Duke vs. UNC - Duke still plays dirty

spidey07

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Replay after replay shows this guy purposefully went for his nose and NOT the ball. I watched the game an it looks pretty clear to me. How many games should he be suspended for? The entire tournament would be the only justice.
 

AmigaMan

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it certainly looked malicious and flagrant, but I don't think it was intentional.
 

preslove

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I SO want duke to lose in the first round. A few years of suckage will do that program a load of good.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
it certainly looked malicious and flagrant, but I don't think it was intentional.
oh come on. it was so obviously intentional. if not, noses would be getting busted up and bloody all the time from innocent elbow pummellings.

 

Mo0o

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All the announcers feel it wasn't intentional. If you watch his eyes, they were never on Hansborough. Henderson went for the ball, when he saw that it had been blocked, he put his hands down as fast as he could to avoid getting called for a foul, what happened afterwards was unintentional.

When was the last time a duke player broke someone's nose? Henderson has never had behavioral problems, we're not talking about rasheed wallace or spreewell here. there was no point in hard fouling tyler, the game was over, fouling would have done nothing to change the outcome. If anything he'd only be risking a suspension for very little gain.
 

RedArmy

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I was watching the game and both me and my dad didn't think it was intentional.

The announcers for the game didn't think it was intentional either. Their reasoning was that Henderson's head was turned when he hit Hansbrough's nose and also, Henderson's body was twisting in mid air reacting the path of the ball. Combine both those things and I can see how it happened.

All I know as of now is that Henderson was suspended for one game.
 

chuckywang

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I don't think it was intentional. Henderson was going for the ball, but the ball got knocked away from where Henderson thought it was going to be. The end result was a hard play with Henderson's arm catching Hansbrough's nose.
 
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
it certainly looked malicious and flagrant, but I don't think it was intentional.
oh come on. it was so obviously intentional. if not, noses would be getting busted up and bloody all the time from innocent elbow pummellings.

because, obviously, only the malicious fouls hurt
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
it certainly looked malicious and flagrant, but I don't think it was intentional.
oh come on. it was so obviously intentional. if not, noses would be getting busted up and bloody all the time from innocent elbow pummellings.

because, obviously, only the malicious fouls hurt
more often than not.

 

spidey07

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The announcers got it wrong. They were just trying to keep the fires down and that's all IMHO. Every guest I had thought it was flagrant and intentional, and we're not from NC. It looked like a sucker punch in mid-air with the ball well away from arms of both of them. Tyson could barely throw such a well placed right hook.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: spidey07
The announcers got it wrong. They were just trying to keep the fires down and that's all IMHO. Every guest I had thought it was flagrant and intentional, and we're not from NC. It looked like a sucker punch in mid-air with the ball well away from arms of both of them. Tyson could barely throw such a well placed right hook.

it wasn't even his fist, it was jsut henderson's arm that hit hansborough.

there was NO incentive and NO motive for hitting hansborough. he's played well against us before and there was no attacks. the game was over, neutralizing him would have done nothing. the risk of being suspended did not merit such a confrontation. i think you're making quite a big accusation of henderson's character to say he would blatantly sucker punch hansborough in the nose.
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: NFS4
What, I missed Psycho-T getting knocked the fvck out? DAMNIT! :D

From last year :D

ah you silly State fans...gotta bring clips from another team to make your pathetic team feel better eh? ;)

He didn't get knocked out, but he got bloodied. if the refs weren't holding him back it would have gotten ugly.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: spidey07
The announcers got it wrong. They were just trying to keep the fires down and that's all IMHO. Every guest I had thought it was flagrant and intentional, and we're not from NC. It looked like a sucker punch in mid-air with the ball well away from arms of both of them. Tyson could barely throw such a well placed right hook.

it wasn't even his fist, it was jsut henderson's arm that hit hansborough.

there was NO incentive and NO motive for hitting hansborough. he's played well against us before and there was no attacks. the game was over, neutralizing him would have done nothing. the risk of being suspended did not merit such a confrontation. i think you're making quite a big accusation of henderson's character to say he would blatantly sucker punch hansborough in the nose.

That's correct. Which is why the sucker punch is that much worse and should define this trash's character. It was blatant, it was malicious, you can see it in the way he purposefully exteneded his elbow to hit him in the face.

Throwing elbows like that when you have the ball? Fine.
Purposefully throwing them while both are in the air (and you can see how he purposefully sucker punched him) is NOT acceptible.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: spidey07
The announcers got it wrong. They were just trying to keep the fires down and that's all IMHO. Every guest I had thought it was flagrant and intentional, and we're not from NC. It looked like a sucker punch in mid-air with the ball well away from arms of both of them. Tyson could barely throw such a well placed right hook.

it wasn't even his fist, it was jsut henderson's arm that hit hansborough.

there was NO incentive and NO motive for hitting hansborough. he's played well against us before and there was no attacks. the game was over, neutralizing him would have done nothing. the risk of being suspended did not merit such a confrontation. i think you're making quite a big accusation of henderson's character to say he would blatantly sucker punch hansborough in the nose.

That's correct. Which is why the sucker punch is that much worse and should define this trash's character. It was blatant, it was malicious, you can see it in the way he purposefully exteneded his elbow to hit him in the face.

Throwing elbows like that when you have the ball? Fine.
Purposefully throwing them while both are in the air (and you can see how he purposefully sucker punched him) is NOT acceptible.

seems like most people are saying it wasn't blatant nor malicious. if you watch his eyes, they were never on hansborough, they were on the ball and when the ball fell he tried to put his arms down as fast as possible.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
seems like most people are saying it wasn't blatant nor malicious. if you watch his eyes, they were never on hansborough, they were on the ball and when the ball fell he tried to put his arms down as fast as possible.

In all honesty it could go eitherway, but from my viewing it looked pretty darn intentional - the entire room went up with a "WTF SUCKER PUNCH!" reaction. Where you're eyes are doesn't matter - "I sense your head within striking distance of a well struck elbow with peripheral vision". I play a lot of sports, you KNOW where people and their head is...you try not to have a VERY forceful move in that area.
 

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I'd say it was malicious, but he may hansborugh might have brought it upon himself. UNC should have pocketed the ball after he got that rebound instead of going for the shot. They also shouldn't have shot the three attempt after the incident. UNC broke some unwritten rules today in the last minute, and Roy should have called his boys off. Having said that, it's still uncalled for. As a Tech fan though, it was funny to watch the ref's call the game today, they didn't know who to work for.

I wanted them to just call the game after that play, it was over and all you were going to do was get people hurt. Fortunately, nothing else happened.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: GTJoe
I'd say it was malicious, but he may hansborugh might have brought it upon himself. UNC should have pocketed the ball after he got that rebound instead of going for the shot. They also shouldn't have shot the three attempt after the incident. UNC broke some unwritten rules today in the last minute, and Roy should have called his boys off. Having said that, it's still uncalled for. As a Tech fan though, it was funny to watch the ref's call the game today, they didn't know who to work for.

I wanted them to just call the game after that play, it was over and all you were going to do was get people hurt. Fortunately, nothing else happened.

Yeah, it did show some class on both sides of the ball to just let it end. If I was a UNC player, I don't know if I could have.
 

IHAVEAQUESTION

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Those who say it's not intentional probably have never play b'ball before.


Of course it was intentional, why is this even debatable?