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jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Any pool going as to when a terrorist will bring it down?
Why, is the US Army building a barracks in the lobby?

Wow, equating our soldiers to terrorists. Don't bother trying to explain your way out of it.
Wait, what? Try reading slower next time kiddo.
 

Journer

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who the hell would want to work in that thing ? not only would you be way the fuck up in the air, but it would take forever just commuting up and down each day
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Any pool going as to when a terrorist will bring it down?
Why, is the US Army building a barracks in the lobby?

Wow, equating our soldiers to terrorists. Don't bother trying to explain your way out of it.

it's jpeyton...

Supposedly the terrorists hate the West, Dubai is commercializing like the West since they will run out of oil soon.

Also, it's easier to blow up something in your backyard than it is to blow up something across the ocean.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Any pool going as to when a terrorist will bring it down?
Why, is the US Army building a barracks in the lobby?

Wow, equating our soldiers to terrorists. Don't bother trying to explain your way out of it.

not sure who is the bigger idiot. you for thinking thats what he said or Jpeyton for not being clear. but my guess is on you.
 

BigDH01

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Any pool going as to when a terrorist will bring it down?
Why, is the US Army building a barracks in the lobby?

Wow, equating our soldiers to terrorists. Don't bother trying to explain your way out of it.

I think he was trying to insinuate that the tower wouldn't be a target unless it held something of interest to terrorists (like American troops).
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Journer
who the hell would want to work in that thing ? not only would you be way the fuck up in the air, but it would take forever just commuting up and down each day
They build temporary quarters for the workers inside the building on various levels so they don't commute.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Any pool going as to when a terrorist will bring it down?
Why, is the US Army building a barracks in the lobby?

Wow, equating our soldiers to terrorists. Don't bother trying to explain your way out of it.

it's jpeyton...

Supposedly the terrorists hate the West, Dubai is commercializing like the West since they will run out of oil soon.

Also, it's easier to blow up something in your backyard than it is to blow up something across the ocean.
Oil only accounts for 6% of Dubai's revenues right now; 94% is non-oil based. They'll be in great shape when their oil runs out, especially since today's soaring oil prices have allowed them to buy record amounts of US real estate.

The terrorists have plenty of soft targets in Afghanistan and Iraq, "in their own backyard".

What I find both hilarious and troubling is that any thread about the Burj Dubai (and there have been many in the past) always end up being a debate about terrorists bringing it down. 9/11 has made a lot of you pathetic and paranoid, despite 7 glorious years of our global war on terror that we're supposedly winning. Why so worried?
 

zoiks

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Any pool going as to when a terrorist will bring it down?
Why, is the US Army building a barracks in the lobby?

Wow, equating our soldiers to terrorists. Don't bother trying to explain your way out of it.

it's jpeyton...

Supposedly the terrorists hate the West, Dubai is commercializing like the West since they will run out of oil soon.

Also, it's easier to blow up something in your backyard than it is to blow up something across the ocean.

Dude, at least do your research before you spew your blatant hatred of anything that is remotely arab.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: preslove
Man, that place is going to be a wasteland in 60 years, after the oil $ stops rushing in.
It already stopped rushing in. From Wiki:

Although Dubai's economy was built on the back of the oil industry,[65] revenues from oil and natural gas currently account for less than 6% of the emirate's revenues.[8] It is estimated that Dubai produces 240,000 barrels of oil a day and substantial quantities of gas from offshore fields. The emirate's share in UAE's gas revenues is about 2%. Dubai's oil reserves have diminished significantly and are expected to be exhausted in 20 years. A majority of the emirate's revenues are from trade, real estate and financial services.
Dubai is transforming itself into the Monaco of the middle east. A small hideaway for the wealthy. Even Trump is building a skyscraper there.

The real estate market is soft in the US; it's great for buyers (especially foreign ones), but hard for builders and sellers.

By oil $ I mean the money spent there by oil tycoons from other Arab countries. It is a hideaway for wealthy Arabs. Once the Arabian peninsula and Iran start running out of oil, the Arabs and Iranians will stop spending lavish amounts of money there. Westerners won't make up the balance, and will stop going. At that point Dubai is fucked.


