Dual Opteron 6272 on Supermicro H8DGI - need help to fix a problem

[ivant]

Hello,

I been reading on video rendering and it seems Opteron is pretty much best bang for the buck. Here is my problem.

This is not in any way a new configuration, I see many websites even sell the same configuration PCs.

CPU - Dual Opteron 6272
Motherboard - Supermicro H8DGI (latest BIOS rev C, also tried with previous versions)
Video - Quadro 600 (latest drivers, also tested with ATI and other Nvidia cards)
Software - Windows 7 PRO 64 bit

The problem:

With 2 Opteron 6272 installed - Windows Experience Index cannot complete windows media encoding process and finishes with errors.
With 2 Opteron 6128 installed - Windows Experience Index completes without any error.
With 2 Opteron 6272 installed in 4-core mode (total 16 cores, BIOS setting) - Windows Experience Index completes without any error.

It seems that Windows Experience Index crashes only when more then 16 cores used. I really doubt that all these websites selling same motherboard/CPU configuration have their Windows Experience Index not working

Supermicro and Microsoft support don't know how to fix it.

Could anyone point me to right direction with this one?

Thanks in advance!

I will add winsat log below:

068422 (3732) - winsat\logging.cpp:0815: --- START 2012\4\13 14:58:58 ---
068422 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:4301: Command Line = "C:\Windows\system32\winsat.exe" formal -cancelevent cc21b00d-1393-4912-b8b0-a2926183f624
068422 (3732) - winsat\processwinsaterror.cpp:0095: ERROR: tried to read resource strings, unknown exception occured
068437 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:4474: > IsFormal=TRUE IsMoobe=FALSE.
068484 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:4585: Watch dog system enabled
068484 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:4600: Main watch dog timer set to 600.0 seconds
068749 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:2490: > DWM Running.
068905 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:2497: > turning off DWM.
069264 (3732) - winsat\syspowertools.cpp:0983: > Read the active power scheme as '8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c'
069264 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:2793: > power policy saved.
069280 (3732) - winsat\syspowertools.cpp:1015: > Set the active power scheme to 8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c'
069280 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:2814: > power policy set to maximum.
070309 (3732) - winsat\logging.cpp:1763: ERROR: pahse enter/leave imballance
070309 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:0948: > IsOfficial=TRUE IsFormal=TRUE IsMoobe=FALSE RanOverTs=FALSE RanOnbatteries=FALSE
070309 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment features
070403 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment dwm -aname DWM -time 10 -fbc 10 -disp off -normalw 12 -width 1280 -height 1024 -winwidth C(1144) -winheight C(915) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -nolock
083647 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:4018: > Wrote video memory bandwidth to the registry 9375760
083647 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:2037: > DWM Assessment results processing SUCCESS
083647 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)
089903 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)
096096 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3
102757 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3
109231 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10 -aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)
116891 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10 -aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)
123069 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10 -aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3
129730 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10 -aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3
136266 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10 -aname GeomF4 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 150;200;241 -batchcnt C(50);C(200);C(300) -objs C(12);C(26);C(45) -noalpha -geomf4shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1
145080 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10 -aname GeomV8 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75;100;120 -batchcnt C(25);C(100);C(150) -objs C(8);C(17);C(29) -noalpha -geomv8shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1
153208 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment d3d -dx10 -aname CBuffer -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75 -batchcnt C(25) -objs C(8) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1) -cbuffershader -cbufa 2 -cbuff 5 -cbufp 6
159089 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment mfmedia -input C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\winsat.wmv -nopmp
161336 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment mediaex -input C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\Clip_1080_5sec_MPEG2_HD_15mbps.mpg -dshow -video offscreen -audio mute -width 100%m -height 100%m -constrain -savereg -autoprofname -expfrmmin 270 -expfrmmax 300 -overrideframetype int2fps
168387 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment mediaex -input C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\Clip_1080_5sec_VC1_15mbps.wmv -video offscreen -audio mute -width 100%m -height 100%m -constrain -savereg -autoprofname -expfrmmin 135 -expfrmmax 150 -overrideframetype prog
174689 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment mediaex -input C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\Clip_480i_5sec_6mbps_new.mpg -dshow -video offscreen -audio mute -width 100%m -height 100%m -constrain -savereg -autoprofname -expfrmmin 270 -expfrmmax 300 -overrideframetype int2fps
181413 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment mediaex -input C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\Clip_480p_5sec_6mbps_new.mpg -dshow -video offscreen -audio mute -width 100%m -height 100%m -constrain -savereg -autoprofname -expfrmmin 135 -expfrmmax 150 -overrideframetype prog
187996 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment mediaex -input C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\Clip_1080_5sec_10mbps_h264.mp4 -video offscreen -audio mute -width 100%m -height 100%m -constrain -savereg -autoprofname -expfrmmin 135 -expfrmmax 150 -overrideframetype prog
194470 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment mediaex -input C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\Clip_480_5sec_6mbps_h264.mp4 -video offscreen -audio mute -width 100%m -height 100%m -constrain -savereg -autoprofname -expfrmmin 270 -expfrmmax 300 -overrideframetype int2fps
200710 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment media -input C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\winsatencode.wmv -encode C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\winsat.prx
205063 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment moobego
205063 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment cpu -encryption -up
208214 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment cpu -compression -up
218292 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment cpu -encryption2 -up
221365 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment cpu -compression2 -up
231458 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment cpu -encryption
234921 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment cpu -compression
245420 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment cpu -encryption2
248899 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:1775: > Run Assessment cpu -compression2
259398 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:4018: > Wrote video memory bandwidth to the registry 9375760
259445 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:0962: > Wrote cpu expression compression score to the registry 116
259445 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:1253: Skipping StdDefPlayback limit check.
259445 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:1265: Skipping StdDefPlayback limit check.
259445 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:1480: > Wrote disk score to the registry 0
259460 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:0948: > IsOfficial=TRUE IsFormal=TRUE IsMoobe=FALSE RanOverTs=FALSE RanOnbatteries=FALSE
259585 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:4018: > Wrote video memory bandwidth to the registry 9375760
259585 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:0962: > Wrote cpu expression compression score to the registry 116
259585 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:1004: Total physical mem available to the OS : 15,9 ?? (17 177 882 624 bytes)
259585 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:1253: Skipping StdDefPlayback limit check.
259585 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:1265: Skipping StdDefPlayback limit check.
259585 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:1480: > Wrote disk score to the registry 790
259585 (3732) - winsat\processresults.cpp:1498: > Wrote random read disk score to the registry 211650
259757 (3732) - winsat\syspowertools.cpp:1015: > Set the active power scheme to 8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c'
259757 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:2855: > Power state restored.
259757 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:2873: > Not necessary to reenable EMD cache.
259757 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:2896: > Composition restarted
259772 (3732) - winsat\watchdog.cpp:0311: Watch dog system shutdown
259772 (3732) - winsat\main.cpp:4909: > exit value = 0.

