Duggar baby #20 is on the way -- UPDATE, Miscarried

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Vic Vega

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That doesn't make it right to exploit them for money, regardless of when they had them or why.

Prove exploitation. Oh, you can't. I see.

You don't like them, that's your opinion and the way you have conveyed it, I doubt anyone here thinks it's worth much. I don't.
 

Matthiasa

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I don't give a shit if you're Bill Gates and could afford to father 1000 children. It's about social responsibility and not bringing an obscene amount of children into this world. We're already talking about population issues and how limited supplies (food, water, energy) are impacting everyone else, and yet we're supposed to somehow accept that this stupid family has 20 fucking kids?

It's pretty fucking selfish as a parent when also start delegating parenting duties to the older siblings because the dad won't get his balls snipped or the mom won't keep her snatch shut.
That's actually pretty common even in small families when the age gap between kids is more then a few years.
It also gives their kids practical parenting skills which most seem to lack.
 

Zivic

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They need to cut the nuts off of every male in that family.

who are "they" and why do you get to decide that it needs to be done?

the ignorance in this thread is just disgusting.

not my personal choice to have that many kids with my wife, but these people take care of their own and should have the right to do so...

the problem with the world IMHO is that the wrong people are having kids. While I personally think these people are a bit different, they seem like good people. There are plenty worse people having kids in this world.
 

JulesMaximus

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who are "they" and why do you get to decide that it needs to be done?

the ignorance in this thread is just disgusting.

not my personal choice to have that many kids with my wife, but these people take care of their own and should have the right to do so...

the problem with the world IMHO is that the wrong people are having kids. While I personally think these people are a bit different, they seem like good people. There are plenty worse people having kids in this world.

No they shouldn't. The world is too crowded as it is. We need to start limiting the population.
 

foghorn67

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Wow at this thread. Some of you guys are vile. You feel threatened that some family can support 20 kids.
Maybe it's the fear of religion.
 

Patranus

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Who gives a shit.
They don't take government money so why should anyone care how many children they have?
 

classy

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They haven't ask for one hand out and the they appear to be bringing up their kids pretty good.
 

pcgeek11

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Your comment was about why they had them:

As fucked up as the belief is, I think they honestly believe they shouldn't use birth control as it's against God's will. There's also other families they know that show that it isn't even a belief that is isolated to them. If their goal was fame/money then they've done a pretty shitty job at it.

Whether you believe a reality show is exploitation of children should have nothing to do with how many children they have.

My comment was they are having children for MONEY. IMO. I didn't say that was their original intent.

No they are doing a really good job of it. And my opinion stands.

You got one right. My opinion doesn't have anything to do with how many children they have. I never claimed that it did. I just think exploiting children for money and fame is wrong, just like those retarded parents and the baby beauty contest...You're probably fine with that too.
 

pcgeek11

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Prove exploitation. Oh, you can't. I see.

You don't like them, that's your opinion and the way you have conveyed it, I doubt anyone here thinks it's worth much. I don't.**

Parading the children ( they have no choice ) on TV for money is exploitation.

ex·ploi·ta·tion
   [ek-sploi-tey-shuhn] Show IPA
noun
1. use or utilization, especially for profit: the exploitation of newly discovered oil fields.
2. selfish utilization: He got ahead through the exploitation of his friends.
3. the combined, often varied, use of public-relations and advertising techniques to promote a person, movie, product, etc.

** Oh and may I also say I don't give a crap what you think
 

dwell

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Who gives a shit.
They don't take government money so why should anyone care how many children they have?

Because of the dumb shits with no jobs who watch the show and get the same idea. Having a boatload of kids should not be an exhibition.
 

trmiv

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They haven't exactly done it all on their own like people like to think. The giant house they live in was completed by Discovery who found people to donate their time. The Duggars started the house but couldn't finish it, so Discovery footed the bill and found people to work on the house for free. The house was furnished, decorated and stocked by Discovery as well. They may have been debt free, and doing OK before Discovery came along, but that was 7 years and 6 kids ago (they did their first Discovery special in 2004). Discovery probably pays them at least $50,000 an episode I'd guess, if not more.
 

HamburgerBoy

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No they shouldn't. The world is too crowded as it is. We need to start limiting the population.

Their family is, at least the present time, self-sufficient. They aren't crowding you or infringing on your property so there is no rational reason for you to care.
 

Jeff7

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I don't get the Duggar hate. Is it because they're Christian? They have a large family of what appear to be healthy, happy, well rounded kids. Why does it matter how many they have?
Their philosophy of "we don't believe in personal choice when it relates to intercourse, we think God handles everything there" seems to stem from the whole "be fruitful and multiply" bit.
Be fruitful and multiply. So what is it going to be then, keep reproducing as often as possible, until the population density of the entire planet is enough to put India to shame? Keep going until there's only enough food to keep us all on the threshold of starvation? Keep going until it's standing room only?

We're a great example of what happens when a species somehow finds itself in a position of being devoid of enough natural predators to limit the population - it's the same thing that often happens when we introduce a species into a non-native environment: It has no natural predators, so it keeps breeding out of control. I got some free gypsy moths and zebra mussels here, if anyone wants them. ;)
So then we go a step further, and rationalize our out-of-control breeding, and even glorify it.
 
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Fenixgoon

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don't they take care of all their kids and have the kids help support the family too? as long as they aren't a drain on society (i.e. having more kids just for welfare money) is there really anything wrong with that?
 

HamburgerBoy

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don't they take care of all their kids and have the kids help support the family too? as long as they aren't a drain on society (i.e. having more kids just for welfare money) is there really anything wrong with that?

Yes. It means that they're better than other ATOTers who can't keep a job with just one child, and that makes said ATOTers envious.
 

BoomerD

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Her vagina qualifies as a third-world country...and should be declared a hazardous waste site.

It's great that they don't get welfare or food stamps, but large families ARE a bigger drain on resources than small families, and it's highly unlikely that they pay enough in property taxes to offset the cost of educating all those children. (if the children all attend private schools then the last doesn't apply)

If all twenty kids go on to have 20 children...and those each have 20...
 

Wreckem

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Her vagina qualifies as a third-world country...and should be declared a hazardous waste site.

It's great that they don't get welfare or food stamps, but large families ARE a bigger drain on resources than small families, and it's highly unlikely that they pay enough in property taxes to offset the cost of educating all those children. (if the children all attend private schools then the last doesn't apply)

If all twenty kids go on to have 20 children...and those each have 20...

The kids are home schooled IIRC.
 

JD50

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My comment was they are having children for MONEY. IMO. I didn't say that was their original intent.

No they are doing a really good job of it. And my opinion stands.

You got one right. My opinion doesn't have anything to do with how many children they have. I never claimed that it did. I just think exploiting children for money and fame is wrong, just like those retarded parents and the baby beauty contest...You're probably fine with that too.

:rolleyes: