Dual Booting win xp and 98se

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Hi

I just got windows xp and somewhere I read I should keep windows 98se on one of my partions because xp still don't have support for a lot of the old games and 98se is a better gaming O.S

does anyone else agree?

also

I have partioned my drives into 5 drives and I have win 98se on its own drive(c). I was wondering if I wanted to do a clean install of 98se and formated my C: Drive don't I have to install all my other programs. Ie games, MS office etc.... that is installed on other drives because, my registry and information will no longer be in control panel's add/remove hardware utility?


Thanks in advance for any response
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Sure . . . I dual boot 98SE with Win2K. The 98 Partition for gaming requires less RAM and works better for older games.

Other than the higher RAM requirements, XP is probably better for newer games.

I only keep games on the 98 Partition. . . . Generally, when I reformat one partition, the others are unaffected.
 

theNEOone

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Just stick w/ WinXP. It'll work just fine. I run mostly new games, and WinXP performs great. What I used to do for older games is create a second login name where I'd disable all the flashy graphics and have only the minimum number of programs boot - basically reverting to the classic style windows w/ only the essential system files. This does a great job of increasing performance. Not to mention that changing login names is much better than switching operating systems.
 

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
Just stick w/ WinXP. It'll work just fine. I run mostly new games, and WinXP performs great. What I used to do for older games is create a second login name where I'd disable all the flashy graphics and have only the minimum number of programs boot - basically reverting to the classic style windows w/ only the essential system files. This does a great job of increasing performance. Not to mention that changing login names is much better than switching operating systems.
Some older games will simply not run in XP.

If that is the case, a dual-boot is non complicated and no big deal "switching" between O/Ss (unless you are that impatient to wait to reboot).
 

theNEOone

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out of curiousity, what games run in 98 that can't in XP? also consider that you can run programs under win98 compatibility mode in XP.

and yes, for some people it's a pain to reboot. for example, i have a raid array on my computer - the bios for the raid takes a very long time to run it's course. and it's not only a matter of waiting 2-3 minutes to reboot. it's also a matter of principle and redundancy. why run two operating systems, when one will do just fine?

i used to run win98SE/win2k dual boot. i will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever do that again after winXP.
 

Renob

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i used to run win98SE/win2k dual boot. i will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever do that again after winXP.


Word!!
 

0roo0roo

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98 is NOT a better gaming os. make sure to update xp to sp1 and all updates and you'll have a far better system.



i keep 98 on another partition as a backup os. if my xp keels over, my other partition will probably still work. i can copy long file names and tons of files/directories easily for backup purposes with win98 which will help restoring my system.


install 98 first for dual boot.

use ghost to make images.
 

theNEOone

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
98 is NOT a better gaming os. make sure to update xp to sp1 and all updates and you'll have a far better system.



i keep 98 on another partition as a backup os. if my xp keels over, my other partition will probably still work. i can copy long file names and tons of files/directories easily for backup purposes with win98 which will help restoring my system.


install 98 first for dual boot.

use ghost to make images.


yah, some people also double boot for a backup operating system. if you're gonna do this though, i don't see why you wouldn't use winXP as your backup also. well, to each his own. :D
 

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
out of curiousity, what games run in 98 that can't in XP? also consider that you can run programs under win98 compatibility mode in XP.

and yes, for some people it's a pain to reboot. for example, i have a raid array on my computer - the bios for the raid takes a very long time to run it's course. and it's not only a matter of waiting 2-3 minutes to reboot. it's also a matter of principle and redundancy. why run two operating systems, when one will do just fine?

i used to run win98SE/win2k dual boot. i will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever do that again after winXP.

From last Fall at THG
In addition, there are still many games coming out on the market that don't run properly on Windows XP. A good example of this is the U-Boot game "Silent Hunter II," which managed to crash the entire PC within a few minutes. At the time, the developer simply shrugged its shoulder at its own Internet support forums . . . .
98/ME users might ask if it is worth spending the money on XP and the additional RAM required for 2000/XP. This depends, above all, on how you plan to use the system. If you're only going to play games on it, then you can continue to use ME or 98SE. Most of the manufacturers no longer offer driver support for 98, but support for ME should still continue for a long time. All ME drivers work on 98 without a hitch (the naughty ones say that ME is only the retail version of a service pack for 98 SE...).
Some of us never had a problem with Win98SE. :p

That goodness that STUPID 60hz refresh rate FINALLY got fixed in Win2k/XP . . . I couldn't "take it" and was using 98SE UNTIL the Radeon 3.1 Cats. Now I am mostly gaming with Win2K (but there are much more compatability issues with it and older games than XP).
 

theNEOone

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I like how you decided to omit the opening paragraph to the conclusion....


