Don't know if it's that hot, but they're out and this would make a nice NAS/File Server. I think I'm going to bite.
Anybody have an performance numbers? Dual Atom Goodness
Dual-Core Intel Atom 330 1.6GHz Mini-ITX Motherboard D945GCLF2 Retail - $90.59 shipped
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Don't know if it's that hot, but they're out and this would make a nice NAS/File Server. I think I'm going to bite.
Anybody have an performance numbers? Dual Atom Goodness
Integrated cpu. Interesting. What cases would you use for mini-ITX motherboards? Anything unusual about the mini-ITX standard?
Fayd
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i dunno..a mini-itx case?
nothing unusual about it other than it's really small. still an x86 architecture proc, accepts standard ram and PCI card...
Good point. But for setting up a low power always on PC/server, I was considering putting in an atx case. The large size takes away much of the allure, but I already have old atx cases around.
The application I want to use it in is a custom 50s model AM radio, gutted with this and a 1TB hard drive in it, as a backup/NAS device.
Good find mcmilljb!
Good find mcmilljb!
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Picked one up this morning along with a DC to DC psu for a carputer from http://www.mini-box.com/site/index.html $138 shipped.
Or buy an X3 with motherboard at Fry's for around the same price... ITX without PCI-E makes case modding seem pointless. You spend money on a cute system that can't do much.
Look at the four mounting holes on a mini ITX motherboard. They line up perfectly with four of the holes on an ATX or MicroATX motherboard. The I/O shield for the back panel is also the same size. So any case that can hold an ATX or MicroATX motherboard can also hold a mini ITX motherboard.
If you need a low power processor, then the Atom 330 might be the right choice for you. It appears that Intel is not selling the Atom 330 separately, so if you want one, you have to buy the CPU/motherboard combo they're offering. (They call it a "package".) Looks like a decent deal to me.
If you're going to use a standard ATX or MicroATX case, then low power consumption is the only advantage in using an Atom 330. If power consumption is not the most important factor to you, then there are other alternatives for about the same price. For example, the single-core Celeron 4xx series (rated at 35W) costs less than the list price for an Atom 330. The dual-core Athlon BE-2xxx series (rated at 45W) can be found for about the same price. And there are plenty of high-quality MicroATX motherboards on the market for less than $50-60. You just have to decide what you want--very low power consumption (and the chance to use a very small mini-ITX case), or more flexibility and better performance.
You're assuming that a systems functionality revolves around a video card? Because not every application requires a PCI-E slot or the accompanying GPU.
Look at $500 NAS devices for example. People are spending considerable money for (in essence) a little system that "can't do much." But it does everything they need it to. Same thing as the dual-core Atom. I'm no Atom fanboy, but a "cute" system that offers backup potential, web-browsing, spreadsheets, report writing, and other useful tasks could be well suited for many people.
By the way, you said "ITX" - you wouldn't be thinking of "ATX" would you? If so, I completely agree with you about the PCI-E necessity. To my knowledge, there is no ITX standard, only Mini-, Nano-, and Pico-ITX standards. While Mini-ITX boards with PCI-E x16 slots exist, they are usually crazy expensive; latest chipsets for quads and the like can run close to $400 if you can even find one.
I saw this little box. The reviewer complains about the noise though. http://www.amazon.com/4BAY-Des...2V-Mitx/dp/B000WCQYU6/
Those small cases usually have a specific psu meant just for it. I'm sure with small cases it's really hard to find a good combination of low noise and plenty of power in a psu.
Originally posted by: Engineer
Great power useage on the Atom at 8 watts but the problem is that the Intel chipset on the board is still up to 25 watts. That really needs to be lowered!
Where in the heck is the Paulsbo chipset???
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Mini ITX motherboards will fit in Micro ATX cases.
Here are some Mini-ITX cases at Newegg.
I just built a Microsoft Windows Home Server using the MSI Wind barebones, which uses an MSI version of an Atom-based motherboard and comes in a suitable tiny and quiet case. It comes with a 60 Watt power supply (separate brick with very long cables) and draws 30 Watts with a hard drive installed.
Newegg was selling Intel's Atom-based Mini-ITX motherboard, but, all of a sudden, Newegg isn't selling that OR ANY OTHER INTEL-built MOTHERBOARD. Weird. The formerly-sold Intel Atom motherboard was $79.
Here are some Mini-ITX cases at Newegg.
I just built a Microsoft Windows Home Server using the MSI Wind barebones, which uses an MSI version of an Atom-based motherboard and comes in a suitable tiny and quiet case. It comes with a 60 Watt power supply (separate brick with very long cables) and draws 30 Watts with a hard drive installed.
Newegg was selling Intel's Atom-based Mini-ITX motherboard, but, all of a sudden, Newegg isn't selling that OR ANY OTHER INTEL-built MOTHERBOARD. Weird. The formerly-sold Intel Atom motherboard was $79.
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http://computing.in.msn.com/ar...=1619830&wa=wsignin1.0
Atom vs. Athlon -- AMD Wins!
`Tom?s Hardware? found that the 1GHz Athlon 64 2000+, with its 8 watt power draw, bests the 1.6GHz Atom 230 -- both in terms of performance and energy consumed
so..no..not that hot.
Atom vs. Athlon -- AMD Wins!
`Tom?s Hardware? found that the 1GHz Athlon 64 2000+, with its 8 watt power draw, bests the 1.6GHz Atom 230 -- both in terms of performance and energy consumed
so..no..not that hot.
problem is that's a single core Atom 230 @ 4w vs. that A64 2000+ @ 8w...
this is a dual core Atom 330 @ 8w...
0roo0roo
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http://www.tomshardware.com/re...Efficient,1981-18.html
Results: Atom Is Not Suitable As An Office PC
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...on-Efficient,1997.html
Conclusion: Athlon 64 Is More Economical, Faster, And Quieter
Results: Atom Is Not Suitable As An Office PC
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...on-Efficient,1997.html
Conclusion: Athlon 64 Is More Economical, Faster, And Quieter
You're missing the point though. Even with the 8W, the AMD system's total power draw is less than the Intel system's total power draw. Since the AMD performs better too, it makes the system performance per watt much better. Maybe if AMD can turn out some miniITX boards and some dual-core processors, while Intel works on the chipset, we could see some interesting very low power systems in small form factors.
How dies the AMD offering of the Geode NX do for you? It's built on the Socket A chipset, low power and fast than some of the other offerings. I'm currently using one with Server 08....Yes it would be nice if it was dual core.
Hope you haven't been waiting to long pic
JetWay J7F5M2G-VDE-PB VIA CX700M
Originally posted by: Kaido
Dude, that's a VIA chip. That is NOT a dual-core Atom.
Dual-Core Atom with DVI onboard plz kthx
you didn't mention that part beforehand though.
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