 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Any pool going as to when a terrorist will bring it down?
Why, is the US Army building a barracks in the lobby?

Wow, equating our soldiers to terrorists. Don't bother trying to explain your way out of it.

it's jpeyton...

Supposedly the terrorists hate the West, Dubai is commercializing like the West since they will run out of oil soon.

Also, it's easier to blow up something in your backyard than it is to blow up something across the ocean.
Oil only accounts for 6% of Dubai's revenues right now; 94% is non-oil based. They'll be in great shape when their oil runs out, especially since today's soaring oil prices have allowed them to buy record amounts of US real estate.

The terrorists have plenty of soft targets in Afghanistan and Iraq, "in their own backyard".

What I find both hilarious and troubling is that any thread about the Burj Dubai (and there have been many in the past) always end up being a debate about terrorists bringing it down. 9/11 has made a lot of you pathetic and paranoid, despite 7 glorious years of our global war on terror that we're supposedly winning. Why so worried?

You calling people paranoid is the funniest thing i have read all day.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: preslove
By oil $ I mean the money spent there by oil tycoons from other Arab countries. It is a hideaway for wealthy Arabs. Once the Arabian peninsula and Iran start running out of oil, the Arabs and Iranians will stop spending lavish amounts of money there. Westerners won't make up the balance, and will stop going. At that point Dubai is fucked.
Ummm no. And you're welcome to provide a credible source to back that absurd theory.
 

Jmman

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7 star hotel? Is that kind of like Spinal Tap and the amp that does to 11? You guys realize that the hotel itself is the one giving themselves this "7 star" rating, right? I am going to open up a hotel and give it a 69 star rating........:laugh::roll:
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: KLin
I know I've asked this before, but which terrorist group is going to be the first to take it out with a 747?
You could fly an A380 into it and it still wouldn't go down. Properly engineered and constructed skyscrapers don't go down if a single plane hits it. I guess that tells you something about the quality of the twin towers.

Besides, all you need to do to prevent another 9/11 is put about $50 worth of steel reinforcements on the cockpit door.

Every building is designed differently. The WTC were designed to maximize floorspace in some of the most dense and expensive RE in the world. To do that they eliminated a lot of of the traditional structures for buildings.

It was designed to take on a plane, just one of the day and age's, and it wasn't imagined that the ablative coating would blow off.

It might have been a poor design in hindsight.

Would this building fall to a plane? Who knows, anything is possible.
I'm sure anything is possible, but is it really likely? The UAE, Kuwait, and other gulf states have zero issues with terrorism. It's not like terrorists just pull out a map and throw darts at it to pick their targets. Common sense upgrades to cockpit safety have made hijackings extremely unlikely.

I'm not super familiar with flying, but are the pilots locked inside the cockpit prior to the vehicle being fueled? Sure, it's virtually impossible to hijack a jet... once it's taken off and left the airport. But, is it impossible to hijack a jet that's on the ground? How many airports in the world are closer to targets than the time it would take to scramble a response? How many people would it take to "hijack" an unoccupied jet on the ground without anyone realizing what was going on until the plane started taxiing toward the runway? (maybe I've been watching too many movies?)

If a terrorist is really dedicated and has a clean record and money, what's to prevent them from becoming an airline pilot? No need to hijack!

Or, given enough money, they can just buy an old plane like the cocaine smugglers do.
 

imported_Champ

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Originally posted by: Jmman
7 star hotel? Is that kind of like Spinal Tap and the amp that does to 11? You guys realize that the hotel itself is the one giving themselves this "7 star" rating, right? I am going to open up a hotel and give it a 69 star rating........:laugh::roll:

well your hotel is still gonna be behind my 123 star hotel:p
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: Champ
Originally posted by: Jmman
7 star hotel? Is that kind of like Spinal Tap and the amp that does to 11? You guys realize that the hotel itself is the one giving themselves this "7 star" rating, right? I am going to open up a hotel and give it a 69 star rating........:laugh::roll:

well your hotel is still gonna be behind my 123 star hotel:p

Come stay at the sideways 8, we'll keep the light on for you!


pwned!
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: preslove
By oil $ I mean the money spent there by oil tycoons from other Arab countries. It is a hideaway for wealthy Arabs. Once the Arabian peninsula and Iran start running out of oil, the Arabs and Iranians will stop spending lavish amounts of money there. Westerners won't make up the balance, and will stop going. At that point Dubai is fucked.
Ummm no. And you're welcome to provide a credible source to back that absurd theory.

