I just got a new job and gonna get paid hella good. Im going to tech for network specialist and I want a computer, I dont want just any computer, i want a dual xeon(3.8)(dual cores) dual Good graphics cards, and upwards of 6gb of ram. This will be used at a server for the first year of college, prolly between me and my buddies or storage and CS:S, I will eventually want to use this for myself. My only question is, lets so I go to open a program....will the 2x3.8 processors work together to open it?? or will it use one to an extent and then use the other one?
Dual Xeon SLI
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You are going to be wasting a lot of money. Trust me. But to answer your question, no. Each process has it's own affinity (IE open on a specific processor).
To clarify, you are working on two extremes. If you want a server, build a server. If you want a gaming machine, build a gaming machine. It is incredibly hard to build a dual-purpose machine of that caliber. Something gets wasted, and it's very expensive to be wasteful at that level.
The above is correct. I guess you can think of it like this: With RAID (Stripping Levels) the data and bits are distributed accross your array, all at the same time to both drives. While your processors will not do this. For a server, what makes you think you will need 6GB of RAM? Duel Graphics cards? You said this was a server, not some suped up gaming rig.
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I must say, my Dual Xeon kinda sux for gaming compared to my A64 based system. Or rather, I saw no gain/difference. Its all in the video card for the most part. Oh and hosting single games doesn't take up much. I've never been able to peg all 4 virtual processors... Granted, if I hosted multiple games at once you could probably do it.
I must say, my Dual Xeon kinda sux for gaming compared to my A64 based system. Or rather, I saw no gain/difference. Its all in the video card for the most part. Oh and hosting single games doesn't take up much. I've never been able to peg all 4 virtual processors... Granted, if I hosted multiple games at once you could probably do it.
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And for the record, I have a dual Xeon 2.66GHz machine that I built, with 6 disk RAID 5, 2 disk RAID 0, 2GB RAM, etc. It functions as a gaming machine right now, because I have a 6800 GT OC in there. But I want to do rendering with it, in which case I'll change it over to a PNY Quadro FX card.
There is little to no need for 6GB RAM. Yes, there are exceptions, but they are few and far between. Even 4GB is excessive to some end.
Also, you should be aware of another aspect. Building a machine like that is great when it's new, but you don't upgrade servers as often as you do normal machines. So you will be stuck with this for a long time. And upgrade a server is 4X as expensive as upgrading a normal machine. And the cost of a full change-out (mobo, RAM, CPUs, etc) is about twice that of a normal decent gaming machine... My advice is find out what your needs our, and then get machines for that purpose. Because you don't want to get locked in an upgrade path later on. If you need a server, cool. But use it for server duty only, and build a seperate machine for dual video cards, etc. That way it will be easier to upgrade later on.
There is little to no need for 6GB RAM. Yes, there are exceptions, but they are few and far between. Even 4GB is excessive to some end.
Also, you should be aware of another aspect. Building a machine like that is great when it's new, but you don't upgrade servers as often as you do normal machines. So you will be stuck with this for a long time. And upgrade a server is 4X as expensive as upgrading a normal machine. And the cost of a full change-out (mobo, RAM, CPUs, etc) is about twice that of a normal decent gaming machine... My advice is find out what your needs our, and then get machines for that purpose. Because you don't want to get locked in an upgrade path later on. If you need a server, cool. But use it for server duty only, and build a seperate machine for dual video cards, etc. That way it will be easier to upgrade later on.
I'd like to know where your purchasing these dual core 3.8 xeons, the only dual core xeons out right now are 2.8 ghz.
If you really want a dual xeon box atleast wait a month for dempsey and then you'll have a box that is upgrade ready for woodcrest. Plus it'll outperform the current xeon's by a good margin.
The best dual dual core box you could buy/build at this current point in time would be a 285 opteron box. It all depends on how much money you want to spend.
If you really want a dual xeon box atleast wait a month for dempsey and then you'll have a box that is upgrade ready for woodcrest. Plus it'll outperform the current xeon's by a good margin.
The best dual dual core box you could buy/build at this current point in time would be a 285 opteron box. It all depends on how much money you want to spend.
> just got a new job and gonna get paid hella good.
Pay off any CC debt
Open an INGDirect or Emigrant savings account and put a couple of month's worth of expenses in it. Max out your 401K at work.
Then build _2_ boxes, a server and a gaming desktop.
On the server you'll need storage for pr0 . . . linux distros and one reasonably powerful dual-core CPU. Depending on what you're running, 1-2 GB of RAM is plenty.
For the desktop, a dual-core AMD or wait for intel's Conroe. 2 GB of RAM and SLI 7900GTX if a few extra FPS are worth an extra $500.
Don't forget to put $4,000 for 2006 into a Roth IRA at vanguard.com (VFINX is a good fund). Every year you do this now could let you retire a year earlier later.
FYI, I can afford your dream rig too, but it's such a waste of money that my new gaming rig I'm building this month is just an A64 X2 4200+, 2GB and a single 7900GTX. The other $2,000 went off to my brokerage account where it will grow 10% a year instead of losing half its value in a few months.
Pay off any CC debt
Open an INGDirect or Emigrant savings account and put a couple of month's worth of expenses in it. Max out your 401K at work.
Then build _2_ boxes, a server and a gaming desktop.
On the server you'll need storage for pr0 . . . linux distros and one reasonably powerful dual-core CPU. Depending on what you're running, 1-2 GB of RAM is plenty.
For the desktop, a dual-core AMD or wait for intel's Conroe. 2 GB of RAM and SLI 7900GTX if a few extra FPS are worth an extra $500.
Don't forget to put $4,000 for 2006 into a Roth IRA at vanguard.com (VFINX is a good fund). Every year you do this now could let you retire a year earlier later.
FYI, I can afford your dream rig too, but it's such a waste of money that my new gaming rig I'm building this month is just an A64 X2 4200+, 2GB and a single 7900GTX. The other $2,000 went off to my brokerage account where it will grow 10% a year instead of losing half its value in a few months.
umm, just on thing. i don't think that there is (nor will there ever be) a motherboard for Xeon CPU's that has two PCI-Express x16 lanes. i don't see how you are planning on running SLI on that thing unless you are using some adapter of some sort. And another thing: 6GB is way too much. unless you are using a 64bit OS, that maximum you can use of that is about half. And even then there aren't many apps today that fully utilize 2GB of ram. And why a Xeon? you can get a machine with a good old Opty (which are better, cheaper, and consume much less electricity) and then you can get your dual video cards you want.
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X uses a client-server model: an X server communicates with various client programs. The server accepts requests for graphical output (windows) and sends back user input (from keyboard, mouse, or touchscreen). The server may function as any one of:
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There are a couple of Xeon SLI boards out there
The highest dual core Xeon I have seen has been a 3.0 and those are like 4 grand a pop
and a complete waste of money
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