IIRC, they donated it to a Hawaiian group putting together a museum about the attacks.

that's actually a pretty cool story. The movie still sucked: fucking Ben Afflac style.
 

Newbian

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: JS80
I doubt kids are up at 7am playing baseball on a Sunday morning.

THIS!

Well there was no internet then so they had to go outside instead of staying in looking at porn.