The tests show that there's no reason today to use Windows 98/ME in a new system. In many of the benchmarks, XP and 2000 are ahead - albeit only by a small margin. The biggest advantage of 2000 and XP, however, is in the more modern architecture, which, thanks to the increased stability and safety from crashes, allows for a much more relaxed work environment - and, of course, increased demands on the hardware as well.
 

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
I like how you decided to omit the opening paragraph to the conclusion....


The tests show that there's no reason today to use Windows 98/ME in a new system. In many of the benchmarks, XP and 2000 are ahead - albeit only by a small margin. The biggest advantage of 2000 and XP, however, is in the more modern architecture, which, thanks to the increased stability and safety from crashes, allows for a much more relaxed work environment - and, of course, increased demands on the hardware as well.
Why not? . . . it was irevelant to my point, should I have quoted the whole article - however, I did post the link so you could point it out. :p

My point - in answer to YOUR direct question is: There ARE some older games that DON'T run well in XP and THAT IS a REASON for booting with 98SE also IF you play those games.

Just because YOU had problems with 98SE and Win2K doesn't mean the rest of us are incompetent.

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theNEOone

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whatevAr. you can go off track if you want but the issue here is that someone wants to know if he should dual boot 98se w/ XP. the answer is no.





Just because YOU had problems with 98SE and Win2K doesn't mean the rest of us are incompetent.
please try again.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
whatevAr. you can go off track if you want but the issue here is that someone wants to know if he should dual boot 98se w/ XP. the answer is no.





Just because YOU had problems with 98SE and Win2K doesn't mean the rest of us are incompetent.
please try again.
OK, you are the one that is off-track look at the original post:
Originally posted by: Key
Hi

I just got windows xp and somewhere I read I should keep windows 98se on one of my partions because xp still don't have support for a lot of the old games and 98se is a better gaming O.S

does anyone else agree?
The real answer is Yes, IF you play older games that do not run in XP (or do not run "well" in compatability mode).

No, 98SE is NOT a better gaming system (although it is makes more efficient use of RAM especially for older systems).

You can give up now.




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theNEOone

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ok, mr. 1998. 3 people and tomshardware say that there is no reason to use win98. you gave me ONE example of a game that didn't run on XP. and that was before a patch made it playable on XP. go home.
 

theNEOone

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Key, in the sake of putting this petty b.s. to rest, how about you list the games you play? From there we'll be able to tell you what choice is right.
 

Miramonti

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W98 is needed for some great DOS/abandonware games that can't run w/winxp because there's no dos. I wish I had done a dual boot w/98 before I installed xp so I could play some of them. I don't lose sleep over it but it would have been nice.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
ok, mr. 1998. 3 people and tomshardware say that there is no reason to use win98. you gave me ONE example of a game that didn't run on XP. and that was before a patch made it playable on XP. go home.
You must be way too young to know anything about DOS. :p

This quote is from THG - or do you also have major problems with with your attention span and comprehension?
In addition, there are still many games coming out on the market that don't run properly on Windows XP. A good example of this is the U-Boot game "SilentHunter II," which managed to crash the entire PC within a few minutes.

 

theNEOone

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those "new" games coming out have nothing to do w/ the operating system. how about when new vid cards don't work properly w/ some games when they first come out. is it that you should revert back to the "older" card because the new one is incompatible? no. just wait for the fvking drivers. go check silent hunter II now. there's a patch that allows it to run under winXP. it was the game, not the operating system.



and you're obviously like those old farts that don't accept new technology. today it's the operating system that you won't go for, tomorrow it's something else......
see ya later gramps.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
and you're obviously like those old farts that don't accept new technology. today it's the operating system that you won't go for, tomorrow it's something else......

see ya later gramps.
I sure hope not. ;)

Try OT . . . it's perfect for you.
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And I do run XP . . . it's just that I am not incompetant with older O/Ses.

 

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
update your quote.


oh, and your sig fits perfectly btw.
and you are another clueless one who doesn't understand it. :p

Maybe someone else can explain what "older games" and XP incompatability mean to you . . . I simply don't have patience with children.