Dual core 1.5ghz by q4

jpeyton

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Coming to an Android handset near you.
 

AMDZen

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I don't get why people will get siked for this. I see all this touting of the dual core as well. At 1.5 ghz, how much drain increase will you see? Other then the Droid X, the 1 Ghz snapdragon today is too much for the batteries on Android phones, why would I need 1.5 ghz to affectively cut my battery life 1/3 again from what it is now. My friend clocked his EVO up to 1.2 Ghz and it lasted 2 hrs. I don't expect this to be the case since that was OC'ing, but how much bigger will you have to make the battery - and thus the phone to try and make up for the added battery drain?

Battery technology needs to catch up first. 1 Ghz is plenty
 

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I don't get why people will get siked for this. I see all this touting of the dual core as well. At 1.5 ghz, how much drain increase will you see? Other then the Droid X, the 1 Ghz snapdragon today is too much for the batteries on Android phones, why would I need 1.5 ghz to affectively cut my battery life 1/3 again from what it is now. My friend clocked his EVO up to 1.2 Ghz and it lasted 2 hrs. I don't expect this to be the case since that was OC'ing, but how much bigger will you have to make the battery - and thus the phone to try and make up for the added battery drain?

Battery technology needs to catch up first. 1 Ghz is plenty

The current Snapdragons are made on 65nm process. This new one will be on 45nm, same as the TI's OMAPs used in Droid X as well as the Samsung Hummingbird. New process, more battery life.
 

AMDZen

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The current Snapdragons are made on 65nm process. This new one will be on 45nm, same as the TI's OMAPs used in Droid X as well as the Samsung Hummingbird. New process, more battery life.

Hold on though, as you said the Droid X was on the 45nm process. So, you compare the EVO that has horrible battery, to the Droid X and you see the difference - noticably. But now we are going from 1 ghz to 1.5, so basically the affects will be negated by the 1/3 increase in clock speed - and battery life will suffer. It might end up with battery life around that of the EVO once again.
 

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Hold on though, as you said the Droid X was on the 45nm process. So, you compare the EVO that has horrible battery, to the Droid X and you see the difference - noticably. But now we are going from 1 ghz to 1.5, so basically the affects will be negated by the 1/3 increase in clock speed - and battery life will suffer. It might end up with battery life around that of the EVO once again.

If people weren' so obsessed with having a phone <10mm thick they could put bigger batteries in them right now. My old Palm Treo 750 has something like a 1900mAh battery stock. Compare that to my HD2's 1230. While I agree that battery technology needs to improve, I think the fact that we have phones that are much more powerful with much larger screens and considerably smaller batteries, and they are still usable for a day (pending usage and phone model of course) is pretty impressive.
 

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Hold on though, as you said the Droid X was on the 45nm process. So, you compare the EVO that has horrible battery, to the Droid X and you see the difference - noticably. But now we are going from 1 ghz to 1.5, so basically the affects will be negated by the 1/3 increase in clock speed - and battery life will suffer. It might end up with battery life around that of the EVO once again.

Well Motorola announced they would launch a 2Ghz phone (probably single core) also by the end of this year.
 

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I don't get why people will get siked for this. I see all this touting of the dual core as well. At 1.5 ghz, how much drain increase will you see? Other then the Droid X, the 1 Ghz snapdragon today is too much for the batteries on Android phones, why would I need 1.5 ghz to affectively cut my battery life 1/3 again from what it is now. My friend clocked his EVO up to 1.2 Ghz and it lasted 2 hrs. I don't expect this to be the case since that was OC'ing, but how much bigger will you have to make the battery - and thus the phone to try and make up for the added battery drain?

Battery technology needs to catch up first. 1 Ghz is plenty

Die shrink, new architecture

Well Motorola announced they would launch a 2Ghz phone (probably single core) also by the end of this year.

Motorola said they "wish" to release a 2ghz. In other words take it with a grain of salt. I would believe it more if qualcom, said this themselves
 
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Deeko

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Motorola said they "wish" to release a 2ghz. In other words take it with a grain of salt. I would believe it more if qualcom, said this themselves

In the case of Motorola, I'd believe it more if TI said it ;)
 

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Hold on though, as you said the Droid X was on the 45nm process. So, you compare the EVO that has horrible battery, to the Droid X and you see the difference - noticably. But now we are going from 1 ghz to 1.5, so basically the affects will be negated by the 1/3 increase in clock speed - and battery life will suffer. It might end up with battery life around that of the EVO once again.

Also, this QSD8672 Snapdragon is based on Cortex A9 architecture. According to wiki, The new A9 based cores are 25% more capable per core compared to the current A8 based Snapdragons, OMAPs, Hummingbirds and Apple's A4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_cores

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Freshgeardude

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please let a phone based on this come to tmobile, thanks.


get with the program. T mobile was slow to roll out full 3g coverage, is pooping up 4g by trying to stay at a high speed 3g and is in 4th place on the industry.

why would any company want to bring a flashy new top of the line phone to them?
 

Deeko

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get with the program. T mobile was slow to roll out full 3g coverage, is pooping up 4g by trying to stay at a high speed 3g and is in 4th place on the industry.

why would any company want to bring a flashy new top of the line phone to them?

G1, Nexus One, HD2, Vibrant.....I'd say T-Mobile has actually done pretty well with high end phones.