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Duck and Viper

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ponyo

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My younger cousin finally got his car finished so we decided to cruise up to the North GA mountains. His bumble bee has headers with Roe supercharger and is putting down around 550 rwhp with similar torque. His brother-in-law rode his Duc 1098S. That bike is heavily modded and has carbon fiber pieces galore including the wheels. I followed in my stock C6 and tried my best to keep up. I didn't have too much problem keeping up with the Viper but the Duck was just insanely fast like lightning. He let us catch up to him during the straightaways but during the turns, we had no chance and he disappeared. It was great fun and the weather was perfect fall weather.

Viper

Duck

 
Originally posted by: vshah
cars are usually faster than a bike through turns....or so i always thought...
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Bikes carve up twisties and this bike sticks to the road like it's on rails. Considering this bike can do 0-60mph in less than 2.5 seconds, it's impossible to keep up in the curves and straightway unless the rider lets you on purpose. It's really a sick bike and with the mods even more so.
 
Sweet cars and bike. I can imagine the looks on people's faces when a Ducati flies by, and then a Viper and a C6 behind it. 😀
 
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: vshah
cars are usually faster than a bike through turns....or so i always thought...
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Bikes carve up twisties and this bike sticks to the road like it's on rails. Considering this bike can do 0-60mph in less than 2.5 seconds, it's impossible to keep up in the curves and straightway unless the rider lets you on purpose. It's really a sick bike and with the mods even more so.
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Hm, this contradicts the Top Gear test.
 
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: vshah
cars are usually faster than a bike through turns....or so i always thought...
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Bikes carve up twisties and this bike sticks to the road like it's on rails. Considering this bike can do 0-60mph in less than 2.5 seconds, it's impossible to keep up in the curves and straightway unless the rider lets you on purpose. It's really a sick bike and with the mods even more so.
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Most bikes usually are only faster in the straights because of the power to weight ratio, but they don't intrinsically have better grip. They usually aren't any better than a sports car, and it is vastly easier to explore the limits in a car because they are so much more forgiving. You'd be surprised how wimpy of a car it takes to run up the exhaust pipes of a biker in the twisties. In the straights, it's obviously no contest, but I've had no problem pressuring sport bikes that were scraping their pedals in front of me, and I drive a family sedan on all-seasons. Sounds like this bike was special, but I can't help but wonder if you were still confusing his rocket-ship corner exits with the corners themselves.

I'm remembering a Csaba Csere column in Car and Driver from long ago about just this subject, when he tailed a sport bike through the Santa Monica mountains in a regular BMW 5-series and had no trouble keeping up.
 
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: vshah
cars are usually faster than a bike through turns....or so i always thought...
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Bikes carve up twisties and this bike sticks to the road like it's on rails. Considering this bike can do 0-60mph in less than 2.5 seconds, it's impossible to keep up in the curves and straightway unless the rider lets you on purpose. It's really a sick bike and with the mods even more so.
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Most bikes usually are only faster in the straights because of the power to weight ratio, but they don't intrinsically have better grip. They usually aren't any better than a sports car, and it is vastly easier to explore the limits in a car because they are so much more forgiving. You'd be surprised how wimpy of a car it takes to run up the exhaust pipes of a biker in the twisties. In the straights, it's obviously no contest, but I've had no problem pressuring sport bikes that were scraping their pedals in front of me, and I drive a family sedan on all-seasons. Sounds like this bike was special, but I can't help but wonder if you were still confusing his rocket-ship corner exits with the corners themselves.

I'm remembering a Csaba Csere column in Car and Driver from long ago about just this subject, when he tailed a sport bike through the Santa Monica mountains in a regular BMW 5-series and had no trouble keeping up.
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Lot of it probably was he was better rider than we were as drivers. He knew the roads better and he rocketed out of the exits. We kept up for the most part but certain sections he just pulled away.
 
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: vshah
cars are usually faster than a bike through turns....or so i always thought...
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Bikes carve up twisties and this bike sticks to the road like it's on rails. Considering this bike can do 0-60mph in less than 2.5 seconds, it's impossible to keep up in the curves and straightway unless the rider lets you on purpose. It's really a sick bike and with the mods even more so.
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Hm, this contradicts the Top Gear test.
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kinda of a tossup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UDXcotDqDs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...MFf4Ko&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mUBCNg3xO8
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
a little OT, but does a hood design like that make it really annoying to work on the engine?
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On both my Sky and Vette you generally take the hood off for any major work and minor stuff it never really seemed to get in the way, even fixing my belt tensioner on the vette wasn't a bad job with it still on.
 
I get chills thinking about a person taking twisties hard on public roads on a bike. Hit some gravel or some fall leaves you're done for.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I get chills thinking about a person taking twisties hard on public roads on a bike. Hit some gravel or some fall leaves you're done for.
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The thrill is generally worth the risk. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I get chills thinking about a person taking twisties hard on public roads on a bike. Hit some gravel or some fall leaves you're done for.
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Gravel, leaves, stopped car, animal, big rut, any of those will put you down. That's why you don't race on the street.
 
Originally posted by: SearchMaster
Where'd you ride? I live in the N. GA mountains.
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near Vogel state park area past Dahlonega. Traffic was relatively light but cops were out in force which was kind of unusual. Saw Porsche GT3, Turbo, and 911 pulled over together by cops down near the base of the mountain. Saw the usual Miatas and S2000 along with couple Lotus, NSX, Viper, Cayman, and Boxsters. But bikers probably outnumbered cars 3-1.
 
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: SearchMaster
Where'd you ride? I live in the N. GA mountains.
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near Vogel state park area past Dahlonega. Traffic was relatively light but cops were out in force which was kind of unusual. Saw Porsche GT3, Turbo, and 911 pulled over together by cops down near the base of the mountain. Saw the usual Miatas and S2000 along with couple Lotus, NSX, Viper, Cayman, and Boxsters. But bikers probably outnumbered cars 3-1.
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Palomar Mountain is like that here. I ride up it every once in a while because it is so twisty and so much fun but the CHP loves to setup stings and bust guys dragging knees through there. There are typically a few people killed there every year on bikes and in cars...moreso on bikes though.

When the cops aren't around it is typical to see guys doing runs up and down the mountain for hours. It's about 12 miles from the base to the summit and it is very very twisty.

Map of Palomar
 
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