Dual core processors vs Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology - how do you compare different processor speeds?

[m61376]

I'm looking at the new Dell 9100, and trying to decide if the Dual Core processors are worth the added expense. The Pentium® 4 Processor 630 with HT Technology (3GHz, 800FSB) is $100 less than the Pentium® D Processor 820 with Dual Core Technology (2.80GHz, 800FSB) ; there is a $270 price difference to upgrade to the 3GHz dual core processor. How would a dual core 2.8 GHz compare to a single core 3GHz with HT?

 

[Vette73]

If you plan on keeping the system for a while and don;t like to upgrade, then go dual core now.
If you plan on upgrading in a year or so then get the cheapest P4 they have listed.


Of course if you want high performance then build it yourself as even a High end Dell can;t compete with a high end custom built system. Like a socket 939 AMD Athlon64 system that can go dual core A64 later

 

[stevty2889]

Well the differance will depend one what kinds of programs you are running. In most normal single threaded applications, the clock speed of the 3ghz will keep it ahead. In truely multithreaded apps, or for heavy multitasking, the dual core will have the advantage.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: m61376
I'm looking at the new Dell 9100, and trying to decide if the Dual Core processors are worth the added expense. The Pentium® 4 Processor 630 with HT Technology (3GHz, 800FSB) is $100 less than the Pentium® D Processor 820 with Dual Core Technology (2.80GHz, 800FSB) ; there is a $270 price difference to upgrade to the 3GHz dual core processor. How would a dual core 2.8 GHz compare to a single core 3GHz with HT?

Dell is a nice and easy option for chepo intels, not nocking them just saying..

What are you requirements from a PC? .. becasue building your own might be a better scenario

 

[m61376]

building your own might be a better scenario

[/quote]

😱 of course that would assume the requisite skills...knowing my skill level, I think I would best wait for one of their good desktop deals.

 

[redhatlinux]

Building your own is NEVER a GOOD option, its a great way to learn quickly, but time also has a Value. Believe me, I'm older than dirt and can't even remember how many Pc's I've built.

I have consulted for AMD and support ALL of their efforts. Recently I needed a new System and Dell offered a great deal, Hyper threading system, only 2.8ghz, but with SATA 80 gig HD. Configured with a PCI Express Graphics Card, its a pretty speedy little ah heck.
Watching a DVD and burning Cd's without a glitch is great, that's what HT is all about. EVERY single time I see a question like this the answer is always the same, WHAT ARE YOU USING YOUR SYSTEM FOR ??.

FORGET the FUTURE, REALITY IS TODAY.... RIGHT NOW !!

Upgrading ANY System can be very cost prohibitive considering how fast Technology changes.

BTW WALMART is Selling AMD SEPERON Systems this Weekend for less than $600 Complete with Speakers And Monitor,
I believe the Speed to be 3000+ .....

 

[RichUK]

no problem with dells if you dont want to build your own PC .. i can't confirm but i think the dual core Intels without HT run better

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: redhatlinux
Building your own is NEVER a GOOD option, its a great way to learn quickly, but time also has a Value. Believe me, I'm older than dirt and can't even remember how many Pc's I've built.

I have consulted for AMD and support ALL of their efforts. Recently I needed a new System and Dell offered a great deal, Hyper threading system, only 2.8ghz, but with SATA 80 gig HD. Configured with a PCI Express Graphics Card, its a pretty speedy little ah heck.
Watching a DVD and burning Cd's without a glitch is great, that's what HT is all about. EVERY single time I see a question like this the answer is always the same, WHAT ARE YOU USING YOUR SYSTEM FOR ??.

FORGET the FUTURE, REALITY IS TODAY.... RIGHT NOW !!

Upgrading ANY System can be very cost prohibitive considering how fast Technology changes.

BTW WALMART is Selling AMD SEPERON Systems this Weekend for less than $600 Complete with Speakers And Monitor,
I believe the Speed to be 3000+ .....

i live in the uk but have a good grasp of american prices, i would say that is a pretty good damn deal 😉

 

[Icopoli]

Not sure of which currency is in use over there:

600.00 USD United States Dollars = 479.797 EUR Euro

600.00 USD United States Dollars = 329.760 GBP United Kingdom Pounds

 

[ssvegeta1010]

Go Dual-Core now. It is quite a bit better at multi-tasking and general use than an HT processor.

If you would like to find something to use your new computer for, then visit the distributed computing forums, and see about installing a program to help our community and world. Many of them are able to fully use your dual processors. [/shameless plug]

 

[etwakko1]

m61376, where did you see the pentium d processor for sale ? i was looking for this ... i posted a similar thread cause i wanted this processor for the smae setup that dell did but i couldnt find the thing so i bought a cheaper p4 instead in the hopes if finding the pentium d afterwrds and pgrading ... i use a Gigabyte GA-8AENXP-D Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard if anyone cares so i was also wondering if there wold be compatability issues with taht board and the dual core processor that i want ... i hardly get to get on the internet when we are at sea so an email reply wold be greatly appreciated : sarmienj@harpers-ferry.navy.mil

thanks in advance

 

[Cheesetogo]

Originally posted by: etwakko1
m61376, where did you see the pentium d processor for sale ? i was looking for this ... i posted a similar thread cause i wanted this processor for the smae setup that dell did but i couldnt find the thing so i bought a cheaper p4 instead in the hopes if finding the pentium d afterwrds and pgrading ... i use a Gigabyte GA-8AENXP-D Intel Socket 775 ATX Motherboard if anyone cares so i was also wondering if there wold be compatability issues with taht board and the dual core processor that i want ... i hardly get to get on the internet when we are at sea so an email reply wold be greatly appreciated : sarmienj@harpers-ferry.navy.mil

thanks in advance

I belive that the dual cores require a different chipset - 945 and 955, so you would have to buy a new motherboard.

 

[imported_whatever]

Originally posted by: redhatlinux
BTW WALMART is Selling AMD SEPERON Systems this Weekend for less than $600 Complete with Speakers And Monitor,
I believe the Speed to be 3000+ .....

BB usually sells an eMachines Celeron D for <$350, so although that might be cheap, it isnt that cheap. And yes, the emachines comes with a 17" flat CRT, printer, and speakers.

 

[Aenslead]

Originally posted by: m61376
building your own might be a better scenario

😱 of course that would assume the requisite skills...knowing my skill level, I think I would best wait for one of their good desktop deals.[/quote]

You could do a search on MechBagon's first time build guide. Its as easy as it gets, and its fun. The only real requisite is that you actually WANT to learn.

 

[theMan]

its fine to go dell, but then you arent able to get EXACTLY what you want. you will have to compromise on some things. if you build. you can get exactly what you want, and at a good price. also, if you build, you can get a good quality amd system, which will outdo intel in most things, not to mention power consumption, which is a huge problem with the pentium d. i would just read up, and build, if you have the time and patients. its really fun!