You're a pompous idiot.

Dubai is the financial services, tourism, and trading hub of the middle east. While the Middle East has been flush with oil money, Dubai has been able to take their cut and go on this huge investment boom, building huge, monumentally wasteful (in electricity and water) projects with shitty material. Once all the oil in the region starts drying up so will all the tourism, financial services, and trading $ that is making Dubai rich. All that wasteful construction will be worthless once they can't afford to air condition their huge buildings. What use will an indoor snow ski park in the desert be then?

It's common fucking sense.


 

SneakyStuff

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So if I lived on the top floor and decided to go downstairs to get the paper I could probably read each section while taking the elevator up to the top. That's crazy high.
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Probably so. Engineers only tell people how it should be done. The problem is getting the jobsite to listen, and in this case, they didn't .

So true.

<-- licensed structural engineer
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: preslove
By oil $ I mean the money spent there by oil tycoons from other Arab countries. It is a hideaway for wealthy Arabs. Once the Arabian peninsula and Iran start running out of oil, the Arabs and Iranians will stop spending lavish amounts of money there. Westerners won't make up the balance, and will stop going. At that point Dubai is fucked.
Ummm no. And you're welcome to provide a credible source to back that absurd theory.

You're a pompous idiot.

Dubai is the financial services, tourism, and trading hub of the middle east. While the Middle East has been flush with oil money, Dubai has been able to take their cut and go on this huge investment boom, building huge, monumentally wasteful (in electricity and water) projects with shitty material. Once all the oil in the region starts drying up so will all the tourism, services, and trading $ that is making Dubai rich. All that wasteful construction will be worthless once they can't afford to air condition their huge buildings.

It's common fucking sense.
Your analysis has the depth of a 4th grade research paper.

OMG, what is the US going to do when the oil dries up? How will we drive, move freight, produce plastics, fertilize crops, harvest crops, transport food, support the automotive industry, support the airline industry, pave our roads, etc.?

It is impossible to adapt. Might as well roll over and die.
 

Yongsta

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: preslove
Man, that place is going to be a wasteland in 60 years, after the oil $ stops rushing in.
It already stopped rushing in. From Wiki:

Although Dubai's economy was built on the back of the oil industry,[65] revenues from oil and natural gas currently account for less than 6% of the emirate's revenues.[8] It is estimated that Dubai produces 240,000 barrels of oil a day and substantial quantities of gas from offshore fields. The emirate's share in UAE's gas revenues is about 2%. Dubai's oil reserves have diminished significantly and are expected to be exhausted in 20 years. A majority of the emirate's revenues are from trade, real estate and financial services.
Dubai is transforming itself into the Monaco of the middle east. A small hideaway for the wealthy. Even Trump is building a skyscraper there.

The real estate market is soft in the US; it's great for buyers (especially foreign ones), but hard for builders and sellers.

By oil $ I mean the money spent there by oil tycoons from other Arab countries. It is a hideaway for wealthy Arabs. Once the Arabian peninsula and Iran start running out of oil, the Arabs and Iranians will stop spending lavish amounts of money there. Westerners won't make up the balance, and will stop going. At that point Dubai is fucked.

So they're putting all their eggs in one basket and won't change? I think they know that the oil will eventually dry up and will try to adapt and build in other sectors / markets.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Any pool going as to when a terrorist will bring it down?
Why, is the US Army building a barracks in the lobby?

Wow, equating our soldiers to terrorists. Don't bother trying to explain your way out of it.

YOU FAIL! UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY FAIL FAIL FAIL!