Dual Core FX- 53/55/57/59?

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
6
81
I am wondering if AMD has any plans on releaseing a Dual Core FX version with the extra cache enabled. or will it be just two winchester cores with the usual 512k on board? I would love to see such an animal and would seriously consider adopting one. 2 fx55 are better than one!
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
6
81
Not for gaming? Last time I checked (march,april or may?) when doom3 was still in development Carmack said he would support multi-threading for the game. XEON owners rejoice!
 

Mik3y

Banned
Mar 2, 2004
7,089
0
0
the dual-cored fx will be based on socket 900 and will start wtih the fx-57 or fx-59. and yes, gaming will be fine.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
6
81
Ummm...... socket 900? are you sure. no such thing exists. and that would definitly be a step backward as far as socket technology is concerned.
Currently we are running 940 and 939 for winchester/newcastle. where did socket 900 come from?
 

Mik3y

Banned
Mar 2, 2004
7,089
0
0
socket 939 didnt exist a yr ago. does it now? yes. just because there are less pins doesnt mean it's a step backwards. new sockets are created as newer technology comes around. 939 wasnt created for dual core, though it can adapt to it with a simple bios flash. i believe socket 900 will be the new standard for dual core and multi-processor boards for amd. 940 is extremely old and it's almost got no life left.
 

Zebo

Elite Member
Jul 29, 2001
39,398
19
81
Originally posted by: Googer
Ummm...... socket 900? are you sure. no such thing exists. and that would definitly be a step backward as far as socket technology is concerned.
Currently we are running 940 and 939 for winchester/newcastle. where did socket 900 come from?

Have to change socket everytime you change mem controller which is why anyone who thinks any AMD socket has a future is being ridiculus. AMD 64 Mobos have about as much future as your next upgrade +/- 500Mhz.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
6
81
I have never heard of socket 900 where did that come from? AMD Removed one pin to make the two processors incompatable with workstarion boards, so that a different (usualy a higher) price could be charged to enterprise users. Fact: The one pin that was removed is considerd to be redundant (nonfunctional for future use) .

The reason for the extra pins on the 940/939 (vs. 754) is that they are used by the second channel of the CPU's memory controller and that is why they have an extra 185 or 186 extra pins. Its the Truth. So using the socket 900 would be a step backward if both "cores" were to have independent memory controllers on the same socket. So using that math if both cores were to have their own memory controllers the sockets would most likely have 1,124 pins. And would require 4 dimms to operate in Dual Channel mode (2 for each core/mem controller)

My best understanding at this moment is that Dual core for the desktop will be Socket 939 with a shared memory controller.
But that still does not answer the original question of will the cores be of the FX varient or will they only be standard A64 Cores doubbled togheter?
 

Mik3y

Banned
Mar 2, 2004
7,089
0
0
just because you havent heard of socket 900 doesnt meant it's BS or a step backwards. it's a thing called NEW technology. no one really knows what you're asking yet. it's all kept secret.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
6
81
Socket 900 just does not seem logical. It is just a rumor at this time and I dont think it is likely to become reality; but still remains a possibilty

higher pin counts are not always better.


My questen was will there be any dual core versions of the AMD FX chips that are currently for sale?
or will it be only 2 standard A64 cores
 

Mik3y

Banned
Mar 2, 2004
7,089
0
0
Originally posted by: Googer
Socket 900 just does not seem logical. It is just a rumor and I dont think it is likely to become reality.

higher pin counts are not always better.


My questen was will there be any dual core versions of the AMD FX chips that are currently for sale?
or will it be only 2 standard A64 cores

yes, they will make the fx dual cored, and in socket 900 and you can believe it or not.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
6
81
?We cannot really comment on how long the transition will take but AMD has felt all along that dual-core is inevitable, which is why AMD64 architecture was built from the ground-up to be a natural extension of our Direct Connect Architecture,? Mr. Hughes explained.

As expected, AMD said its new central processing units with two processing engines will be compatible with current ? Socket 940 and Socket 939 ? infrastructures, and may also gain support for DDR2 memory.

quote taken from xbitlabs.com

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/c...ay/20040614175718.html