Duke is everything that is right about college basketball

chuckywang

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Year in and year out, Duke is the cream of the crop when it comes to competing and personnel.

They are not saddled with NCAA violations unlike other programs.

  • Just today a probe is being opened to investigate the resignation of coach Quin Snyder (I know he's a Dukie, but what happened had nothing to do wtih Duke). Snyder resigned due to a bunch of NCAA infractions including recruiting violations and providing meals and gifts to his players. Former player Ricky Clemons also accused an assistant coach of giving him $250.

  • And who can forget the Georgia program under Jim Harrick and Jim Harrick Jr. In addition to accusations of Jim Harrick Jr. paying a player's bills and doing his homework, he is also accused of teaching a fake class. Let's see how you do on the test.

  • St. Bonaventure is currently under probation for allowing a juco transfer to play for them with only a welding certificate as proof of academic eligibility. This caused the forfeit of their last two games of the season, and the resignation of the coach, the AD, and the university president. Players such as Mike Gansey were allowed to transfer without having to sit out for a year.

  • Ohio State might lose their best recruiting class ever due to violations by former coach Jim O'Brien. O'Brien is accused of loaning $6,000 to a recruit.

  • Baylor was not allowed to play an out of conference schedule this year due to a number of NCAA violations, as well as an ugly murder. Players such as John Lucas III and Lawrence Roberts were allowed to transfer without having to sit out a year. You can read all about this here.


Their players and coaches are not out of control.
  • This is unlike what happens at UConn, where current players Marcus Williams and AJ Price stole four laptops from a school dormitory. If UConn had any self-respect, they would not be playing this season, but I guess winning is more important for them.

  • Just a year ago, a bunch of players were kicked of the St. John's team for an after-curfew visit to a strip club in Pittsburgh. They had to play the rest of the season with only seven players (four scholarship players). Their coach, Mike Jarvis, was later fired for other NCAA violations.

  • And how can we forget John Chaney sending in a "goon" to commit hard fouls against St. Joseph's, ultimately breaking the arm of a St. Joseph player, ending his regular season.

  • And how about former Iowa State coach Larry Eustachy going to a frat party with the OPPONENT'S players AFTER they lost at Missouri. He later resigned after admitting to an alcohol problem.

  • Lately, Eddie Sutton, who earlier ran the Kentucky program into the ground, was arrested for a DUI, which pretty much will end his coaching career. For some reason, he still gets credit for OSU's wins this year, even though he's on a medical leave of absense and his son, Sean Sutton, is the interim coach.


You never hear of any recruiting violations, any off the court problems, or any academic impropriety when it comes to Duke basketball. (I know that JJ Redick was caught smoking pot with some soccer players a few years ago, but Duke did well to keep that contained.) The reasons are simple: they recruit and hire good people. Everybody else talks about how there is a conspiracy regarding the number of calls that Duke gets in their favor, but the real conspiracy is how Duke gets the best recruits and the level of talent on their teams, year after year.
 

Sheepathon

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This is all irrelevant unless you can somehow prove that the Duke basketball players are fed some first-class Reuben sandwiches at practices and home games. If they are not, they are just another bunch of hamsters.
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: Sheepathon
This is all irrelevant unless you can somehow prove that the Duke basketball players are fed some first-class Reuben sandwiches at practices and home games. If they are not, they are just another bunch of hamsters.

Actually the post is mostly for me to detail some of the violations and problems programs have been having. I included the part about Duke to make it seem personal to me.
 

BDawg

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Duke just hasn't been caught. They do plenty wrong.

K's behaviour during games should hardly be considered "everything that is right."
 

BlueFlamme

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Year in and year out, Duke is the cream of the crop when it comes to getting all the close calls to go their way from the refs

fixed.
 

imported_griffis

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Hey bro, get ready to get slammed, Duke and Coach K can take a flying leap off a cliff or all I care. That team is nowhere near what is right just like every other team out there
 

Juno

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can't wait to see villanova playing against duke in the march madness (if they keep on winning.)
 

J Heartless Slick

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OP

I can see UConn kicking the players caught stealing out of school. But it is unreasonable to punish the whole team, coaches, and the school for the actions of two players.
 

bigrash

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While i don't agree on everything the OP said, I do think Coach K is a great coach
 

GeneValgene

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Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Yeah, everyone should act the way K does on the court.... :roll:
and this.

yea, duke is a great team, and a great school...but the way coach k works the refs is shady, and not right at all
 

BrokenVisage

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Originally posted by: Juno
can't wait to see villanova playing against duke in the march madness (if they keep on winning.)

I would LOVE to see Nova play Duke this year. I've seen Nova play at least 10 games this season and they can really frustrate any team on both sides of the court. Awesome defense, awesome speed, awesome shooting, and senior leadership... UGH I wish Sumpter was healthy, wow would they be hard to beat if so.
 

torpid

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I wouldn't say "everything". I think that college basketball is a lot like pro baseball... there is just too much of a disparity between good teams and mediocre teams. Duke has the yankees syndrome... always seems to have a disparate amount of good players, and more players flock to it. The good news about duke is that they are also well coached, which is not always true of the yankees. So in the sense of parity problems, I would say duke represents what is severely broken about college basketball.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Yeah, everyone should act the way K does on the court.... :roll:
and this.
OP owned.

St. Bonaventure is currently under probation for allowing a juco transfer to play for them with only a welding certificate as proof of academic eligibility. This caused the forfeit of their last two games of the season, and the resignation of the coach, the AD, and the university president. Players such as Mike Gansey were allowed to transfer without having to sit out for a year.

Why the hell would Gansey have to sit out for a year after leaving a corrupt program that he had nothing to do with? Admissions and Records of St. Bonnie fcked up, not Gansey, hence why he was fine to transfer to WVU.

Ohio State might lose their best recruiting class ever due to violations by former coach Jim O'Brien. O'Brien is accused of loaning $6,000 to a recruit.

And OSU was wrong in firing O'Brien, and will have to pay O'Brien millions because of it.
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Ohio Court of Claims Judge Joseph T. Clark ruled O'Brien broke his contract by giving the loan and failing to inform university officials, but the error was not serious enough to warrant firing. The university violated the contract by firing him without compensation, the ruling said.

Just a year ago, a bunch of players were kicked of the St. John's team for an after-curfew visit to a strip club in Pittsburgh.

And this is worse than JJ Redick smoking weed how? Oh, I know: one is a misdemeanor, the other is perfectly legal.

Your Duke fanboism has taken you to new heights. Coach K just called, he wants his jockstrap back. Are many programs corrupt? Of course, millions of $ are involved in NCAA hoops, but to paint Duke as a shining pinnacle is absurd. It's also absurd to bring up examples that are flawed.
 

Heckler 5th

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support a real team. if you have to give coach k credit for something, than give him props for image idyllic image he's somehow crafted with the general public.

but a real fan and anyone with a brain knows he's gotten his hands just as dirty as the next guy. yes, i will let american express pay me to do commercials that will give me an even more disparate recruiting advantage.

screw duke and their legions of fanboys.
 

CPA

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Dook Sucks.

Name me a Coach K coaching disciple or player who has succeeded at the next level. I give you Brand, but that's it.
 

pmoa

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Originally posted by: BlueFlamme
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Year in and year out, Duke is the cream of the crop when it comes to getting all the close calls to go their way from the refs

fixed.

:thumbsup: and Coach K being a cry baby for every non call of a charge...