 

[blckgrffn]

Hmm, seems like you are well within the supported range of Win 7 Pro x64...

http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/970c999c-8ffc-4611-968c-7d0ceffbedd4/

Any chance you could throw down a fresh windows install on another HD to see if there is something up with Windows - or a driver you have installed?

 

[ivant]

can't be a driver issue, as Windows Experience Index crashes on 16+ cores every time and does not with 16 or below.

I have reinstalled the system multiple times and tried different videocards from different vendors. The error is same all the time.

 

[brownstone]

What memory are you using?

 

[andy2000]

I've noticed the same problem with my dual 6172 system. It seems WEI won't complete with more than 16 total cores. Even with all 24 cores enabled, I can make it complete WEI by setting the processor affinity in the task manager for the WEI process to 16 or fewer cores.

After doing a lot of digging, and checking the log located in windows\performance\winstat I found that it was crashing when testing h.264 playback. None of the h.264 clips located in the winstat folder will play in WMP, or Media center (unless I set the affinity for 16 or fewer cores). They play fine in VLC with all 24 cores.

I'm using Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit, and it's rock solid apart from this, so I think it's a bug with Windows. I've been surprised that no one else has mentioned it. Does anyone have an Intel system with more than 16 cores that they can try it on?

 

[ivant]

What memory are you using?

Kingston ECC REG, compatible with motherboard. KVR1333D3D4R9S/8G

 

[sm625]

so I think it's a bug with Windows. I've been surprised that no one else has mentioned it. Does anyone have an Intel system with more than 16 cores that they can try it on?

I'm not surprised at all. Who has more than 16 cores? lol. You can really only get more than 16 by going AMD (or spending a LOT of money), but who wants bobcat type performance from their cpu cores?

 

[Icecold]

I'm not surprised at all. Who has more than 16 cores? lol. You can really only get more than 16 by going AMD (or spending a LOT of money), but who wants bobcat type performance from their cpu cores?

If somebody is running a 24 core system their primary concern isn't single threaded performance and magny cours per core performance is a lot higher than bobcat. Magny cours beats intel in most performance for the money multi threaded tasks such as distributed computing, virtualization, etc.

Visit the distributed computing section for people that have more than 16 cores.